MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#1281 Post by Vecna » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:56 pm

DemonRHK wrote:
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worcej wrote:
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DemonRHK wrote:
Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:56 pm
I really think ND should be the lynch. Yavu maybe...but it's not optimal.
Why?
Why to which? ND has done nothing of value and I've pointed out before I like him for lurkscum. The same case can be made for Yavu, but he's not had the time in game that ND has (an extra 72 hours)
Have you actually ever see ND lurk as scum though? Because I can only remember ND being active and convincingly town as scum. Which I feel you should also be aware of. This ND just reminds me a lot of our small game where he was the easiest mislynch D1 because he often doesnt care as town.

Maybe he's just lifting on that, but he would be noticing as scum that it isnt working out the way he intends to.

Im pretty much leaning on ND simply being town here.

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#1282 Post by Durga » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:56 pm

Vecna wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:45 pm
Durga wrote:
Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:23 pm
I cannot fathom why I was roleblocked when I shot the cannon
Were you actually genuine in your gun claim? Or was there some roleswapping shenanigans going on? I did have a feeling that something was off with your claim. If you didnt actually have the gun, its probably wise to out that stuff since the RB would indicate that the chaqa shot was shot by scum.

Low likelyhood this actually happened, but you never know. Would at least make the rb make sense.
Yeah I had a gun and I shot Chaqa. I claimed because I figured I'd be able to use it anytime at night and get us some info, I retracted when I found out that wasn't the case just so scum didn't think I had it. But I shot Chaqa. There was no trick here.

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#1283 Post by Vecna » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:59 pm

xorxes wrote:
Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:19 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:14 pm
If y2k stole a doc kit from bozo and used it on me hed be cleared to the end. Technically. Lol
Yeah, or if damo stole a birthday card from bozo too.
Then he'd just reveal he was scum because it reveals allignment

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#1284 Post by Vecna » Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:04 pm

ghug wrote:
Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:29 pm
Y'all need to spend less time thinking about where items could be and more time thinking about the game.

Relevant item information:
Barring counterclaim, brain and y2k are conftown
Damo is town unless RHK is scum
Flash is very likely town
Durga is likely town

That's it

We just lynched scum, and another one flipped. That's where we're going to catch the next scum too. If you want to vote for me for that, go right ahead. If you want to vote for me for this Alex Jones item bullshit, feel free to go fuck yourself.

Excluding myself and those soft- or hard- cleared listed above, we have two scum in:
DemonRHK
ND
rdrivera2005
yavuzovic
Tom Bombadil
Vecna
worcej
xorxes

Xorxes has either improved drastically at feigning effort as scum (entirely possible, but less likely than the alternative), or is town. Worcej had an organic reaction to brain's claim and then went hard on Squigs all day, so I'm pretty comfortable clearing him too. My logic clearing Vecna for the Squigs reads stands. We should be lynching between the other five and me at least today and probably tomorrow as well. Add Vecna back in if you don't buy my logic, but it's great logic, so you should just listen it me.

I think Rivera is the likeliest scum of the group and RHK the least likely. I could be talked into lynching any of the other three if Rivera is no fly, but I'd rather just kill him.
What logic between me and squigs is this Ghug? I think I mustve missed it

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#1285 Post by Vecna » Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:05 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:31 pm
Thanks Xorxes and Flash. This clears Damo and also give town points to RHK.
Why lol? Why does it give townpoints to RHK?

What do you think is gonna happen to RHK if he didnt claim the birthday card?

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#1286 Post by yavuzovic » Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:09 pm

Oh no damo, go correct your +1 before jamie and bo see it

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#1287 Post by yavuzovic » Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:11 pm

y2kjbk wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:26 am
So right now, my thinking on Durga and flash is that Durga is town that wanted to help town coming forward with her cannon N0, and flash is scum with a cannon that saw brainbomb's guilty scan as an opportunity for town-cred. ##VOTE flash
I think this is forcing your brain to find a way to accuse flash. I find flash pretty towny and didn't like this forced read.
##vote y2k

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#1288 Post by flash2015 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:12 pm

y2kjbk wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:30 am
If flash was actually town, why wouldn't he have let Durga, who already claimed her cannon, see if she wanted to blast MF, and he could stay hidden?
Remember, Durga had retracted her claim to the cannon just before EON so at the time I wasn't really sure Durga had a gun or whether she was potentially bluffing. I got excited at the possibility of taking out scum so early (and if BB was lying voting for him D1), so I used my cannon on Moscow.

But as I have said before, it would probably have been far more helpful to town if I had waited. We could have seen if Durga would really shoot Moscow...rather than uselessly shooting Chaqa. We could have seen who would try and discredit BB. Moscow himself may have given us more hints on his scum partners as he tried to defend himself. If Durga had shot Moscow, I would likely have shot Squigs an hour or two before the EOD giving us a third chance at hitting scum D1.

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#1289 Post by yavuzovic » Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:13 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:18 am
I still think that we have a better chance to hit scum on Ghug. ##vote Ghug
Assuming he damo did it accidentally, I won't make a case about +1ing this post. No mafia would play that explicit.

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#1290 Post by damo666 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:16 pm

yavuzovic wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:09 pm
Oh no damo, go correct your +1 before jamie and bo see it
Eh?

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#1291 Post by Vecna » Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:18 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:50 am
Are you guys seeing what im seeing here? Look at these posts.
its quite the interesting set of observations brain.

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#1292 Post by yavuzovic » Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:18 pm

Last 29th post. Is ee you +1d it

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#1293 Post by flash2015 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:20 pm

yavuzovic wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:11 pm
y2kjbk wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:26 am
So right now, my thinking on Durga and flash is that Durga is town that wanted to help town coming forward with her cannon N0, and flash is scum with a cannon that saw brainbomb's guilty scan as an opportunity for town-cred. ##VOTE flash
I think this is forcing your brain to find a way to accuse flash. I find flash pretty towny and didn't like this forced read.
##vote y2k
So you are suggesting that y2k faked his nurse kit claim? Someone else saved BB? If yes, why haven't they announced this? Or are you suggesting that scum held their NK to allow y2k to fake claim?

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#1294 Post by xorxes » Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:20 pm

Vecna wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:59 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:19 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:14 pm
If y2k stole a doc kit from bozo and used it on me hed be cleared to the end. Technically. Lol
Yeah, or if damo stole a birthday card from bozo too.
Then he'd just reveal he was scum because it reveals allignment
BIRTHDAY CARD - You may pay a friendly visit to a player of your choice at night. PM both GMs in the format ##VISIT [TARGET]. They will be aware of your visit, and you will reveal your alignment to them. Optionally you may write a message of up to 10 words in the birthday card, if you wish. This will be revealed to the target as well.

So it does. This setup is so pro-town though. Is there any item that gives Mafia any advantage?

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#1295 Post by yavuzovic » Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:21 pm

I will vote ND. He really doesn't contribute as town.
##vote ND
If he rolls scum, I will do everything to kill Vecna for this ↓
Vecna wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:56 pm
DemonRHK wrote:
Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:00 pm
Why to which? ND has done nothing of value and I've pointed out before I like him for lurkscum. The same case can be made for Yavu, but he's not had the time in game that ND has (an extra 72 hours)
Have you actually ever see ND lurk as scum though? Because I can only remember ND being active and convincingly town as scum. Which I feel you should also be aware of. This ND just reminds me a lot of our small game where he was the easiest mislynch D1 because he often doesnt care as town.

Maybe he's just lifting on that, but he would be noticing as scum that it isnt working out the way he intends to.

Im pretty much leaning on ND simply being town here.

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#1296 Post by damo666 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:21 pm

On mobile. If I did was accident. Post no.?

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#1297 Post by Vecna » Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:22 pm

DemonRHK wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:46 am
Holy shit that actually makes a lot of sense.

ghug claimed his item was stolen, but never said WHAT was stolen until AFTER the shot. He knew MF had the head and he could safely claim it after he died.

Scum may have rb'd, killed, and robbed bozo, thinking he had a key item on his silence. And the may have even got a Doc Kit holy fuck that would be some 6D checkers though.
quite a redeeming post. dont know if scum goes this allin on moonlogic

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#1298 Post by flash2015 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:23 pm

damo666 wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:21 pm
On mobile. If I did was accident. Post no.?
While you are here Damo, why did you send the card to DemonRHK instead of BB? DemonRHK was not confirmed town.

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#1299 Post by yavuzovic » Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:23 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:18 am
Well, I had some time and re-read Flash and Durga considering Brain's theories. I still think Flash is a stretch. He looks the same as last game and his Moscow shoot as scum only make sense if Durga is also scum.

And this is a possibility, re-reading her seems that Brain have a point, I don't see much effort other then defending himself and calling other people stupid. The reasons that makes me think she isn't scum is that I can't see her and Ghug on the same team and that I don't believe she will claim the cannon at N0 that way. All things considered, I still think she isn't a good choice to lynch now.

I still think that we have a better chance to hit scum on Ghug. ##vote Ghug
This one, I can't say post number because I use a different order of posts.

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#1300 Post by xorxes » Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:24 pm

yavuzovic wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:11 pm

I think this is forcing your brain to find a way to accuse flash. I find flash pretty towny and didn't like this forced read.
##vote y2k
Yavu, y2k claimed he used a nurse-kit to save bb. Are you aware of that?

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