MAFIA 92 - The return of the Witchfinder General [GAME THREAD]

[BunnyGo]

fewer lurkers is a funner game tho, and an easier solve since the mafia usually wont pick them off

I find it suspicious that spirit shows up 20 minutes into n1

after panicking thinking I was at eod an hour early, I get it. The honest truth was I got absorbed into testing a princess focused lorcana deck and eating a whole ass french bread straight out of the bag. I ain't even going to try and make up a less embarrassing reason, thats just what happened

This is probably all true. And setting off scumvibes for it somehow

[BunnyGo]

nope. You don't get to do that. townread worcej or don't.

TOWN

Worcej (reluctantly)

(reluctantly)
you are attempting to claim a townread on worcej to back up your sheeping worcej tomorrow but adding a * to distance yourself

I’m trying to see how town!D&W is thinking here. Why pick this fight? I don’t get it

[BunnyGo]

Haven’t caught up anything except to see the bot. Was at services and will be taking a break from screens for Shabbat. But that was a dumb*** choice fellow townspeople.

I tried to counterwagon worcej!

Pretty dumb if you’re town…

[BunnyGo]

Haven’t caught up anything except to see the bot. Was at services and will be taking a break from screens for Shabbat. But that was a dumb*** choice fellow townspeople.

Why?

You went from 3 reasonable candidates (all for different but good reasons) and decided to flip none of them and instead scramble to someone who lurks as any alignment and flipped them. But thwir posts hadn’t been scummy, just not active. And now we have to wonder: did we have a scum on the block who was saved? Or we’re all candidates town?

But I don’t think we learned much letting all 3 off the hook.

[BunnyGo]

vibes

worecj - yeah town, but also isn't he the guy who would do that and then end up being mafia? I'm going to sit on my hands until day 5 when I repeat this argument, you all kill me and then go after him. My honest take when reading EoD was that I would have switched to him as a wagon, but also if ifs and buts could be candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry christmas

Dipandwar - He's totally scrambling in a way only a towny does. He's more freaked now than he was day 1, folks need to get over this.

Will - tbh I read him as town and he's tunneling. I'd be impressed if this was his mafia game but also he is supposed to be pretty good. Slight town.

Foodcoats - My fav choice for death, I think I got him trying to push a wagon he didn't care about on me, and he continues to not care about it.

Brainbomb - We're both 100% VT's and its getting to us. I have been wrong about him before, but I think this time he is wrong about me.

ND - He's a coin flip, only thing he did all day which can be judged, to me, is switching to red, could be self pres. I dont care about him, I've established he is a black hole of bullshit, let's move on

Mimi - I've gone back and forth silently a couple times, being a new player I felt they were mostly town in the beginning but the way they keep shifting their vote as kind of a follower trying to bring around pressure and hedging (something like: I'll move my vote as soon as I get an answer) doesn't feel right. But also new person, so I gotta given it some bandwidth, most malleable read going forward.

Vecna - He lurking, but less than normal? I feel like he feels town but I don't have a good scope of what mafia him looks like. Slight town for now.

KingofPirates - I just like his vibe, pretty high in town rankings for me, he analysis feels genuine and I voted along with him on red in spite of foodcoats being on it too because I bought the vibe of him.

damo - guy I have a hard time reading, and usually scum read in isolation. Kind of null on him this game. Which probably leans town when I throw away my bias

bozo - felt off this game, I normally agree with most of the things he says, and now it feels like he is not being his normal self. I can't tell if its that he showed up late and is just going through the motions or not, but I have scum vibes

Bunny - I usually read him as scum, isolating for bias i think he is coming off more towny this game but also hasnt done anything of note besides throw up a vote on dip and staying there, he didn't like dip theorizing about will and bozo ganging up on ghug? yeah but theyre also the two guys who sling every possibility out there and try and make sense of it. Filtering my bias, slight town, def in character

Ghug and RHK - They have nothing to link them, I just feel the same way about them, generally reading them as more scummy then usual, respecting their game enough to think they'd be doing more normally. Ghug was poking me and ND for wagon potential early, ghug does that as town and scum to see who takes the bait, but the dip and worecj votes I don't buy a town ghug doing as much. The vote for worcej with the "i think he's town though" is either the kind of thing scum ghug does or is a bridge too far for town ghug to do in order to increase his plausible bandwidth of town behavior for future scum games where I think he deserves to die for it. RHK's votes all screamed like of conviction and gives off the vibe of someone going throw the motions to seem active enough to not draw suspicion but has no desire to contribute in any meaningful way to the game. I could see this as a mafia trying to end up where other mafia aren't when the hammer comes down or a 3rd party who is just trying to fly under the radar. I usually don't see rhk as scummy, but he has been since the get go for me. I think one of ghug or rhk is probably the last of the 3 mafia between them. Maybe one is mafia, one is 3rd party.

Tl;dr: a fair bit of town reads, besides mimi and ND who are coin flips, foodcoats and bozo are probably scum, ghug and rhk are my picks for 3rd scum or 3rd party. If worcej lives a long time, he is probably a sly 3rd scum tho

I’m really looking forward to how his reads develop from here

[BunnyGo]

Poor red. Probably best he didn't PR claim, he would probably have been the NK anyway and we would just have killed another town (probably). He should have made the requested statement though.

I don't think there's much to learn from late votes.

I'm curious why Bunny stayed off the 2 main wagons.

I guess worcej has guaranteed his survival to D2.

Because the last time I logged on my vote was potentially useful. And we’re interviewing for a new rabbi so I can’t exactly play in services…

[BunnyGo]

To be succinct it was probably TvTvT

vTvT?

If all 5 viable wagons were town…we have the game in an interesting place

[BunnyGo]

Alright let's solve.

Will/bozo/food

Spirit is the 3P.

gg go next

Demon for prez…send it

I rather like this theory. Will have to keep it in mind

[BunnyGo]

I'm probably gonna not be around all day.

Think worcej is probably town. Will likely is too if worcej is because he voted for him there at the end after defending him and there's no reason scum does that to town over another town.

I've been finding Dip irritating but I don't think it's actually scummy.
I've been finding Bunny not irritating which I do think is actually scummy.
Mimi is the foxcastle sort of new player we're going to be thanks to scumread if she is scum.

If I die kill bozo or ND because they deserve it.

What were you saying about mimi?

And you’re right, I’ve achieved my scumtell this game, but I think it’s because of the sabbatical.

[SpiritoftheRadio]

If one of these witch accusers can come up with a witch test, I'll take it and pass. I'm willing to do anything short of posting feet pics in the thread.

[BunnyGo]

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ND-Mimi not scummates

[BunnyGo]

If one of these witch accusers can come up with a witch test, I'll take it and pass. I'm willing to do anything short of posting feet pics in the thread.

Too bad, hiding warty feet is a sure sign you’re a witch

[BunnyGo]

I missed EOD but on re-read I find worcej’s behaviour around his wagon, and his reaction to the flip… weird?

How so?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Hte gaggles

[DemonRHK]

Will, can I ask about your EoD1? I'm sorry if you answered, I can't be hecked at this hour to look atm.

You never gave a read on Red (Ngl, a read on ANYONE I can realistically find for being top poster D1), and right at EoD you said 'yea worc is just town', then voted him anyway. Why worc who you saw as town over Red?

[BunnyGo]

Welp rereading I see that food didnt even post in those pages and the posts I was thinking of were all by spirit not food. So, guess ill remember better next time

@brain, were you drunkenly suggesting here that your mistaken and naked vote on food when you thought he was someone else is incriminating now because nobody joined you and the conversation ignored you?

I got lost in the sauce day 1 when I initially felt like food was scum; it seems like multiple people came to his aid as soon as I scumread him and then the moment I realized id confused his posts with spirits everyone who dissauded a push on food applauded a push on spirit alternatively. And yet looking back foods posts were patently low in quality, sporadic and lacking in depth.

Posts 132 and 135 seem to be in direct contention by talking mech then denouncing mech talk moments later

[foodcoats]

happy worcej because his strategy is working?

in my experience scum Worcej is a lot more involved day1 to get people to townread him. He usually puts in a lot of effort in sounding towny.

Im not sure if thats what were seeing here, but Ghugs assuredness that that is what this is does not ring accurate.

But I guess im just not building a concensus with hivemind ghug

Deeper and deeper…

The range of ghug, worcej, and Vecna for votes today feels good to me.

this post is also rather worrying if worcej does flip scum at some point.

I dont see that happening at all, but this could definately be presorting from a scum pov thinking worcej looks mightily scummy atm since he got such a big wagon last night. (hint; he doesnt)

For the record, after all that… I think the weirdest/most notable interaction was you coaching worcej after the flip. My tinfoiling is just speculation. But in the end I could see worcej and ghug town and you (Vec) scum most likely of all the muck I threw at the wall.

[foodcoats]

Need to now catch up from page 53…

After re-reading D1 I think Vecna had some weird interactions with worcej that town Vecna would not make. There’s also some weird interactions of ghug with worcej, but in hindsight I don’t think there’s as… misplaced. Basically it seems like Vecna scumread and voted for worcej but, after Red flipped, decided worcej was town incredibly quickly, in a way that doesn’t feel natural and sounds more like buddying. It just doesn’t square for me that Vecna’s takeaway there is to brake on worcej and tell him… not to get himself scumread? It seems that if Vecna was town he would be upset with worcej irrespective of the flip.

##VOTE Vecna

did you even read the game? Did you actually check whether I got upset with Worcej?

because this post strongly implies you did not even read what happened after EoD. Youre just trying to find reasons to scumread me.

Worcej was active at Eod1. He did not claim a PR while he was about to die. He stayed very cool and collected. And yes, im convinced he's town due to that.

Yes, I literally re-read the game yesterday.

But, okay, I understand your explanation.

[foodcoats]

I dont really wanna pile on foodcoats and create a runaway wagon yet, but that is some terrible terrible posting.

almost too bad to come from scum

There’s no need to be a jerk because you disagree with me. It’s a game. Have a chocolate bar or something.

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

If one of these witch accusers can come up with a witch test, I'll take it and pass. I'm willing to do anything short of posting feet pics in the thread.

We hang you. If you die, you're innocent. If you survived, it's because you used witchcraft and we burn you.