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Have your surveys EVER caught scum?bozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 4:37 amThere is a new survey, please provide your scum pool, up to 4 players.
i think townies would be less afraid to draw attention to ourselves, but a scum is trying to hide something and would want to be more careful with their words -- could lead to a strategy where they blend more into the shadows, try and be ignored as long as possibleBonatogether wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 11:50 amexplique s'il vous plait
why are town more likely to stand out (or why are scum less likely to stand out)?
If I vote for worcej now, the wagon will balloon and people will go "woe is me there's NO WAY scum wagon would be so large, we must panic and vote out someone else in the last hour!"
Oh I’ve just been hella busy the last couple days, but my scum pool is something like bona worcej heart and then bozo or damobozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 2:58 pmMaybe lfischl, who like Kakarroto, is holding their vote for late in D3.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 2:56 pmIt is interesting, at least to me, that everyone I have in my scum pool are scum reading me. That probably means I am missing at least one scum, but I am not sure who that would be.
Shoot not worcej sorry heart bona bozo damo, In that orderlfischl wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 4:20 pmOh I’ve just been hella busy the last couple days, but my scum pool is something like bona worcej heart and then bozo or damobozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 2:58 pmMaybe lfischl, who like Kakarroto, is holding their vote for late in D3.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 2:56 pmIt is interesting, at least to me, that everyone I have in my scum pool are scum reading me. That probably means I am missing at least one scum, but I am not sure who that would be.
i townread bozobozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 2:38 pmI am going to fill in some information for the missing players based on what they said so far D3. Anyone can repost this if they want to update their scum pool. The posts below are the sources for what I have added.
scum pool (up to 4):
bozo: Bonatogether, Chaqa, damo, Kakarroto
Chaqa: bo_sox, bozo, damo, worcej
damo: Chaqa, lfischl, Bonatogether, bozo
bo_sox: damo, worcej, lfischl
worcej: Bonatogether, Kakarroto, damo, heartthrob
heartthrob: (Chaqa, damo, worcej)
Kakarroto: (worcej, bozo, Chaqa, damo)
Bonatogether: (bo_sox, bozo, damo, worcej)
lfischl: (worcej, heartthrob)
heartthrob24909 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 3:31 pm1. Chaqa or damo but not both, because of this feudbozotheclown wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 12:16 pmWith only one mis-kill left, I think it would be a good idea to have everyone go on record with their scum pool, up to 4:
bozo: Bonatogether, Chaqa, damo, Kakarroto
Chaqa: bo_sox, bozo, damo, worcej
2. worcej, because i have a foggier idea of where they stand compared to some others like bona which i'm more confident about being town
3. Even though I place trust in bozotheclown and his survey i could be swayed on him bc of how the celaph vote turned out, even though i voted for celaph too.
4. bo_sox strikes me as aggressive but not necessarily mafia, lol.
5. I think that leaves Kak and lfisch
i'm gonna brainstorm this Q to try and come up with a solid guess of 4 but that's where my head is at in generalKakarroto wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 4:21 pmI've been looking at the surviving ones and thinking about it, the most mafia-ness comes currently from worcej. I'm not so sure about bozo, bo has scratched my radar too. I'm still not sure if that isn't just too easy of a mafia team.
I'm getting strange vibes from heartthrob but celaph was convinced they are town, so maybe I just take up some wrong stuff (or maybe I shouldn't trust too much in dead town reads).
Strangely enough, I see Chaqa and damo on the same level, they could be mafia, but right now I wouldn't be able to point it out.
Is bona actually my top candidate for town? I can't believe it, but after RD's death, yeah, seems so. Even with the same pattern of being the driving force for two town ejections, which if this continues is a sign for maf bona, but town bona was in the past also responsible for one or two miss-ejections.
I really should have a reread and a focussed look on lfischl. Currently they are in a fog area between heartthrob and bona, but I couldn't even vaguely say where.lfischl wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 4:01 amI would be good with this as well, or heartBonatogether wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 2:37 ami would be fine with either a bozo or worcej vote
##vote worcej for competitiveness
now why am i in thislfischl wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 4:27 pmShoot not worcej sorry heart bona bozo damo, In that orderlfischl wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 4:20 pmOh I’ve just been hella busy the last couple days, but my scum pool is something like bona worcej heart and then bozo or damobozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 2:58 pm
Maybe lfischl, who like Kakarroto, is holding their vote for late in D3.
i don't followbozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 2:56 pmIt is interesting, at least to me, that everyone I have in my scum pool are scum reading me. That probably means I am missing at least one scum, but I am not sure who that would be.
if you apply that to this game, what do you get? interested to see how you reason it throughheartthrob24909 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 3:52 pmi think townies would be less afraid to draw attention to ourselves, but a scum is trying to hide something and would want to be more careful with their words -- could lead to a strategy where they blend more into the shadows, try and be ignored as long as possibleBonatogether wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 11:50 amexplique s'il vous plait
why are town more likely to stand out (or why are scum less likely to stand out)?
The scum pool survey has proven useful in the past. For example, in M73 I did the same survey asking for a scum pool of 4 with 2 mafia remaining, and here were the results:
Fluminator and worcej were the remaining mafia in that game, so even though there were some town with the same level of suspicion, in that case the survey showed meaningful results. I always list the results in the order of response, so in M73 Fluminator and worcej being the last to respond also turned out to be scum indicative.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 9:27 pmHere are the final results from the scum suspect survey:
bozo: BusinessLamp, RHK, Sabi, worcej
Jamie: BusinessLamp, Sabi, worcej, RHK
RHK: BusinessLamp, Fluminator, Sabi, rdrivera
Bonatogether: BusinessLamp, bozo, RHK, rdrivera
Sabi: BusinessLamp, rdrivera, RHK, worcej
Chaqa: BusinessLamp, Fluminator, rdrivera, worcej
brainbomb: PE, Bona, Fluminator, Sabi
PE: Fluminator, RHK, worcej, rdrivera
rdrivera: Fluminator, Sabi, RHK, BusinessLamp
BusinessLamp: Chaqa, Sabi, Fluminator, Bona
pyxxy: Fluminator, rdrivera, RHK, worcej
Fluminator: RHK, Sabi, worcej, pyxxy
worcej: Sabi, Fluminator, BusinessLamp, brainbomb
BusinessLamp: 8
Fluminator: 8
RHK: 8
Sabi: 8
worcej: 7
rdrivera: 6
Bonatogether: 2
bozo: 1
brainbomb: 1
Chaqa: 1
PE: 1
pyxxy: 1
Jamie: 0
probably indicates scum are three from {bo, heart, Kak, fish}bozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 2:50 pmscum pool (up to 4):
bozo: Bonatogether, Chaqa, damo, Kakarroto
Chaqa: bo_sox, bozo, damo, worcej
damo: Chaqa, lfischl, Bonatogether, bozo
bo_sox: damo, worcej, lfischl
worcej: Bonatogether, Kakarroto, damo, heartthrob
heartthrob: (Chaqa, damo, worcej)
Kakarroto: (worcej, bozo, Chaqa, damo)
Bonatogether: (bo_sox, bozo, damo, worcej)
lfischl: (worcej, heartthrob)
Here is the tabulated result for what I have so far.
damo: 7
worcej: 6
bozo: 4
Chaqa: 4
Bonatogether: 3
bo_sox: 2
heartthrob: 2
Kakarroto: 2
lfischl: 2
a tad overthink?heartthrob24909 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 3:52 pmi think townies would be less afraid to draw attention to ourselves, but a scum is trying to hide something and would want to be more careful with their words -- could lead to a strategy where they blend more into the shadows, try and be ignored as long as possibleBonatogether wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 11:50 amexplique s'il vous plait
why are town more likely to stand out (or why are scum less likely to stand out)?