M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

[sweetandcool]

IIRC wasn't he scum just last game and you were on board with his takes then?

So on board with his takes I scanned him N2 because I thought he was scum....

Do you townread me? Are you concerned that one of us is buddying the other?

I townread Vecna. You are just ever so slightly under null.

I would like to see you guys from the dream team, so I suppose that means I am not concerned with you buddying each other.

Is it even possible to buddy either of you? I suppose Vecna has felt fooled by me in the past, which is why he's seemed extra paranoid with me recently.

[Foxcastle]

There was more than an hour left.

Encouraging town to lump up and not have volatility is bad.

ESPECIALLY now we know one wagon was town, it's possible a scum player saying "OH! OH! Town should really get together and stop fighting! Look at me helping! Oh...and don't worry about the lead wagons being town..."

I disagree with this, mostly because I think you're trying to inject "lumping up" into what he was saying and I don't think that's justified. Sure, he said "consolidate," but I would interpret more as encouraging one-vote wagons to find something more useful to do.

Honestly, I kind of scum read you for this, Bunny.

Huh? Sounds like you are saying the same thing as Bunny.

Dip says, people need to move onto a few wagons.
Bunny says, that's scummy because it implies lumping up and lack of volatility
Fox says, it's not scummy because consolidating off of one-vote wagons is better and it's scummy to try to scumread Dip for this view.

[sweetandcool]

I disagree with this, mostly because I think you're trying to inject "lumping up" into what he was saying and I don't think that's justified. Sure, he said "consolidate," but I would interpret more as encouraging one-vote wagons to find something more useful to do.

Honestly, I kind of scum read you for this, Bunny.

Huh? Sounds like you are saying the same thing as Bunny.

Dip says, people need to move onto a few wagons.
Bunny says, that's scummy because it implies lumping up and lack of volatility
Fox says, it's not scummy because consolidating off of one-vote wagons is better and it's scummy to try to scumread Dip for this view.

Hmmm, I think the answer is that you are all correct, essentially.

[ghug]

So on board with his takes I scanned him N2 because I thought he was scum....

Do you townread me? Are you concerned that one of us is buddying the other?

I townread Vecna. You are just ever so slightly under null.

I would like to see you guys from the dream team, so I suppose that means I am not concerned with you buddying each other.

Is it even possible to buddy either of you? I suppose Vecna has felt fooled by me in the past, which is why he's seemed extra paranoid with me recently.

Everyone is buddiable.

[Foxcastle]

Huh? Sounds like you are saying the same thing as Bunny.

Dip says, people need to move onto a few wagons.
Bunny says, that's scummy because it implies lumping up and lack of volatility
Fox says, it's not scummy because consolidating off of one-vote wagons is better and it's scummy to try to scumread Dip for this view.

Hmmm, I think the answer is that you are all correct, essentially.

Maybe I'm misreading Bunny. I think Bunny is scumreading Dip for this. I think there could in theory be a difference of opinion on this without resorting to scum reads, which is why I don't like that Bunny is resorting to "this is scum motivated" rather than "this is wrongheaded." What are your thoughts on Bunny deciding to scumread Dip based on this?

[sweetandcool]

Dip says, people need to move onto a few wagons.
Bunny says, that's scummy because it implies lumping up and lack of volatility
Fox says, it's not scummy because consolidating off of one-vote wagons is better and it's scummy to try to scumread Dip for this view.

Hmmm, I think the answer is that you are all correct, essentially.

Maybe I'm misreading Bunny. I think Bunny is scumreading Dip for this. I think there could in theory be a difference of opinion on this without resorting to scum reads, which is why I don't like that Bunny is resorting to "this is scum motivated" rather than "this is wrongheaded." What are your thoughts on Bunny deciding to scumread Dip based on this?

I like Bunny as a solver, though frequently it takes them a while to get on track.

I don't like it, especially since confusingly Bunny started out implying Dip was confused Town and has now started indicating a straight up scumread.

I don't exactly believe the progression, so maybe Bunny is Mafia? I'm at the place where I'm too scared to scumread them properly until I make an actual case.

[Foxcastle]

Hmmm, I think the answer is that you are all correct, essentially.

Maybe I'm misreading Bunny. I think Bunny is scumreading Dip for this. I think there could in theory be a difference of opinion on this without resorting to scum reads, which is why I don't like that Bunny is resorting to "this is scum motivated" rather than "this is wrongheaded." What are your thoughts on Bunny deciding to scumread Dip based on this?

I like Bunny as a solver, though frequently it takes them a while to get on track.

I don't like it, especially since confusingly Bunny started out implying Dip was confused Town and has now started indicating a straight up scumread.

I don't exactly believe the progression, so maybe Bunny is Mafia? I'm at the place where I'm too scared to scumread them properly until I make an actual case.

Why would you be scared to scumread them?

[Bonatogether]

And Brian feels a bit more town here to me than usual.

There's a scumslip if I've ever read one!!!

Brian flips town, Kak can garner a bit of towniness for it.

Really, I appreciate the defense but I can't excuse my ADD/super-busy playstyle. That's for me to fix.

sheep sheep sheep!

[BunnyGo]

Why does this look bad? It was actually my sentiment even earlier than when Dip posted it.

There was more than an hour left.

Encouraging town to lump up and not have volatility is bad.

ESPECIALLY now we know one wagon was town, it's possible a scum player saying "OH! OH! Town should really get together and stop fighting! Look at me helping! Oh...and don't worry about the lead wagons being town..."

I disagree with this, mostly because I think you're trying to inject "lumping up" into what he was saying and I don't think that's justified. Sure, he said "consolidate," but I would interpret more as encouraging one-vote wagons to find something more useful to do.

Honestly, I kind of scum read you for this, Bunny.

<yawn>

Us Harpers speak truth, justice, and the Baldurian Gate's Way

Demon saying it like 3 posts later was scummy too.

And you disagreeing doesn't make it less so.

[Dousing]

I don't exactly believe the progression, so maybe Bunny is Mafia? I'm at the place where I'm too scared to scumread them properly until I make an actual case.

That’s a really good point actually. Scratch my suggestion about Sweet being easily sheeped etc etc.

[Bonatogether]

I am so pro town here it's spectacular

damo the goat

[BunnyGo]

Your answer to this question is the one I care about the least, unfortunately.

This is the town!flav I remember.

I have no memory of scum!flav to compare to.

It's really weird that you said this twice

did I? huh...

I typed it once, but then thought I didn't submit it because you didn't want to hear from me and I shouldn't interject.

Then you said you want to hear from others so I posted it.

[Foxcastle]

I think BunnyGo is unraveling. I think that the maf chat is quiet, and lacking anyone to talk to there, he has to find a way to vent his pent up scuminess to the main thread.

[Bonatogether]

i think there's so many posters that no one is managing to post anything coherent

[kingofthepirates]

Hello all, Kotp here. Unfortunately, due to circumstances outside of this game (schoolwork+mental health reasons), I am unable to continue playing, and have decided to withdraw. I have already messaged brain, and a sub should be coming in to take my spot. Very sorry to drop this so suddenly, but it’s for my own good. Good luck everyone, and have fun!

[sweetandcool]

Maybe I'm misreading Bunny. I think Bunny is scumreading Dip for this. I think there could in theory be a difference of opinion on this without resorting to scum reads, which is why I don't like that Bunny is resorting to "this is scum motivated" rather than "this is wrongheaded." What are your thoughts on Bunny deciding to scumread Dip based on this?

I like Bunny as a solver, though frequently it takes them a while to get on track.

I don't like it, especially since confusingly Bunny started out implying Dip was confused Town and has now started indicating a straight up scumread.

I don't exactly believe the progression, so maybe Bunny is Mafia? I'm at the place where I'm too scared to scumread them properly until I make an actual case.

Why would you be scared to scumread them?

Because if I am wrong then I am getting rid of a good solver. And I need good solvers or else I'm much more likely to be the DK at some point.

[Foxcastle]

Hello all, Kotp here. Unfortunately, due to circumstances outside of this game (schoolwork+mental health reasons), I am unable to continue playing, and have decided to withdraw. I have already messaged brain, and a sub should be coming in to take my spot. Very sorry to drop this so suddenly, but it’s for my own good. Good luck everyone, and have fun!

Sorry to see you go, take care of yourself.

[Bonatogether]

Where's ghug and Vecna telling us these wagons are stupid and leading us to the correct vote?

im not sure whether the damo / HB wagon are stupid.

They might be. But I do feel theres enough reason to be voting there.

Flum / D&W / Flavius would all be atrocious wagons imo.

I feel like you. None of the juicy stuff I want to actually kill it on the table.

I STRONGLY feel bona is not getting anywhere near enough pressure. slot has been completely vapid.

I wouldnt mind S&C being an option

I always applaud a Chaqa wagon, and he's been awfully quiet (probably so he can N1 me again as he always does before I get a read on him )

i'm opposed to vaping, idk what you mean

[BunnyGo]

Hmmm, I think the answer is that you are all correct, essentially.

Maybe I'm misreading Bunny. I think Bunny is scumreading Dip for this. I think there could in theory be a difference of opinion on this without resorting to scum reads, which is why I don't like that Bunny is resorting to "this is scum motivated" rather than "this is wrongheaded." What are your thoughts on Bunny deciding to scumread Dip based on this?

I like Bunny as a solver, though frequently it takes them a while to get on track.

I don't like it, especially since confusingly Bunny started out implying Dip was confused Town and has now started indicating a straight up scumread.

I don't exactly believe the progression, so maybe Bunny is Mafia? I'm at the place where I'm too scared to scumread them properly until I make an actual case.

You're reading/evaluating my posts out of order because of quoting and conversations in time delays.

I quoted a bunch of Dip stuff...said scummy posts.

Eventually decided...well...it's bad, but it's probably confused manic town rather than actual scum. Probably.

Then Fox yelled about my post and I defended it.

[Bonatogether]

Bona last game was a fucking powerhouse and completely destroyed our team. Now he's been completely coasting on being a little too funny.

not a single game-related post. none that i remember at least.

this is fake. i omgused a scum to death on d1 and then tunnelled the cop for the rest of the game.

cringe attempt to retrofit a narrative!