Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:56 pm
What are the pairs? I assume rdr is the lowest common denominator in these?
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What are the pairs? I assume rdr is the lowest common denominator in these?
The point of my question was obviously to determine why you did not considering voting for Kakarroto, since he is confirmed as mafia. Your focusing on your vote for TFB makes it seem like you are diverting attention from the fact that your actions at EOD can be interpreted as an attempt to same Kakarroto.
I would understand your thoughts better if it wasn’t D1 and early in the game when there is information to be processed and that would be a distraction.Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:02 pmI don't think it's an explicit thing. I think it's a subtle opportunity. It goes back to my "filling the room" theory. Which is probably such a stupid idea anyway, but this is where I am at today.worcej wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 3:58 pm
Can I ask why you would think me engaging with Jamie as he was engaging with you is explicitly scummy? I can see how, if you were another 3rd party here, that it could look like I was defending you in that instance, but it’s weird to see you have so much thought on that interaction with Jamie.
Which is why I am taking some other looks at interactions because I am worried that I have focused so much on you that I've dug a hole and can't reliably see anything else.
Is your basis here that one would buddy and one would detract?KoalaAttack wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:24 pmI do have 1 thought: if there are 2 Mafias left, based on reactions to me, I think there is one Mafia in Flum, HB, worcej (what did brainbomb called me doing to Damo last game?) and one Mafia in everyone else (annoyed with me) to spread their eggs among baskets
I did not consider voting for him because I did not scumread him, whilst I did scumread you, and you were a viable wagon, so that's where I was.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:57 pmThe point of my question was obviously to determine why you did not considering voting for Kakarroto, since he is confirmed as mafia. Your focusing on your vote for TFB makes it seem like you are diverting attention from the fact that your actions at EOD can be interpreted as an attempt to same Kakarroto.
OK, if you are town, and timing of you vote for me was a coincidence, which is certainly possible, you are wrong about me, and you seem to not be considering any other possible scum suspects.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:53 pmNo, I just didn't want there to be any confusion.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:51 pmI think that is accurate, but you re-voting me at 51 minutes before EOD, which was properly recorded by the bot, suggests you considered your vote a valid TFB vote.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:44 pm
I was voting for "TheBozotheclown" which, based on other comments you have made today, ought to have been considered a valid vote for you, Bozo, ought it not?
Therefore in actual fact I was voting for you well before the above sequence happened.
Sincerely and honestly, I had no strong read on Kak. I was certainly not attempting to save him because I am not his team-mate. I was simply voting and pushing a scumread. That scumread is you.
After my bath I will look for your partner.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 7:00 pmOK, if you are town, and timing of you vote for me was a coincidence, which is certainly possible, you are wrong about me, and you seem to not be considering any other possible scum suspects.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:53 pmNo, I just didn't want there to be any confusion.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:51 pm
I think that is accurate, but you re-voting me at 51 minutes before EOD, which was properly recorded by the bot, suggests you considered your vote a valid TFB vote.
Sincerely and honestly, I had no strong read on Kak. I was certainly not attempting to save him because I am not his team-mate. I was simply voting and pushing a scumread. That scumread is you.
Currently in the pub for the afternoon.worcej wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:57 pmI would understand your thoughts better if it wasn’t D1 and early in the game when there is information to be processed and that would be a distraction.Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:02 pmI don't think it's an explicit thing. I think it's a subtle opportunity. It goes back to my "filling the room" theory. Which is probably such a stupid idea anyway, but this is where I am at today.worcej wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 3:58 pm
Can I ask why you would think me engaging with Jamie as he was engaging with you is explicitly scummy? I can see how, if you were another 3rd party here, that it could look like I was defending you in that instance, but it’s weird to see you have so much thought on that interaction with Jamie.
Which is why I am taking some other looks at interactions because I am worried that I have focused so much on you that I've dug a hole and can't reliably see anything else.
Yep – similar to how there seems to be a common wisdom about not piling on the same wagon. Since discussion of Koala's Townie Heel tactics took up such a big portion of the agenda, I'd imagine a Mafia team would avoid going "all in" on either side of the debate.worcej wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:58 pmIs your basis here that one would buddy and one would detract?KoalaAttack wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:24 pmI do have 1 thought: if there are 2 Mafias left, based on reactions to me, I think there is one Mafia in Flum, HB, worcej (what did brainbomb called me doing to Damo last game?) and one Mafia in everyone else (annoyed with me) to spread their eggs among baskets
Votes not being static, what’s your next vote placement of Worcej falls out of contention?
Suspicious, because I totally did this trick last game as a Mafia – successfully too – voted for Townie Chaqa while going AFK for EOD and putting up Mafia teammate Eden as my "vote for Eden if you don't like Chaqa" parting shot.Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 7:25 pmVotes not being static, what’s your next vote placement of Worcej falls out of contention?
Information is always good, but we probably don't have many miskills available to us and I think you're being negligent by not thinking about this.Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 7:11 pmCurrently in the pub for the afternoon.worcej wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:57 pmI would understand your thoughts better if it wasn’t D1 and early in the game when there is information to be processed and that would be a distraction.Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:02 pm
I don't think it's an explicit thing. I think it's a subtle opportunity. It goes back to my "filling the room" theory. Which is probably such a stupid idea anyway, but this is where I am at today.
Which is why I am taking some other looks at interactions because I am worried that I have focused so much on you that I've dug a hole and can't reliably see anything else.
Anyway, Worcej, I get it. I’m using D1 information/observations/perceptions to inform my vote today. I suppose it could be worse.
We need information. Someone is going to flip today and give us more info than we have.
What makes me truly reconsider is you aren’t really trying to defend yourself. I could see mafia being more protestive, demanding, etc.
However this resolves, information is good, yeah?
this just isn't true lolbozotheclown wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:50 pmYou do as mafia.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:48 pmi never fabricate shitbozotheclown wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:44 pm
OK, but it was the not reason you stated, which make what you said look like a fabrication.
I don't know how to respond to Bona's claim either lol...Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:01 pmHow would mafia play the game and never make anything up? <head scratching >.