M1009 [HIDDEN]

[foodcoats]

Well, the obvious motivation would be to save scum Bozo. Another possibility is to make sure a town Worcej that suspects you get lynched and leave alive a town Bpzo that's either another possible myslynch and that is aligned with you.

What do you think about the goldfinger and Tom vote changes? I had 2 long post about them that no one seems to care about.

Tom voting Worcej is NAI, he was voting to save his own neck, which is the obvious play as either town or scum.

Gold vote is suspicious. Food and him changed the result with his votes. Gold get an extra scum point for using the "I don't like the lack of movements" card to justify it.

I don't believe both are scum, but one of them is very possible I was townreading Food since D1, but his EOD and the current day where he seems to be just throwing things in the air to see what sticks are scummy.

At this point I am scumreading everybody, my townreads are all dead, but Food and he is acting scummy today.

Anyway, I think the lynch today should be Tom or Xorxes, I can't see how both are town and I think there is a good chance both are scum.

I didn't know reading d1 on d3 is scum indicative.

[foodcoats]

@foodcoats - why did you plug a vote on Jamiet?

Over defensiveness about the mass claim was scummy and I got a hunch rereading him, it's all piss and no vinegar.

[foodcoats]

Greetings, Kakarroto! Have you been away long?

Surely, bozo's thinking is that... BOZO IS SCUM!

##VOTE bozotheclown

This is the first post of the game by foodcoats. If he is town, he is showing a pattern of confirmation bias, scum reading me for voting for Nephthys D1 (who he was also voting for), because I "misled people quite seriously" with an obvious joke, and "withdrawing outright lies after EOD" talking about a post I made before EOD. I think it is more likely foodcoats is scum making up reasons to scum read me, since I do not believe foodcoats would scum read me for these reasons as town.

As a point of reference, I remember what I believe was the first game foodcoats played on this site, M1005. foodcoats nailed the entire scum team by D2, as demonstrated in the following post:

TOWN
Drcjcj
worcej
foodcoats
jamiet99uk
bozo


scum
xorx
tdhfrance
neph

I really like your posts today brain, I am following and it sounds right. I would substitute Jamie for thd in your scum list though.

##VOTE xorxes

I think we should have a xorxes and a Jamie wagon, or a xorxes/Jamie wagon and a thd wagon. I still think that if thd was mafia thd would have said something at this point. They've visited the site in the last 24 hours though, and I certainly don't think a townie would think the best defense is silence.

But I feel better voting for xorxes than for jamie or for thd at the moment; I still think those counter-wagons would be revealing in terms of seeing who gets on what.

This was probably the most impressive town performance I have seen in a game of mafia. Jamie, brainbomb, xorxes, and rdrivera should remember that game well, in fact it was the game Jamie and xorxes were discussing earlier.

My first post of this game was an attempt to have some fun. I have never said your random voting at the start was scum indicative. And I haven't confirmed anything so there's no bias. I came around on my read of you because you tunnelled Chaqfinger on a spurious basis. It reminds me of how scum!coats tunnelled EspressoPatronum in the game I was scum (mass extinction I believe)... once you pop its hard to stop.

Anyway I did miss the timing when I read some of your comments, so I apologize for the error. I still feel you let that go a little long and again I truly believed you had dredged up something between Kak and Chaq, and like I said I was expecting it to be revealed as two people cracking wise. So to find out so much later that you just think Chaqa was lying about not knowing Kak... eh, weak.

[foodcoats]

So im only up to page 25 but I think I've picked up a few things:

-emc went on about chipotle way too much to be likely scum. I think scum!emc would be like "i should cool it on these burrito jokes" two jokes earlier.
-i haven't read brain yet but flav was super scummy.
-rdr was way too humble about the townslip attributed to them. They refuted it over multiple posts. Im starting to wonder if it isn't an attempt at reverse psychology from scum!rdr

That all said I have a very strong inkling that the answer is to

##VOTE Jamiet99uk

Yo, yo, yo, yo.

What warmed-up garbage is this?

You mention three people. Yeah? None of the people you mention, are me.

Then you vote me. No explanation. No reasoning. Having previously town-read me. Hard times for Jamie the T, let me tell ya.

I do not like the smell of this, brother. No way.

Explained to goldfinger but basically you were overdefensive about massclaiming which is a joke in this setup and you play in like every mafia game here. Why did you care so much? I think Flav called you out about it being inconsistent with the stance you'd taken other times and then it goes on and on on d1 about this total joke. It's like you made a joke saying "i will lynch anyone who mass claims" but then somehow grew afraid it was going to tank you. That's scumfear in my opinion.

[foodcoats]

So according to Foodcoats, the scumteam is me, emc and Rdrivera.

He therefore must think ALL of Bozo, Tom, Goldfinger and Xorxes are town.

Hhmmmm.

I saw brain say this at some point, and brain may have been the one who taught me this in the first game I ever played:

Get one. Then get the others.

I'm not looking for the team yet. The players here are far too sophisticated. We need one, then we get the team.

So if you think my scumteam makes no sense it's because I don't believe in hunting that way because it's WIFOM.

[foodcoats]

So im only up to page 25 but I think I've picked up a few things:

-emc went on about chipotle way too much to be likely scum. I think scum!emc would be like "i should cool it on these burrito jokes" two jokes earlier.
-i haven't read brain yet but flav was super scummy.
-rdr was way too humble about the townslip attributed to them. They refuted it over multiple posts. Im starting to wonder if it isn't an attempt at reverse psychology from scum!rdr

That all said I have a very strong inkling that the answer is to

##VOTE Jamiet99uk

Are you concerned with goldfinger and Tom?

I mentioned it at some point but I think I gave Chaqfinger too much of a pass D1. I just didn't find anything terribly unusual or scummy except that cop fish.

I really don't see anything scummy about Tom, but I've only played with Tom once so I have no meta. So sans meta, Tom is town.

[foodcoats]

@food: out of the blue question for you: when you are scum, do you tend to bus your teammates, defend them or ignore them? Most people tend to ignore them, that's what I do for the most part, but some people enjoy bussing, and some people even do some active defending.

I talk to them about Gloomhaven and share cake recipes.

[foodcoats]

You're either rice or the fajita veggie toppings. Unlikely to be guac. Not sure yet, we'll see. Carrots potentially, I suppose.

The amount of Chipotle posts from emc is absurd. But I guess that is probably NAI. Maybe even indicative that emc is town..
would emc waste sooooo much time making these jokes if emc was scum?

He probably would. The game I remember of him as scum is one where me and teacon went town-ballistic against each other and emc just made innocuous comments cheering for each of us in turn.

I thought emc's D1 was towny enough, but I do wish he would make some contributions, if not by voting at least some reads because he usually picks on some interesting stuff when he tries.

Hmmmm okay, that's good to know. Almost everything else about emc is low level scummy, I just find it hard to accept that the level of hapless joking could be so high from scum. It was D1 though.

[foodcoats]

Are there any other data points against rivera?
lurking?
hedging?
pr fishing?
obfuscation?
misrepresentation?
chainsawwing?
shitposting?

I caught him not reading very carefully at least twice. And a bit of a tunnel on me, but that's NAI really.

I am not tunneling you. I just can't read you. If I am tunneling someone, it's Tom.
And I was wrong that you saved Tom, you just used the movement Foid and Gold generated to get Worcej lynched. What makes me scumread is that I think you are too good to really believe on that bullshit about the Worcej reaction test. You are always the first to ask people to look for motivation, but you just fail to address what scum motivation might be behind that. And like I pointed more then once, there is none. I just can't believe you can't see this.

##vote Xorxes

@Brain - Could you look at the posts where Worcej claimed he had done a reaction test and see if this can warrant such a strong scumread to the point of tunneling that Xorxes did?

This is a good point and is also the reason I think xorxes might be scum. That whole reaction test thing was incredibly convoluted. It's the kind of absurdly tiny almost irrelevant detail that scum need to latch onto.

[foodcoats]

NO REACTION TESTS

Clipping this because Flavius ALSO told bozo not to use metaknowledge to hunt a little before this. Buddy was literally shutting down anyone attempting to build a hunting framework... while loading the thread with noise. Looking super scummy.

Yes the problem is that Flavius is a noisy idiot as town, we've seen it.

Okay, fair enough, good to know this.

[foodcoats]

Why did you truncate my post like that? I went through everyone and evaluated how happy they seemed with that position, not just the people voting for Tom.

I don't like long quotes. Creates a mess of a page. And I don't think I cut off anything material. Because analyzing each person's supposed state of mind at EOD doesn't really mean anything when nobody was willing to move. If someone says "I don't like this, I don't like this" but doesn't do anything, does that mean that they weren't happy with the wagons as they were? No, it just gives them justification to go back and say "Look, see I told you guys so!" afterwards.

I said people were content with the state of the wagons because nobody was moving or posting until I primed them. Analyzing people who didn't take any action doesn't refute that.

I will quote this in my defense as well. I guess if Tom is scum then hang me (I think that's who Im defending supposedly?) but I'm town, and I moved D2 because I felt an oppressive wrongness. My move to xorxes was a digital scream.

[foodcoats]

I am content to stay on Jaime for now. Xorxes is a good lynch also. I think my scum buddy Tom is a bad lynch.

[Jamiet99uk]

So im only up to page 25 but I think I've picked up a few things:

-emc went on about chipotle way too much to be likely scum. I think scum!emc would be like "i should cool it on these burrito jokes" two jokes earlier.
-i haven't read brain yet but flav was super scummy.
-rdr was way too humble about the townslip attributed to them. They refuted it over multiple posts. Im starting to wonder if it isn't an attempt at reverse psychology from scum!rdr

That all said I have a very strong inkling that the answer is to

##VOTE Jamiet99uk

Yo, yo, yo, yo.

What warmed-up garbage is this?

You mention three people. Yeah? None of the people you mention, are me.

Then you vote me. No explanation. No reasoning. Having previously town-read me. Hard times for Jamie the T, let me tell ya.

I do not like the smell of this, brother. No way.

Explained to goldfinger but basically you were overdefensive about massclaiming which is a joke in this setup and you play in like every mafia game here. Why did you care so much? I think Flav called you out about it being inconsistent with the stance you'd taken other times and then it goes on and on on d1 about this total joke. It's like you made a joke saying "i will lynch anyone who mass claims" but then somehow grew afraid it was going to tank you. That's scumfear in my opinion.

FOOD COATINGS, let me TALK to ya.

Point the first. Riddle me this: Why did you plonk a vote on me and then run away without providing an explanation? Not helpful behaviour. Yeah?

Point the second. Jamie the T was not "over defensive". No way, brother. Let me tell you what went down.

Little pissypants Flavius Spammius made a completely inaccurate assertion about my conduct in regard to Xorxes' massclaim plan in the previous game. I corrected him. Despite my correction his inability to comprehend WORDS caused him to continue to make inaccurate remarks. Thus I had to put him right and I had to make it CLEAR because he is long on NOISE and short on BRAINS. Yeah?

YEAH.

You look at EVERY DAMN GAME I have ever played and I will ALWAYS correct ANY damn FOOL who makes inaccurate, egregious, or downright falsificated statements about me. ALWAYS. I won't stand for such crap and you shouldn't expect me to. You see me defending my good name and it's N. fucking A. fucking I.

I'm glad I was able to clear that up for ya. Yeah?

YEAH.

[Jamiet99uk]

I am content to stay on Jaime for now. Xorxes is a good lynch also. I think my scum buddy Tom is a bad lynch.

"MY SCUMBUDDY TOM"

YOUR SCUMBUDDY?

OH REALLY?

[rdrivera2005]

Anyway, I don't see any other lynch today that isn't Tom or Xorxes.

How about lynching Tom then? xorxes bussing Tom would be an atypical scum move for him.

Was he really bussing? He bailed out on the first chance.

But fine ##vote Tom

[rdrivera2005]

What do you think about the goldfinger and Tom vote changes? I had 2 long post about them that no one seems to care about.

Tom voting Worcej is NAI, he was voting to save his own neck, which is the obvious play as either town or scum.

Gold vote is suspicious. Food and him changed the result with his votes. Gold get an extra scum point for using the "I don't like the lack of movements" card to justify it.

I don't believe both are scum, but one of them is very possible I was townreading Food since D1, but his EOD and the current day where he seems to be just throwing things in the air to see what sticks are scummy.

At this point I am scumreading everybody, my townreads are all dead, but Food and he is acting scummy today.

Anyway, I think the lynch today should be Tom or Xorxes, I can't see how both are town and I think there is a good chance both are scum.

I didn't know reading d1 on d3 is scum indicative.

It's not, but just throwing quotes and not following with a case seems just trying to distract town.
Did you read Brain post about how he plays as scum? It looks like what you were doing today.

[goldfinger0303]

I really don't think xorxes was bussing because I don't think Tom is scum. Day end was just too silent. D2 was between all town and scum!xorxes is just happy as a clam having set up a niiice town lynch for D3 and watching us consume ourselves in nonsense. Maybe his scumbuddy is foodcoats. The choice of xorxes' to place a token vote on might be important. Maybe not. But once xorx saw town changing votes, he felt more than comfortable enough to do the same, to silence the person he was tunneling on and who was trying to wake town up. And then he proceeded to post OMGUS scumreads during the night.

Bozo, Jamiet. You two are my top town reads as of now (because I'm assuming nobody will listen to what Tom says). Do you see this as plausible?

[Jamiet99uk]

I really don't think xorxes was bussing because I don't think Tom is scum. Day end was just too silent. D2 was between all town and scum!xorxes is just happy as a clam having set up a niiice town lynch for D3 and watching us consume ourselves in nonsense. Maybe his scumbuddy is foodcoats. The choice of xorxes' to place a token vote on might be important. Maybe not. But once xorx saw town changing votes, he felt more than comfortable enough to do the same, to silence the person he was tunneling on and who was trying to wake town up. And then he proceeded to post OMGUS scumreads during the night.

Bozo, Jamiet. You two are my top town reads as of now (because I'm assuming nobody will listen to what Tom says). Do you see this as plausible?

Is it plausible? I guess it's plausible
Am I convinced you are right? No.

[e.m.c^42]

I am alive. Catching up. Feel free to yell obscenities and repost any inquiries.

[Jamiet99uk]

I am content to stay on Jaime for now. Xorxes is a good lynch also. I think my scum buddy Tom is a bad lynch.

Can we all just pay attention to this post pleaze?