Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda

[Durga]

##CALL GM: If there is a doctor able to prevent a mafia kill, would the player saved get a message saying they were saved?

[xorxes]

Also Ghug, in case you have gotten suspicious about that missing message from the mod for your save, you should ask the mod why its missing.

They told me D1 there are no announcements on saves in this game for some reason, you can confirm this with them.

If that rule exists then there must be some saving mechanism, so I think the existence of the rule gives credibility to your claim. The only one who died without a chance to claim I think was ND, so I suppose he could have been the doctor but how would you know that.

With this info I would have been less sure about Fox, but with his response to me I'm pretty sure he's scum, so not knowing about it worked out I suppose.

[Durga]

##CALL GM: If there is a doctor able to prevent a mafia kill, would the player saved get a message saying they were saved?

No set up questions will be answered.

[xorxes]

##CALL GM: If there is a doctor able to prevent a mafia kill, would the player saved get a message saying they were saved?

I'm assuming that if the GM is not telling us then they didn't tell Vecna either.

##VOTE Vecna

[xorxes]

Veccy, what do you make of nobody noticing that my plan to confirm Damian is flawed?

Is your plan something other than: everyone votes on one person except for Damian who votes for someone else and uses his power?

Nope, that's my plan. It's flawed.

I thought your plan was you and damian vote for one of Fox or bozo each. Since I think both are scum it doesn't really matter.

But with this Vecna thing I don't know what to do. I will follow your instructions.

[bozotheclown]

It looks like I was wrong again about two of Ezio, xorxes and rdrivera being scum.

[bozotheclown]

##CALL GM: If there is a doctor able to prevent a mafia kill, would the player saved get a message saying they were saved?

No set up questions will be answered.

Sorry, I had to ask since Vecna claimed he had this question answered by the GM.

[damian]

Very busy weekend for me. Sorry.

Given that Durga won’t give us the information Vecna claims he was given. The claim from Vecna looks faked.

If Vecna is fake claiming, and withheld the kill, what does that do to the odds of Fox being scum?

Vecna, Bozo, ??? Scum team.

Ultimately I’ll go along with whatever plan is best for town. I think the town clear is more useful than the pushing back LYOL one more phase given that we have so many very scummy Lynch options.

Having me vote for a different target then Ghug seems risky, and I don’t think we’re likely to goad scum into biting now that we’ve talked about it.

[xorxes]

Regardless, he should save the extra vote. If it works in lylo/mylo at any point, it should town confirm him still then, because such abilities should never work for scum at that point in the game.

I don't see how confirming him later is better than confirming him now. If he is town scum will NK him before he has a chance to use it, so how is it not better for town to know now?

[Ezio]

Ghug/Ezio/Vecna scumteam?!?

[bozotheclown]

Very busy weekend for me. Sorry.

Given that Durga won’t give us the information Vecna claims he was given. The claim from Vecna looks faked.

If Vecna is fake claiming, and withheld the kill, what does that do to the odds of Fox being scum?

Vecna, Bozo, ??? Scum team.

Ultimately I’ll go along with whatever plan is best for town. I think the town clear is more useful than the pushing back LYOL one more phase given that we have so many very scummy Lynch options.

Having me vote for a different target then Ghug seems risky, and I don’t think we’re likely to goad scum into biting now that we’ve talked about it.

Are you confirming you are using your extra vote today?

[damian]

I’d buy either Rd, Fox or Xorxes as the final scum.
Note how Xorxes tries to clear Vecna for his information from the GM without confirming it.

If fox is scum and we have two fake claimants. I’d guess Bozo is town (which I’m starting to think might be the more likely possibility. Why would he blow Vecna’s cover otherwise) and the treat would likely be. Fox, Xorxes or RD, Vecna.

[bozotheclown]

##CALL GM: If there is a doctor able to prevent a mafia kill, would the player saved get a message saying they were saved?

I'm assuming that if the GM is not telling us then they didn't tell Vecna either.

##VOTE Vecna

We need everyone voting together today.

[damian]

I’m awaiting final input from Ghug. And the rest of y’all too I guess.

I’m strongly leaning towards using my extra vote. Because we seem to have a highly likelihood of lynching scum today. Someone would have to make a damn good argument why I shouldn’t to change my mind

[xorxes]

Ghug/Ezio/Vecna scumteam?!?

If ghug is scum the setup is perverse, so I won't even contemplate that.

[xorxes]

I'm assuming that if the GM is not telling us then they didn't tell Vecna either.

##VOTE Vecna

We need everyone voting together today.

I will move back to Fox (or to you) if ghug tells me to.

[damian]

Hmm. Ezio might slot in as well. Maybe as the third member of one of those pairings. I really don’t know what to make of his flip on Xorxes and all the information we got about how he was hamming things up.

[Vecna]

##CALL GM: If there is a doctor able to prevent a mafia kill, would the player saved get a message saying they were saved?

No set up questions will be answered.

Well Worcej DID answer it when I asked, so its kind of odd that youre refusing this now

[Vecna]

Regardless, he should save the extra vote. If it works in lylo/mylo at any point, it should town confirm him still then, because such abilities should never work for scum at that point in the game.

I don't see how confirming him later is better than confirming him now. If he is town scum will NK him before he has a chance to use it, so how is it not better for town to know now?

Because finding out now makes his ability useless, and were not lynching him regardless today?

[bozotheclown]

I’m awaiting final input from Ghug. And the rest of y’all too I guess.

I’m strongly leaning towards using my extra vote. Because we seem to have a highly likelihood of lynching scum today. Someone would have to make a damn good argument why I shouldn’t to change my mind

I agree you should use your vote today, since there is no real doctor, if you survive today it will be best to have you cleared.