M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

#1341 Post by FlaviusAetius » Mon May 20, 2019 11:31 pm

xorxes wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 11:14 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 9:43 pm
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 9:40 pm
throwing tinfoil time! Is there any chance that both teacon and xorxes are faking this as scum? it's so...excessive, for lack of better wording.
I like the theory, if teacon flipped scum, xorxes might be unlynchable no matter how many NKs he survives.
I'm quite happy to be lynched right after Flavius if we lynch teacon and Flavius by some miracle flips town.
Can you lay out why you think Im a scum?
Is it because of what vapor has done?
Please look at me with new eyes, I've read this game, and it seems like a few people were acting out of their character, mainly moscow and damo.
Damo turned out to be mafia.
Vapor struck me as a scum, but he definitely wouldn't have been on the top of my list.
I'm glad we can at least agree teacon is clearly scum

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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

#1342 Post by FlaviusAetius » Mon May 20, 2019 11:32 pm

Also I entirely think that was a complete conincidence of what damo did xorxes, there was no way anyone is that meticulous, its not even worth it.
As brainbomb said; simple cases are often correct.

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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

#1343 Post by xorxes » Mon May 20, 2019 11:35 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 9:55 pm
Durga wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 9:53 pm
EspressoPatronum wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 9:52 pm


I think it's fine to leave the argument at a simmer for now.
i disagree. one more day of this is a waste of time. and if xorx gets nk'd then teacon gets away
I think if xorxes get NKed teacon would be the lynch D3, despite the WIFOM possibility.
You better make sure that happens if that's the case.

If you are town you are a more likely kill than me tonight I'm afraid, but we'll see.

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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

#1344 Post by EspressoPatronum » Mon May 20, 2019 11:37 pm

FlaviusAetius wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 11:31 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 11:14 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 9:43 pm


I like the theory, if teacon flipped scum, xorxes might be unlynchable no matter how many NKs he survives.
I'm quite happy to be lynched right after Flavius if we lynch teacon and Flavius by some miracle flips town.
Can you lay out why you think Im a scum?
Is it because of what vapor has done?
Please look at me with new eyes, I've read this game, and it seems like a few people were acting out of their character, mainly moscow and damo.
Damo turned out to be mafia.
Vapor struck me as a scum, but he definitely wouldn't have been on the top of my list.
I'm glad we can at least agree teacon is clearly scum
All of his hooker comments were hiiighly suspicious. It seemed like he was trying to get people to assume he was RBd without actually having to confirm or deny it. He did some heavy backtracking once xorxes asked him pointedly.

I'll for sure look at you with new eyes, but the unfortunate truth is that you carry Vapor's baggage. Can you perhaps give us some insight on what you think he was trying to do with the suspicious comments?

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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

#1345 Post by FlaviusAetius » Mon May 20, 2019 11:44 pm

Maybe I'm looking at it with a biased view, since I know what Vapor was...
But where was he trying to find people with roles?

It seems to me he gradually came to the conclusion, Moscow,Teacon and emc are scum

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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

#1346 Post by FlaviusAetius » Mon May 20, 2019 11:46 pm

@teacon that might be why I was so adamant, and still am on you being a scum, not only have people who I believe are town(xorxes and espresso) but also two people so far who I know are town have also targetted you(durga and vapor(who is now me))

I'm at a spot no one else is at, one where I know whatever the person before me said with honesty.
It might seem like I'm tunneling you, but its because I have the personal evidence too.

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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

#1347 Post by FlaviusAetius » Mon May 20, 2019 11:50 pm

Im excited for the isos to start showing so we can see all the evidence out before us, but for you, I know what you are, a scum.

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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

#1348 Post by FlaviusAetius » Mon May 20, 2019 11:50 pm

FlaviusAetius wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 11:44 pm
Maybe I'm looking at it with a biased view, since I know what Vapor was...
But where was he trying to find people with roles?

It seems to me he gradually came to the conclusion, Moscow,Teacon and emc are scum
Like specifically the quotes, I read through all his posts twice now.

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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

#1349 Post by xorxes » Mon May 20, 2019 11:55 pm

EspressoPatronum wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 10:41 pm
@xorxes and @teacon
Assuming tomorrow is indeed x v t, can each of you list the core of your arguments as succinctly as possible?

I'm a patient person who enjoys reading, but I'd be lying if I said I made it through the entirety of your debate without skimming sections. I imagine the same goes for most of the others.
One clear sign he is being dishonest is the way he brought up the logical fallacies. He did it a few times so you can probably find one with peterbot easily. He can't possibly honestly think I would be such an idiot as to make such an obviously flawed argument, so he was presenting it knowing full well that was not my argument. Dishonest -> scum, not misguided town.

Flavius also brought up the logical fallacy idiocy, but that should wait until after teacon.

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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

#1350 Post by xorxes » Mon May 20, 2019 11:58 pm

FlaviusAetius wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 10:42 pm

Thank you by the way for being part of the reason why I switched to Vashta, following ND is probably a smart move since he's pretty much-confirmed town for everyone.

Also, @teacon, seems you only started coming after my neck when I started to scumread you. Interesting.
:lol:

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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

#1351 Post by xorxes » Tue May 21, 2019 12:06 am

FlaviusAetius wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 11:31 pm


Can you lay out why you think Im a scum?
Is it because of what vapor has done?
Mostly yes, you haven't done much yet. But your logical fallacy post was very telling.
Please look at me with new eyes, I've read this game, and it seems like a few people were acting out of their character, mainly moscow and damo.
Damo turned out to be mafia.
Vapor struck me as a scum, but he definitely wouldn't have been on the top of my list.
I'm glad we can at least agree teacon is clearly scum
Yep, teacon is definitely first choice for me.

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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

#1352 Post by FlaviusAetius » Tue May 21, 2019 12:07 am

What logical fallacy post?

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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

#1353 Post by FlaviusAetius » Tue May 21, 2019 12:08 am

You do know town who know their town, often will makes slips that they wouldn't think twice about, but a player whose analyzing everything would. a.k.a. too wolfy to be a wolf!

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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

#1354 Post by xorxes » Tue May 21, 2019 12:16 am

FlaviusAetius wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 12:07 am
What logical fallacy post?
Weird. I could have sworn you had said something about logical fallacies, but I can't find it now. I must have dreamt it.

Strike that then.

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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

#1355 Post by EspressoPatronum » Tue May 21, 2019 12:31 am

xorxes wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 12:16 am
FlaviusAetius wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 12:07 am
What logical fallacy post?
Weird. I could have sworn you had said something about logical fallacies, but I can't find it now. I must have dreamt it.

Strike that then.
I think teacon was the one talking about fallacies.

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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

#1356 Post by xorxes » Tue May 21, 2019 12:39 am

EspressoPatronum wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 12:31 am
xorxes wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 12:16 am
FlaviusAetius wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 12:07 am
What logical fallacy post?
Weird. I could have sworn you had said something about logical fallacies, but I can't find it now. I must have dreamt it.

Strike that then.
I think teacon was the one talking about fallacies.
He certainly was, but for some reason I thought Flavius posted a link from wikipedia too. It was probably teacon then.

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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

#1357 Post by FlaviusAetius » Tue May 21, 2019 12:42 am

emc who do you think is a scum, tell us right here right now.

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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

#1358 Post by e.m.c^42 » Tue May 21, 2019 12:46 am

FlaviusAetius wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 12:42 am
emc who do you think is a scum, tell us right here right now.
Almost done catching up yesterday

will posts thoughts then :D


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Re: M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

#1360 Post by bozotheclown » Tue May 21, 2019 12:55 am

xorxes wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 11:25 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 9:48 pm
EspressoPatronum wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 9:47 pm


I'd say scum has more reason to copy reads. They're trying to fake the whole thing, so why not copy something real from a past game?
I think damo does not need to resort to that as scum.
Nobody needs to resort to that. What has that got to do with it?
It matters because he would not do it for no reason, and he had no reason to do it. Is it your theory that damo did not know what write about me, so he reread the previous game with the intention of finding a read of me to copy?

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