MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

[yavuzovic]

Yavu, y2k claimed he used a nurse-kit to save bb. Are you aware of that?

I withdrew my vote, and I see. It was super scummy but I see he yowncleared himself as he saved BB. Who knows, maybe as Flash said mafia didn't use the nightkill to let Flash claim but this is also brain forcing. Let's lynch ND

[damo666]

Birthday card:

Didn't use N0 as wanted more info to consider

Didn't send to townclear because lack of value and danger they could be NK

Chose RHK because he asked for it and I wanted to gauge his reaction and speed of reveal. Thought the reveal less open than it could have been. I'm a null on him.

For Flash

[xorxes]

On mobile. If I did was accident. Post no.?

While you are here Damo, why did you send the card to DemonRHK instead of BB? DemonRHK was not confirmed town.

He already answered this, and I agree with him it was better to send it to a non-clear.

In any case, the card can't be used if stolen by Mafia, so damo is clear.

[damo666]

Well, I had some time and re-read Flash and Durga considering Brain's theories. I still think Flash is a stretch. He looks the same as last game and his Moscow shoot as scum only make sense if Durga is also scum.

And this is a possibility, re-reading her seems that Brain have a point, I don't see much effort other then defending himself and calling other people stupid. The reasons that makes me think she isn't scum is that I can't see her and Ghug on the same team and that I don't believe she will claim the cannon at N0 that way. All things considered, I still think she isn't a good choice to lynch now.

I still think that we have a better chance to hit scum on Ghug. ##vote Ghug

This one, I can't say post number because I use a different order of posts.

Accidental. Have PMd GMs. Will refrain from posting further until I hear more. Sorry

[yavuzovic]

Vecna made a theory about town-ND using meta reads. He is trying to make his scumbuddy clear but ND made nothing to make us feel he is town. Vecna is also on my scumreads list.

[flash2015]

OK, thanks.

[yavuzovic]

I don't think it will be a problem damo, I aill request GMs to forgive this. I made the same thing in Tiny Hunt and nothing happened.

[xorxes]

Well, I had some time and re-read Flash and Durga considering Brain's theories. I still think Flash is a stretch. He looks the same as last game and his Moscow shoot as scum only make sense if Durga is also scum.

And this is a possibility, re-reading her seems that Brain have a point, I don't see much effort other then defending himself and calling other people stupid. The reasons that makes me think she isn't scum is that I can't see her and Ghug on the same team and that I don't believe she will claim the cannon at N0 that way. All things considered, I still think she isn't a good choice to lynch now.

I still think that we have a better chance to hit scum on Ghug. ##vote Ghug

This one, I can't say post number because I use a different order of posts.

Accidental. Have PMd GMs. Will refrain from posting further until I hear more. Sorry

In any case, you being a townclear there is no information you could have to transmit via +1. I don't understand what kind of logic yavu was using there.

[y2kjbk]

Yavuz acted like this last game as town, throwing things around impulsively without careful reading (but who am I to judge?). I would expect similar behavior as town from him here especially given he subbed in and wasn't actually here for a lot of the initial game.

[flash2015]

On mobile. If I did was accident. Post no.?

While you are here Damo, why did you send the card to DemonRHK instead of BB? DemonRHK was not confirmed town.

He already answered this, and I agree with him it was better to send it to a non-clear.

In any case, the card can't be used if stolen by Mafia, so damo is clear.

Why was it better to send to a non-town clear? This just makes DemonRHK look more towny without him actually doing anything. If he had sent to BB, I am sure BB would have announced straight away too that he received the card...so no danger of him being NK before revealing.

[damo666]

This one, I can't say post number because I use a different order of posts.

Accidental. Have PMd GMs. Will refrain from posting further until I hear more. Sorry

In any case, you being a townclear there is no information you could have to transmit via +1. I don't understand what kind of logic yavu was using there.

Precisely the logic I used when PMing GMs. Thnakfully they understood and pardoned me (with a caution to take more care).

[y2kjbk]

If flash was actually town, why wouldn't he have let Durga, who already claimed her cannon, see if she wanted to blast MF, and he could stay hidden?

yavuz, what do you think of the corollary to my post you scum-read?

[xorxes]

Why was it better to send to a non-town clear? This just makes DemonRHK look more towny without him actually doing anything. If he had sent to BB, I am sure BB would have announced straight away too that he received the card...so no danger of him being NK before revealing.

bb could have been killed.

Also, seeing how someone reacted to receiving the letter is better than not having that info at all.

[damo666]

While you are here Damo, why did you send the card to DemonRHK instead of BB? DemonRHK was not confirmed town.

He already answered this, and I agree with him it was better to send it to a non-clear.

In any case, the card can't be used if stolen by Mafia, so damo is clear.

Why was it better to send to a non-town clear? This just makes DemonRHK look more towny without him actually doing anything. If he had sent to BB, I am sure BB would have announced straight away too that he received the card...so no danger of him being NK before revealing.

I assume the gap between BC and NK is minimal giving very little chance of posting.

If RHK town no harm done, if scum he can no longer scumhunt me and having no item I become a little value NK thus preserving a townvote.

Xorxes - I'm beginning to think you are quite bright.

[y2kjbk]

flash, why couldn't you have just shot Moscow without claiming?

[y2kjbk]

you missed an awesome opportunity to give Durga a reaction test.

[flash2015]

Why was it better to send to a non-town clear? This just makes DemonRHK look more towny without him actually doing anything. If he had sent to BB, I am sure BB would have announced straight away too that he received the card...so no danger of him being NK before revealing.

bb could have been killed.

Also, seeing how someone reacted to receiving the letter is better than not having that info at all.

OK, I forgot that Birthday Card can only be received at EON.

[yavuzovic]

If flash was actually town, why wouldn't he have let Durga, who already claimed her cannon, see if she wanted to blast MF, and he could stay hidden?

yavuz, what do you think of the corollary to my post you scum-read?

I don't know. If.Flash was mafia and had cannon, of course it would be a good idea to kill MoscowFleet before Durga kills, so he could townclear himself.
But also if he was town, he wants mafia dead and he might want to kill MoscowFleet, who was clearly mafia. If I had cannon I would shoot MoscowFleet as soon as possible. This didn't sound like a scummy behaviour. But anyway, true, shooting MF doesn't make Flash 100% town.

[yavuzovic]

I will be out of thread for a few hours. Before (real) night I will be here.

[xorxes]

I assume the gap between BC and NK is minimal giving very little chance of posting.

Zero chance, bb would have been informed in the same post that he received a letter and was killed.

If RHK town no harm done, if scum he can no longer scumhunt me and having no item I become a little value NK thus preserving a townvote.

Xorxes - I'm beginning to think you are quite bright.

So they say.