Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

[ghug]

BunnyGo is now cybering Uclabb

I don’t know what this means. And I’m glad. EMC, please don’t explain it.

Uclabb is very tall and smart and cool and probably loaded by now, if it helps.

[BunnyGo]

Ok. Gotta disappear for a bit. ##vote Jamie

Focusing that much on town using resources for alien hunting is so pro scum it shoots brain and Jamie up my reads.

[Bonatogether]

Ok. Gotta disappear for a bit. ##vote Jamie

Focusing that much on town using resources for alien hunting is so pro scum it shoots brain and Jamie up my reads.

@celaph

[ghug]

How many scum are there?

Like this post.

Yea my first thought as town is always; hmm maybe I should find out how many bad folks there are

Those slips are sometimes believable, but they have to come more in the form of an incorrect assumption. The way he asked means he doesn't care about getting credit, and probably also means that he didn't know how many scum there were.

[celaph]

Wasn't Bob scum last game? I'm confused.

He was. I guess I more associate pocketing with playing in a particular way to get the town read of one or two people. I would describe Bob's play last game as just good and not pocketing.

The point is insignificant overall. If you're confused by it feel free to ignore it.

I am confused because you said his play last game was pro-town and I don't get how a scum play could be pro-town (unless you scumslip all your team members).

I think he was doing a good job looking like he was hunting partly because he was hunting for aliens. What makes me concerned is that I think he can hunt better than he is right now.

[brainbomb]

rereading HR he takes snarky shots at everyone he reacts too. but thats not all that weird

[ghug]

My first reaction to most of you is contempt. I don't even think damo, Bona or Foxcastle are scum, just grade A idiots. It's probably why I don't usually have much success in making friends. Hard to tell.

I think that down the line we'll have many issues with me being a wagon every day. This game is also taking up too much of my time, or it was today, so I'm not gonna push back on my wagon.

I think Jamiet and Chaqa are both decent wagons going into tomorrow. I think lfischl and Vecna are town. I think damo, Bona and Foxcastle have not more than 1 non town. I think Bunny go may be non town. I don't think you should put much stock in what anyone says on D1 because it's at least four parts self-aggrandizement to every part substance, but it's a minimal cost and a lot of potential upside in ability to say 'wow I was right' for me to write this.

I'm pretty sure there are more than 5 maf, having read the role list at some point. Why are people running their mouths propagating fake news?

It feels weird scumreading someone for having reads, but that's definitely where I am right now.

I would be offended, but to be honest your reads are rubbish as are the vast majority of people's, so I will simply take it as a compliment that my speech has been so moving as to be able to elicit strong emotions from audience

If you are town, I appreciate that you've started actually giving opinions without losing any of the vitriol.

[jasnah]

It feels weird scumreading someone for having reads, but that's definitely where I am right now.

I would be offended, but to be honest your reads are rubbish as are the vast majority of people's, so I will simply take it as a compliment that my speech has been so moving as to be able to elicit strong emotions from audience

If you are town, I appreciate that you've started actually giving opinions without losing any of the vitriol.

I actually gave a number of opinions last game and many of them were even useful. It was just more convenient to people who disliked my reads or knew from PR info that they were incorrect to pretend as if I didn't have any. A cursory look through M64 chat would show that I've always done my part contributing to public discourse

[celaph]

No, they look marginally better since no scumteam would ever group like that

Ahhhhh, yes. Let me make myself look more suspicious to get people to townread me. Classic. Always works. Can't possibly think of a reason that it would go poorly.

I always look scummy and I've only not made it to the endgame once, so it does work

I think timing here is important. We didn't kill you because we thought that scum Bona would never act like this. The only game we've played after seeing scum Bona does in fact act like this, you were killed early because of it. I doubt that you'll reach endgames with anything close the frequency like this.

[ghug]

I tend to agree. But he is obviously not the kill today and I just don't get why people are voting him. I can't see no item that scum might have that is such a threat for town to warrant a D1 kill. And he is even offering himself to be the D2 kill, an offer that we should probably take...

Dislike this post.

Why?

Planning to kill Chaqa D2 is planning a useless day regardless of his flip. If you want him dead, best to just kill him now.

[Jamiet99uk]

my advice is to have a shaman commune with kgray and find out if shes the alien. if she is she wont really care about confessing. if by some miracle shes scum I really doubt she will say. but shaman should learn her item and her role and see if anyone tries to claim it.

If Kgray doesn't reappear and turns out to be dead, that's actually worthy of consideration, yeah.

You’re suggesting you like the idea to waste a 1time use to find information from a dead person who can tell us nothing except their role and item? And that’s IF they choose not to lie? Oh. Could she choose to lie if scum?

Ah, you're right. It's only useful if she's not Mafia, and tells the truth. As scum she'd be pretty much guaranteed to lie. I see.

[Jamiet99uk]

This is a horrible suggestion

Why? It would be very useful to town to know if the Alien is out of circulation.

Do you think we won’t find out soon? Your focus on wasting a strong PR on a wild goose hunt is scummy. You were overly concerned with alien when you opened the day too. I don’t understand it.

There is a reason.

[Bonatogether]

Ahhhhh, yes. Let me make myself look more suspicious to get people to townread me. Classic. Always works. Can't possibly think of a reason that it would go poorly.

I always look scummy and I've only not made it to the endgame once, so it does work

I think timing here is important. We didn't kill you because we thought that scum Bona would never act like this. The only game we've played after seeing scum Bona does in fact act like this, you were killed early because of it. I doubt that you'll reach endgames with anything close the frequency like this.

I was playing pretty bad last game, and my damn crumb did absolutely nothing.

[Jamiet99uk]

Ok. Gotta disappear for a bit. ##vote Jamie

Focusing that much on town using resources for alien hunting is so pro scum it shoots brain and Jamie up my reads.

Exactly the kind of thing an alien would say.

[ghug]

thamrick shot would come from town or 3p. a kgray shot would only come from scum or vecna

If town had a gun and hipfired it D1 without saying anything, I'm going to be rather annoyed.

No way a town would have hipfired Kgray on D1.

I was mostly responding to the thamrick possibility. I agree that its being kgray makes it almost certainly a scum move.

[brainbomb]

Alien can start with Alien gun right?

[Jamiet99uk]

Ok. Gotta disappear for a bit. ##vote Jamie

Focusing that much on town using resources for alien hunting is so pro scum it shoots brain and Jamie up my reads.

@celaph

@bonatogether

[Bonatogether]

I always look scummy and I've only not made it to the endgame once, so it does work

I think timing here is important. We didn't kill you because we thought that scum Bona would never act like this. The only game we've played after seeing scum Bona does in fact act like this, you were killed early because of it. I doubt that you'll reach endgames with anything close the frequency like this.

I was playing pretty bad last game, and my damn crumb did absolutely nothing.

If I was playing badly *and* scummy, then I would be voted out

[Bonatogether]

Ok. Gotta disappear for a bit. ##vote Jamie

Focusing that much on town using resources for alien hunting is so pro scum it shoots brain and Jamie up my reads.

@celaph

@bonatogether

?

[ghug]

my advice is to have a shaman commune with kgray and find out if shes the alien. if she is she wont really care about confessing. if by some miracle shes scum I really doubt she will say. but shaman should learn her item and her role and see if anyone tries to claim it.

This is a horrible suggestion

Why? It would be very useful to town to know if the Alien is out of circulation.

I agree with Jamiet and brainbomb.

Time to take a shower, back before EoD.