M 1029: The webMafia Olympics game 1 SPY VS SPY

[Haze with a Z]

Kinda feels like we lost.

Ngl the other idea for optimal play could be kill spirit and then no kill til everyone or at least me is recruited

If this was anyone's actual consideration, I'm continuing this game under protest.

How is that different from continuing this game not under protest?

[Haze with a Z]

Also ghug what do you expect me to do when literally no one listens to who I think the other og is and instead goes after the one claimed that we shoulda gone tomorrow or someone I think would only be a recruit. Whom I’m starting to think no longer cares by their lack of yelling at me

[Haze with a Z]

I think we lost but there are still two ways to win and so ig I gotta hold out hope for those.

[ghug]

Kinda feels like we lost.

Ngl the other idea for optimal play could be kill spirit and then no kill til everyone or at least me is recruited

If this was anyone's actual consideration, I'm continuing this game under protest.

How is that different from continuing this game not under protest?

I'll whine a bunch afterwards about how the youths are ruining society

[Haze with a Z]

This conversation has illuminated a few things though:
1. D3 is likely 4-3-2 or else spirits’ claim doesn’t make sense.
1b. It could be 3-3-3 with spirit simply wanting to leave the game and convening with his spy pals to flip a person of their choosing.

2. If spirit was on the minority spy team, it’s probably best if there ends up being 1 spy for D4 that they claim right away so town can help them.

3. If spirit was on the majority spy team, nothing really changes for town. We got rid of a factional kill so yay!

I don’t understand your logic for #2 tbh and you can mean two different things which is confusing tbh.

[Haze with a Z]

Kinda feels like we lost.



If this was anyone's actual consideration, I'm continuing this game under protest.

How is that different from continuing this game not under protest?

I'll whine a bunch afterwards about how the youths are ruining society

You can whine about it now

[Haze with a Z]

I can whine about how so many people are just bad people based on manga, tv, and the news or about how bad I am at keeping I; touch with friends that I end up in my room depressed about being lonely with no idea of how to fix it besides laying with my dogs

[ghug]

How is that different from continuing this game not under protest?

I'll whine a bunch afterwards about how the youths are ruining society

You can whine about it now

That's what I'm doing.

I don't blame you, it does seem like you tried. If you take Spirit at face value though, which is the conclusion I reached before he claimed, the game is pretty much over, and I'm frustrated I wasted several days of my life on a game with such a stupid setup.

Please recruit me I guess?

[Yoyoyozo]

I'll whine a bunch afterwards about how the youths are ruining society

You can whine about it now

That's what I'm doing.

I don't blame you, it does seem like you tried. If you take Spirit at face value though, which is the conclusion I reached before he claimed, the game is pretty much over, and I'm frustrated I wasted several days of my life on a game with such a stupid setup.

Please recruit me I guess?

Darg worked hard on this setup and I think you should be more respectful.

[ghug]

You can whine about it now

That's what I'm doing.

I don't blame you, it does seem like you tried. If you take Spirit at face value though, which is the conclusion I reached before he claimed, the game is pretty much over, and I'm frustrated I wasted several days of my life on a game with such a stupid setup.

Please recruit me I guess?

Darg worked hard on this setup and I think you should be more respectful.

Darg has long understood my distance for this type of game. It's a matter of preference, not personal disdain.

[ghug]

Distaste*

[Yoyoyozo]

Are you upset that I don’t want to be on a team with you anymore? I’m confused

[ghug]

Are you upset that I don’t want to be on a team with you anymore? I’m confused

I'm upset that even catching mafia doesn't feel good. It's a game where you have no agency invites you're one of a few specific players.

[Yoyoyozo]

If you’re town, I cannot conceive of how you’d be upset at that flip. Was spirit your spy partner? If so, wouldn’t you have talked to him in your chat? This griping seems contrived

[ghug]

If you’re town, I cannot conceive of how you’d be upset at that flip. Was spirit your spy partner? If so, wouldn’t you have talked to him in your chat? This griping seems contrived

If Spirit was telling the truth then there's likely another scumteam with three people and his team can't recruit or kill. My personal best chance at winning this game is likely that team recruiting me. That's a deeply unsatisfying way to win and a deeply unsatisfying way to lose.

If Spirit was lying, there are two scumteams in a roughly equal balance of power and we'll play on working to kingmake by catching one of them or, if we're lucky, get recruited and work to convince the poor saps who are still town to side with us.

Prior to this, we had an informationless day where we killed a townie and an informationless day where we killed nobody. There's been no game to solve until it's too late to do anything about it. That's not a fun game. Maybe it's more fun if you got recruited, but my experience with past games is that it isn't.

[Yoyoyozo]

I’m not convinced. Why would spirit want to specifically get rid of brainbomb? He didn’t even consider the possibility of anything else.

[Yoyoyozo]

Anyone* I even suggested you. He could have made a case for anyone but he chose a player that he said he tried to recruit but failed (even though that doesn’t necessarily mean it was a spy)

[ghug]

I’m not convinced. Why would spirit want to specifically get rid of brainbomb? He didn’t even consider the possibility of anything else.

Cause he knew brain was scum, right? It reads like a desperation move from a player who's near losing. Brain could be right that it was a gamble to win on the spot, but I don't see why he'd be so set on brain in that case.

We'll find out if the game's not over tomorrow, I guess.

[Hamilton Brian]

Why bozo?

They are the leader of the bigger team

I am still trying to piece together yesterday afternoon.

How was bozo being the leader of the bigger team proven as true?

[bozotheclown]

Also ghug what do you expect me to do when literally no one listens to who I think the other og is and instead goes after the one claimed that we shoulda gone tomorrow or someone I think would only be a recruit. Whom I’m starting to think no longer cares by their lack of yelling at me

Why do you think I am a D1 mafia, or mafia at all?