Coalition I : The Playtest

[Claesar]

If no one else makes a gambol mob is ded

Not true. If 3 people Gamble with Worcej and 4 players Friend, there's only 3 in the Mob. But yes, it's not looking great for Mob right now.

[foodcoats]

If no one else makes a gambol mob is ded

Not true. If 3 people Gamble with Worcej and 4 players Friend, there's only 3 in the Mob. But yes, it's not looking great for Mob right now.

There's the friends / mob interaction to consider. Optimize versus exploit.

[Tom Bombadil]

Message me if you want friend.. or worcej, PM me if you need another on your gamble. I’m willing to be bought :)

[Squigs44]

No more coalitions may be created this phase.

[thisisntme]

Does friending count as creating a coalition?

[Squigs44]

The “Friend” Coalition: There is no leader in this coalition. To join a coalition, PM the GM ##Friend [player]. If two players friend each other, they both gain 8 points. If a player gives their friendship and it is not reciprocated, they do not gain any points, and their target gains 2 points.

If there is no leader, it doesn't need a "creation". So you can still friend people, join the mob, or join an existing double gamble coalition.

[foodcoats]

Not so much a game theory post or a Coalition post, but... do other people have PMs routinely sitting in their outbox for 4+ hours?

[worcej]

Not so much a game theory post or a Coalition post, but... do other people have PMs routinely sitting in their outbox for 4+ hours?

Yes, it means the person you sent it to hasn't opened it yet.

[foodcoats]

Not so much a game theory post or a Coalition post, but... do other people have PMs routinely sitting in their outbox for 4+ hours?

Yes, it means the person you sent it to hasn't opened it yet.

Oooh okay I thought it hadn't sent.

[damo666]

I presume people will expect me to like the Double Gamble, but I do not. Far too messy. Besides, the math is far different.

Double Gamble:
66% chance of 0 points
33% chance of 12 points
Expected value is 3 points

Single Gamble (from last round):
50% chance of 2 points
50% chance of 8 points
EV is 5 points


I'd like to find a friend. If no suitable courter is found, I'll join the Mob. Though I estimate it's EV at 3 points as well, it makes sense when you're in the lead. Guaranteed points are better than a lottery. Surely less than half the people will join the mob.. Especially when some people don't join any coalition

DG EV=4 ?

[Claesar]

...
Double Gamble:
66% chance of 0 points
33% chance of 12 points
Expected value is 3 points
...

DG EV=4 ?

Yes, you're right That should read 4 rather than 3.

[Doshy II]

I've got my pitchfork ready, who else is in the mob?

[foodcoats]

I've got my pitchfork ready, who else is in the mob?

I'm really interested to see how it shakes out. I'm not sure what the calculations are, but everyone who thinks they have a friend is slightly more incentivized to join the mob - but so is their friend, if they're lying. Really neat scenario.

[Claesar]

I've got my pitchfork ready, who else is in the mob?

I'm thinking about it, but it's less interesting now that you (and others) are in. Maybe I should gamble instead.

[Claesar]

I've got my pitchfork ready, who else is in the mob?

I'm really interested to see how it shakes out. I'm not sure what the calculations are, but everyone who thinks they have a friend is slightly more incentivized to join the mob - but so is their friend, if they're lying. Really neat scenario.

I'm not sure they are. Sticking with your friend gives you 8 points total. Stabbing them grants you 2 for sure, but the mob seems to only award 0, 5 or 6 based on what we've seen posted. That's the same points, or worse.

[foodcoats]

I've got my pitchfork ready, who else is in the mob?

I'm really interested to see how it shakes out. I'm not sure what the calculations are, but everyone who thinks they have a friend is slightly more incentivized to join the mob - but so is their friend, if they're lying. Really neat scenario.

I'm not sure they are. Sticking with your friend gives you 8 points total. Stabbing them grants you 2 for sure, but the mob seems to only award 0, 5 or 6 based on what we've seen posted. That's the same points, or worse.

What about point denial?

[Claesar]

Oh, rats, I thought the Mob was 24/n. Apparently it's 18/n, which means I need to amend the previous post to "Mob grants 0, 4 or 5 points". So staying with your friend is strictly better.

[Claesar]

I'm really interested to see how it shakes out. I'm not sure what the calculations are, but everyone who thinks they have a friend is slightly more incentivized to join the mob - but so is their friend, if they're lying. Really neat scenario.

I'm not sure they are. Sticking with your friend gives you 8 points total. Stabbing them grants you 2 for sure, but the mob seems to only award 0, 5 or 6 based on what we've seen posted. That's the same points, or worse.

What about point denial?

Point denial seems pretty useless in Round2. I mean, maaaybe if your friend is Ike or me. But even then, focus on your own points until you know who your enemy is. As we say in the Netherlands, the first pancakes are for the children.

[foodcoats]

I'm not sure they are. Sticking with your friend gives you 8 points total. Stabbing them grants you 2 for sure, but the mob seems to only award 0, 5 or 6 based on what we've seen posted. That's the same points, or worse.

What about point denial?

Point denial seems pretty useless in Round2. I mean, maaaybe if your friend is Ike or me. But even then, focus on your own points until you know who your enemy is. As we say in the Netherlands, the first pancakes are for the children.

Hopefully the one who is making my pancakes realizes that I am a child.

[Jamiet99uk]

##CALL GM

When does the phase end?