Re: M1025 Game Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:19 pm
But that's just a theory.
A brain theory!
A brain theory!
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But that's just a theory.
Why would any Mafia team be so obsessed with finding the Doc that it would be their only focus?
So the concept when applied as mafia is many dialogue lines:
yesbrainbomb wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:24 pmSo the concept when applied as mafia is many dialogue lines:
mafia chats are usually so much more insufferably boring to read then my from the maf chat dreams.
Who should we kill
we need to find the doc
who is playing well
who is a threat to us
who can we not kill do to a doc protection
what kill is gonna massively get a ton of mischops
you want to hit all of these on one shot. you wanna find the doc win the girls heart climb to the top of vesuvius and drop a nuke in.
now a more casual less sporting mafia team might blunder their way in fear to arrive at
lets just hope we hit a PR because this games a mess and we dont know who doc will save and theres too many good town
the problem I have with B or any variant of B is that it implies amatuerism and pushes the idea of incomplete views of the game. usually mafia have a who is PR roundtable in addition to a who is playing well roundtable.
@chaqa
Chaqa wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2023 2:54 pm
brainbomb wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2023 2:54 pm
if only consider speedeagons if it was rdrivera or damo
Rivera is a better second wagon than Bozo.
No, I am not.
The only source of motive we have for someones murder is who killed them by day and who killed them by night - and why.President Eden wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:30 pmthe lesson you still are not absorbing, and may never absorb, is that without knowing the right answers in advance, you can paint basically any narrative to frame anybody based upon a nightkill
that’s why I called this a creative writing session
the only difference between what you’re doing and somebody plugging “write a story where eden is mafia and killed rdr” into ChatGPT is that you’re actually a good writer and the robot isn’t
but neither output is reflective of anything more than its input
you’re not deducting. you’re painting by numbers. that’s the issue.brainbomb wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:32 pmThe only source of motive we have for someones murder is who killed them by day and who killed them by night - and why.President Eden wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:30 pmthe lesson you still are not absorbing, and may never absorb, is that without knowing the right answers in advance, you can paint basically any narrative to frame anybody based upon a nightkill
that’s why I called this a creative writing session
the only difference between what you’re doing and somebody plugging “write a story where eden is mafia and killed rdr” into ChatGPT is that you’re actually a good writer and the robot isn’t
but neither output is reflective of anything more than its input
this is a murder deduction game. The game is about fitting the logical most likely peices into the most likely spots they fit. Thats what mafia is
I don't think anyone asked why.
Its scenario based logic. and it tracks with things that actually happened. and explores the why they happened aspect.President Eden wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:34 pmyou’re not deducting. you’re painting by numbers. that’s the issue.brainbomb wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:32 pmThe only source of motive we have for someones murder is who killed them by day and who killed them by night - and why.President Eden wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:30 pmthe lesson you still are not absorbing, and may never absorb, is that without knowing the right answers in advance, you can paint basically any narrative to frame anybody based upon a nightkill
that’s why I called this a creative writing session
the only difference between what you’re doing and somebody plugging “write a story where eden is mafia and killed rdr” into ChatGPT is that you’re actually a good writer and the robot isn’t
but neither output is reflective of anything more than its input
this is a murder deduction game. The game is about fitting the logical most likely peices into the most likely spots they fit. Thats what mafia is
your theory is only falsifiable by my flip. all theories are falsifiable by flipping the subject of them.
and to be clear this is not an accusation of bad faith in your methodology, only of bad methodology
they kill because they need six townies (plus two for every one of their own that does) to die for them to win, and they need town’s consent for half of those deaths. so killing someone who town might consent to killing is generally a bad value proposition, and requires some upside to justify.
Why am I bad if Bozo's scum? I tried to kill him and moved off when he'd lost.damo666 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 10:40 amIf Bozo is scum then from VCA Bona and Jamie look good, {Chaqa, Eden, Pyx, rdr} null, {Bra Bun Flum ghug (me)} bad. Since I don't think the bad group are particularly bad I suspect Bozo is town.
If Bozo is town there is not a lot to be gleaned other than the suspicion there is at least one scum in {brain, pyx, Bona}, brain and pyx for being off 2 lead wagons and Bona for being on Bozo from early doors.
you. are. engaging. in. guesswork. and. calling. it. nka.brainbomb wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:36 pmwhen you remove any form of nka from your game you replace it with guesswork, uninformed guesswork rooted in zilch/nothing and you make night phases a wifom excercise that serves no hunting purpose at all.
the nights may as well just be silent too if thats the case.
Don't encourage him to do that again.President Eden wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:30 pm
the only difference between what you’re doing and somebody plugging “write a story where eden is mafia and killed rdr” into ChatGPT is that you’re actually a good writer and the robot isn’t
I was irked by your ratio of +1ing to saying things, and damo was much more question asky than opinion statey.Chaqa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 10:55 amYour read on Damo and I is really lazy. What was unimpressive about our EOD compared to our first 24 hours? Why was it unimpressive?ghug wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:48 amI guess I should put my thoughts down for people to not listen to when I'm dead.
Scummies:
Eden - Trying not to tunnel but I really wanna tunnel
Bozo
Useless and thus suspicious
Bona
Flum - I still think he might have been defending bona with his late day votes, and I don't think he'd vote for Eden the way he did if they were teammates, so adjust accordingly if either of those two flip.
Rd
Uneasy townreads:
Brain - Disliked him early but he's trending upwards.
Damo - liked his first 24 hours but EoD was unimpressive
Chaqa - same as damo
Easier townreads:
Pyxxy - I think the v i b e s thing doesn't have much scum motivation and I liked his evolution on Bunny in that wall. I also caught a little hint of the feistiness of last game in one moment that I'm forgetting now. He's been quieter though, and my meta isn't calibrated, so I'm not willing to Bunny-level clear him.
Jamie - I'm probably high on being right about him last game but he's giving me legitimately good vibes this game.
Bunny
This is feeling like scum!ghug
analysis of congruence in reads and motives, especially around EOD votingbrainbomb wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:40 pmthe methodology of barking at everyone and repeating this person seems off yields pretty bad results too. At least a night kill actually happens. At least we can verify it happened. I cant verify that someone “seems off” unless ive poured thru 37 of these games did some monster ass meta case with fifty fuckin quotes only to have someone call it spam or not even read it anyway.
rather than yell at you what even is your system of finding mafia if you pay zero attention to motive for who the mafia is actively killinf