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Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:13 pm
by Jamiet99uk
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:47 pm
I am obviously town.
I do not feel able to endorse this statement.

Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:22 pm
by kgray
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:55 pm
kgray wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:49 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:47 pm


I think this isn't the first time you read me wrong, but it's the first time I don't understand why you are attacking me. I am obviously town and you are just losing time attacking me if you are town too.
I'm not attacking you. Or at least, I wasn't until you baselessly decided to vote for me, ignoring previous things I've said. I have said that I townread everyone in the group of non-Jamie voters, but if I do a POE then I think you could be the last scum.

You are really overreacting if this is all because I "scumread" you. And you are not obviously town.
Like I said, your read on me is not relevant. I am really sorry to have included it on this discussion.
If you think I'm faking a read on you to get you miskilled then my read on you is certainly relevant.

Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:24 pm
by kgray
@Jamie do you really still think I'm scum?

Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:52 pm
by BunnyGo
Assistant General Manager official vote count:

With a little over 5 hours left in the day the votes stand as:

Durga (4) kgray lfischl Vecna dargorygel
kgray (3) Durga Jamiet99uk rdrivera2005

Celaph must cast a valid vote by EOD or get booed out of the stadium like Mighty Casey for not even trying.

Durga is set to be on the train tracks.

Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:03 pm
by Jamiet99uk
kgray wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:24 pm
@Jamie do you really still think I'm scum?
I really think there's a minimum of one scum in today's wagons.

Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:05 pm
by kgray
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:03 pm
kgray wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:24 pm
@Jamie do you really still think I'm scum?
I really think there's a minimum of one scum in today's wagons.
That wasn't my question.

Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:05 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Why hasn't Celaph voted?

Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:05 pm
by Jamiet99uk
In fact, Celaph hasn't posted in over 18 hours.

Hm.

Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:05 pm
by Durga
Aight I'm a few pages behind here

Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:06 pm
by Jamiet99uk
On the subject of Celaph I was doing a re-read of Celaph's D1:

Page 2:
Arrived and jokingly hardclaimed Alien.

P 17:
After a long absence, claimed to be caught up. Asked me why Bona wasn't among my suspects (it was because he hadn't posted at all yet).

Asked Vecna why Maniac's "blog" made Maniac obv-town.

Asked Brainbomb about his reads list. Gave Kgray townpoints for questioning Brainbomb about that same list.

Asked Brainbomb why he was so confident about scumreading Vecna.

Responded to my suggestion about what the Question should be.

Accused Kgray of pocketing (Celaph).

Asked Vecna to clarify his :vomit: reaction to Damo speculating about a Brainbomb/Jamie scumteam.

Discussed with Brainbomb whether Damo's suggestion for the Question Asker was AI.

Now here's where the scumread on me comes from:

Page 17 (last post): Celaph is very surprised that I asked Vecna "what was your point?" (as later explained, I was mocking Vecna but Celaph seemed not to understand).

Page 18:
Continues not to undertstand that I was mocking Vecna. Has trouble understanding the concept of sarcasm.

Page 19:
Keeps not understanding me, calls me "the most suspicious", and votes for me.

Page 20:
"Not a fan of" me and finds it odd that Brainbomb defended me, but "wants to avoid the pair" - (the "pair" presumably being me and Brainbomb).

Clarifies that by "avoid", means that the Question Asker should avoid asking about me, not that people should avoid voting me.

Page 23:
I explain my sarcarsm toward Vecna again. Celaph now accepts this and unvotes me.

Asks Kgray to explain her naked vote on Damo.

Page 25:
Townreads Vecna and Kgray.

Calls out the people on my wagon, calling upon them to enage with my responses to Celaph's argument (which had, apparently, reversed Celaph's own read).

When Kgray responds (very sketchily) to the question about her Damo vote, Celaph asks "are you scum?"

Page 29:
As EoD approaches, asks me what my read is on Bozo. (I had logged out by then and I didn't reply).

Page 30:
Doesn't love like any of the main wagons, will vote for Damo reluctantly "if it comes down to it". Votes Bozo.

Page 31:
With 5 minutes to do, comments that Damo's defence of himself is poor, and since the Bozo wagon is losing steam (Brainbomb just moved off it), Celaph votes Damo. Still scumreads Bozo and wants to make this clear.

Is "not in love" with the Damo wagon. Stays there. Damo dies.


Celaph's D2 re-read shortly.

Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:08 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Durga wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:05 pm
Aight I'm a few pages behind here
You last posted 7 - 8 pages ago. Welcome back.

It's you vs Kgray in a contest the sporting press are already calling "the clash of the two people we are voting today".

Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:08 pm
by Durga
kgray wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:50 am
Durga wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:59 am
Ok why would bozo stay on me when the vote was literally 5 v 6 if we were scum together and when it was so easy to move on bona? Bozo just parked his vote on me both days and fucked off.
Bozo's last post yesterday was 3 hours before EOD, so he could have just not been around when you had a counterwagon?
I have no idea if he was around or not but the fact is he was comfortable to park his vote on me and dip totally. Not something you do to your teammates

Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:10 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Durga wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:08 pm
kgray wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:50 am
Durga wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:59 am
Ok why would bozo stay on me when the vote was literally 5 v 6 if we were scum together and when it was so easy to move on bona? Bozo just parked his vote on me both days and fucked off.
Bozo's last post yesterday was 3 hours before EOD, so he could have just not been around when you had a counterwagon?
I have no idea if he was around or not but the fact is he was comfortable to park his vote on me and dip totally. Not something you do to your teammates
Vecna says that Bozo has sometimes bussed his team-mates hard, in the past. What is your verdict of this assessment of Bozo's history?

Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:10 pm
by Durga
kgray wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:53 am
Durga wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:03 am
Man I'm tired and the thought of fighting this again is exhausting, honestly bozo's flip should practically clear me. Whatever nonsense kgray is talking about me being awkward around bozo is ridiculous. He was hardly here, you can apply that logic to half this game.

##vote kgray because I feel like she's just "saved" me twice to set me up for a later miskill and this bozo argument just proves that
Why didn't you vote for bozo D1 when he was your counterwagon and you'd not read the game?
When was bozo my counterwagon? I don't remember him even being on the table. I remember it being Jamiet and then I was sus of damo so I voted for damo. I don't vote for people I don't find scummy if I can vote for someone I do.

Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:10 pm
by Jamiet99uk
kgray wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:05 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:03 pm
kgray wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:24 pm
@Jamie do you really still think I'm scum?
I really think there's a minimum of one scum in today's wagons.
That wasn't my question.
I know. However, it was my answer.

Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:12 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Durga wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:10 pm
When was bozo my counterwagon? I don't remember him even being on the table.
During D1, from about two hours prior to EoD, until about one hour prior to EoD.

Look at the bot and you'll see a period of around about an hour when Bozo was the second-placed wagon.

Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:12 pm
by Durga
Vecna wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:26 am
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 2:18 am
@Celaph: You were right about Bozo. Kudos. If you're town, one of Durga/Kgray/Vecna must be scum. Which do you think it is?

@Kgray: Is Durga still a scumread for you?

@Durga: If you are town, which of Celaph, Kgray, or Vecna do you now think is scum?

@Vecna: If you are town, which of Celaph, Kgray, or Durga do you now think is scum?
Im pretty convinced both Kgray and Celaph are town. Still have minor doubts about his super-happy tone which is reminiscent of his game as alien, but his recent long wall-posts were at least a lot closer to his very first towngame.
This kind of blows my mind. There's confirmed scum between four of us and you're not even entertaining that it can be the other two?

Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:13 pm
by Durga
Vecna wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:30 am
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 2:23 am
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 2:16 am
8 players remain

2 scum
6 town

1 - 2 scum in the pool of Celaph / Durga / Kgray / Vecna (at least 1 guaranteed)

0 - 1 scum may be in the pool of Dargorygel / Jamiet99uk / lfischl / Rdrivera2005.
It's pretty obvious we should vote in the first pool. I am torn between Durga and Vecna. I want to do some re-read tomorrow before voting.
Just bus Durga already
I don't remember you ever stating why you think I'm scum...

Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:14 pm
by Jamiet99uk
I don't like baseball. It's an extremely dull sport.

Re: Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:15 pm
by Durga
Vecna wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:04 am
##vote Durga

I dont really see any other possible vote for today tbh
Why? I'm going to fucking scream if it's kgray - vecna