M81: A Night To Remember [GAME THREAD]

[brainbomb]

my dance chat was very nice. We talked about who we thought scum would be and each gave three guesses. We talked about life in general. and overall I have no read on them based on what was discussed.

[brainbomb]

my three scum guesses were kak-hamiltonbrian-vecna

his were ezio-jamie-sweetandcool

[aarodactyl]

my three scum guesses were kak-hamiltonbrian-vecna

his were ezio-jamie-sweetandcool

Please stop this. It’s anti town.

[Kakarroto]

I thought I've read something that was close to a mafslip (something about mentioning 'tonight' when the topic was about information of the dance pairs) and searched the previous messages, but I either misread or illusioned such a post.

Why you ask? I thought that the phrasing 'tonight' there maybe would've meant that mafia didn't have yet time to exchange their information and so I want to ask our GM a question, namely:

##askGM Does Mafia had access to their chat during N0? Or did only the dance partner have the means to communicate?

Also, I wanted a bit of clarification about the seance thing, namely about the phrasing; it says that the messages will be randomly send to their dance partners, but you can only send one message of max 100 words? Does that mean that if, say, 3 dead people write their message that they will not go to their special dance partner but to any of the living dance partners that lost theirs? Does it mean that people can write multiple messages but only one will randomly chosen? Please clarify this a bit more since I'm confused about that ##askGM

[brainbomb]

I do not know based on how they wrote their posts if any of it was TMI or bussing or anything but based on that info we can later decide if that matters

[ghug]

Either it is a sad and unlikely coincidence, or you are town reading anyone who supports an anti-town agenda.

Your manner, supports the latter case.

What if I told you that I'm also townreading anyone supporting an anti-town agenda?

Don't worry, you are my 2nd favorite vote right now.

And I think you need to look beyond behavior you find objectionable and consider whether that behavior is more likely to be coming from someone who's been in a scumchat for a night and is pushing their agenda or someone who is town playing in a way you dislike.

[aarodactyl]

I thought I've read something that was close to a mafslip (something about mentioning 'tonight' when the topic was about information of the dance pairs) and searched the previous messages, but I either misread or illusioned such a post.

Why you ask? I thought that the phrasing 'tonight' there maybe would've meant that mafia didn't have yet time to exchange their information and so I want to ask our GM a question, namely:

##askGM Does Mafia had access to their chat during N0? Or did only the dance partner have the means to communicate?

Also, I wanted a bit of clarification about the seance thing, namely about the phrasing; it says that the messages will be randomly send to their dance partners, but you can only send one message of max 100 words? Does that mean that if, say, 3 dead people write their message that they will not go to their special dance partner but to any of the living dance partners that lost theirs? Does it mean that people can write multiple messages but only one will randomly chosen? Please clarify this a bit more since I'm confused about that ##askGM

My reading of the seance is that Eden will take the messages from the ghosts, chop each to 100 characters, put them all in a random order, and the post the aggregate list to the single chat.

I’ve thought about abusing the seance and there’s a few ways. But I think mechanic talk like that should be discussed at the beginning of N1. I’ll send a wall post out explaining how we can use it to bully scum

[ghug]

I thought I've read something that was close to a mafslip (something about mentioning 'tonight' when the topic was about information of the dance pairs) and searched the previous messages, but I either misread or illusioned such a post.

Why you ask? I thought that the phrasing 'tonight' there maybe would've meant that mafia didn't have yet time to exchange their information and so I want to ask our GM a question, namely:

##askGM Does Mafia had access to their chat during N0? Or did only the dance partner have the means to communicate?

Also, I wanted a bit of clarification about the seance thing, namely about the phrasing; it says that the messages will be randomly send to their dance partners, but you can only send one message of max 100 words? Does that mean that if, say, 3 dead people write their message that they will not go to their special dance partner but to any of the living dance partners that lost theirs? Does it mean that people can write multiple messages but only one will randomly chosen? Please clarify this a bit more since I'm confused about that ##askGM

My reading of the seance is that Eden will take the messages from the ghosts, chop each to 100 characters, put them all in a random order, and the post the aggregate list to the single chat.

I’ve thought about abusing the seance and there’s a few ways. But I think mechanic talk like that should be discussed at the beginning of N1. I’ll send a wall post out explaining how we can use it to bully scum

We discussed this a lot in review and I can confirm it's an accurate description of how it works.

[brainbomb]

when I posited my chat partner confessed to being scum I did note that s&c as well as rhk were the ones to react with disbelief. and my thought was that they knew who my partner was and were questioning if my partner would ever really do that

[aarodactyl]

I thought I've read something that was close to a mafslip (something about mentioning 'tonight' when the topic was about information of the dance pairs) and searched the previous messages, but I either misread or illusioned such a post.

Why you ask? I thought that the phrasing 'tonight' there maybe would've meant that mafia didn't have yet time to exchange their information and so I want to ask our GM a question, namely:

##askGM Does Mafia had access to their chat during N0? Or did only the dance partner have the means to communicate?

Also, I wanted a bit of clarification about the seance thing, namely about the phrasing; it says that the messages will be randomly send to their dance partners, but you can only send one message of max 100 words? Does that mean that if, say, 3 dead people write their message that they will not go to their special dance partner but to any of the living dance partners that lost theirs? Does it mean that people can write multiple messages but only one will randomly chosen? Please clarify this a bit more since I'm confused about that ##askGM

My reading of the seance is that Eden will take the messages from the ghosts, chop each to 100 characters, put them all in a random order, and the post the aggregate list to the single chat.

I’ve thought about abusing the seance and there’s a few ways. But I think mechanic talk like that should be discussed at the beginning of N1. I’ll send a wall post out explaining how we can use it to bully scum

We discussed this a lot in review and I can confirm it's an accurate description of how it works.

Lol maybe this is partly why you understand the mechanics.

[President Eden]

##askGM Does Mafia had access to their chat during N0? Or did only the dance partner have the means to communicate?

All private chats including scumchat were open N0.

Also, I wanted a bit of clarification about the seance thing, namely about the phrasing; it says that the messages will be randomly send to their dance partners, but you can only send one message of max 100 words? Does that mean that if, say, 3 dead people write their message that they will not go to their special dance partner but to any of the living dance partners that lost theirs? Does it mean that people can write multiple messages but only one will randomly chosen? Please clarify this a bit more since I'm confused about that ##askGM

Each ghost generates a message of 100 characters or less. I combine it into one message and post it in the separated partners chat at EON. Each ghost's message will be separated by line breaks, but there will be no indication which ghost sent which, unless the ghost chooses to identify itself.

EX: Chaqa and I are dead. Chaqa chooses to send "ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ips." I choose to send "ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma lig." Chaqa's message is randomly chosen to go before mine.

Separated chat will receive:

"ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ips.

ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma lig."

[Kakarroto]

Maybe I should just forget mechanics this game and go full onto reads.

Yeah. That sounds fine.

[aarodactyl]

when I posited my chat partner confessed to being scum I did note that s&c as well as rhk were the ones to react with disbelief. and my thought was that they knew who my partner was and were questioning if my partner would ever really do that

This is just a meta question: why would you share this? Saying this will change their behavior regardless of alignment and make it harder for you read them further. It reads like you’re just bored and want to poke people. Which tbh is where I’m at so I should close the game for a while.

[brainbomb]

aaro has not done a single thing that I would argue is advancing a read on someone. he seems so overly enamored by the setup that he is like the excited 50 year old dad who just got his first train set but cant decide if he wants to take it out of the box or save it as a collectors item.

[President Eden]

(and by "chooses to identify itself," I mean "spending some of its 100 characters to say, e.g., 'Eden here'")

[brainbomb]

when I posited my chat partner confessed to being scum I did note that s&c as well as rhk were the ones to react with disbelief. and my thought was that they knew who my partner was and were questioning if my partner would ever really do that

This is just a meta question: why would you share this? Saying this will change their behavior regardless of alignment and make it harder for you read them further. It reads like you’re just bored and want to poke people. Which tbh is where I’m at so I should close the game for a while.

Well if I plan to vote rhk or s&c and accuse them of falling into my reaction test then I would need to explain why im voting them to everyone else. even though it probably wont be met with much adoration

[Kakarroto]

##askGM Does Mafia had access to their chat during N0? Or did only the dance partner have the means to communicate?

All private chats including scumchat were open N0.

Also, I wanted a bit of clarification about the seance thing, namely about the phrasing; it says that the messages will be randomly send to their dance partners, but you can only send one message of max 100 words? Does that mean that if, say, 3 dead people write their message that they will not go to their special dance partner but to any of the living dance partners that lost theirs? Does it mean that people can write multiple messages but only one will randomly chosen? Please clarify this a bit more since I'm confused about that ##askGM

Each ghost generates a message of 100 characters or less. I combine it into one message and post it in the separated partners chat at EON. Each ghost's message will be separated by line breaks, but there will be no indication which ghost sent which, unless the ghost chooses to identify itself.

EX: Chaqa and I are dead. Chaqa chooses to send "ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ips." I choose to send "ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma lig." Chaqa's message is randomly chosen to go before mine.

Separated chat will receive:

"ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ips.

ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma ligma lig."

ok, thanks, so every ghosts message will be sent. That's good info.

[sweetandcool]

when I posited my chat partner confessed to being scum I did note that s&c as well as rhk were the ones to react with disbelief. and my thought was that they knew who my partner was and were questioning if my partner would ever really do that

Lol yeah I'm dumb scum here. I would internally question it, not point it out in thread.

[worcej]

@worcej: I’m saying the following: your partner is more likely to be scum than anyone else in the game.

You are correct that 3/11 and 3/7 are both less than 50% but that’s not the case I’m making.

Then what’s your point you’re trying to make?

I still think claiming is actually valuable to town, especially now with what Eden said

I’m saying that everyone should tunnel on their partners and not let up for the entire game (or maybe like 2 day phases).

Also I think claim D1 has no advantage over claiming N1. And even then I don’t think it makes sense for town.

Agree with the D1 vs N1.

I do not how you arrive to the conclusion that claiming doesn’t make sense as town.

[brainbomb]

sweetandcool is playing in such a way that I cant rule out scum who is just nervously dancing around the thread looking for a safe place to park a vote