MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

[FlaviusAetius]

I do not see any reason a mafia would want to fake claim Jekyll, knowing it would lead to getting lynched rather soon. I just do not see what they would hope to accomplish before getting lynched. I can see a VT claiming it to try to throw off the mafia and SK or to try to get reactions. I still somewhat expect ND
or Chaqa to retract their claim before D2 is over. Between the two, I believe ND is the real Jekyll, because his claim that he received messages saying he was RBed and survived a NK makes more sense with no N1 kills that what Chaqa claimed, and Chaqa was more vague with his claims until ND made his specific claims.

It does not really matter though, unless one of them retracts and claims VT, I think they should be the D2 and D3 lynches, and at this point maybe even if one does retract.

##VOTE Chaqa

sigh

[FlaviusAetius]

I was ROLEBLOCKED and TARGETED for NK

I ATE BOTH OF THOSE BECAUSE I AM A LITERAL GOD. Bow before me.

This.....seems mechanically impossible?

The roleblock has priority over a docsave and if you were commuting you wouldnt be targetable so not roleblockable.

Unless youre claiming someone actually docsaved you which seems even more unlikely

jekyll cant be RBed, if it says he was RBed then HYDE got RBed, NOT Jekyll

[FlaviusAetius]

lol, ##Vote ND

I don't believe any of this, and tbh I think getting rid of him as a policy lynch due to his awfulness is worth it.

Agreed. I was going to vote for him when I saw nobody died: any of the scum teams should have gone for him. And our healers we're taken (maybe one saved him? maybe not). I think his team got unlucky targeting whoever. I also think most of his posts yesterday were saying little, but doing it loudly. Whenever asked to stake out an actual read, he deflected.

All that said: ##VOTE ND.

This.....seems really weird?

You were really liking ND's shit yesterday

bumppppppppppppppppppppp
bunny what the heck you did like what ND was doing, I dont remember any wagon forming around him...

[FlaviusAetius]

I'm confused. I don't understand why someone would fakeclaim Jekyll.

I think their both mafia, and freaked out after their leader died, but maybe its different mafia, I dont really know, what I do know though is that Hyde wins with mafia, they would want to keep him a live, this is ridiciulous that they would target the doctor, these plebs are both lying guranteed

Hyde does not win with mafia

Yes he does

[FlaviusAetius]

I think their both mafia, and freaked out after their leader died, but maybe its different mafia, I dont really know, what I do know though is that Hyde wins with mafia, they would want to keep him a live, this is ridiciulous that they would target the doctor, these plebs are both lying guranteed

Hyde does not win with mafia

Yes he does

The player controlling the nightly actions of Mr Hyde is aligned with Evil, and may register a win separately from you if:

1. Either* of the Mafia teams wins, even if you (and thus Hyde) has died, or:
2. The game reaches a point where only you (and thus Hyde) and The Ripper are left alive.

If town wins, the player controlling Hyde's night action has lost.

Mr. Hyde (and therefore also Dr. Jekyll) is Third Party NK immune.

[FlaviusAetius]

I want an explanation for this. I can live with xorxes - he has an explanation. Though conveniently it isn't one I can counter since I'm not Vapor. I don't know why he said what he said. It didn't strike me as off, but then again I'm looking at it through the lens of knowing I am town - so I'm not holding it against xorx.

answer my question @tom
What are your impressions after seeing Vapor's role?
Do you think Vapor played it smart, or were you surprised by how he did it?

I don’t think Vapor played wel or poorly. It’s hard to judge - people vote for the smallest things D1 because there is so little information out

didnt answer 1st question

[FlaviusAetius]

So you werent refreshing like crazy? And how are you going to excuse literally everything else you said? I dont believe in going off of meta, because then people can hide behind it, and thats probably exactly what you are doing right now, and with everything else?
##vote bozo

I was refreshing to see if anyone voted to break the tie resulting from emc's vote. purple and xorxes must have voted within seconds of each other and myself, because all three voted showed up at the same time form my perspective. purple and xorxes can probably confirm that our votes were very close in time.

Yes the votes were close.

hmmm, ok

[FlaviusAetius]

I think if neither are J/H, it could be likely that they are on Moriaty's team and this is some sort of last ditch gambit. However this is most likely J/H vs scum

I think if they were both scum, the real J/H would come out, I thought the same but who knows, but then again no matter what Jekyll gets killed Day 3, and I usually believe that sacrifices are way more hyped up than how often people actually do them, people would rather stay a live 100%
im gonna say their both not scum, but i still think both of their claims are absolutely ridiculous but it DOESNT MATTER
Why are we risking killing a doctor on Day 2...

[FlaviusAetius]

I’m going to say this again:

YOU ARE ALL VOTING TO 50/50 A DOCTOR ROLE WHEN WE DO NOT NEED TO. THIS IS A DAY 3 LYNCH, NOT A DAY 2.

Damo is shooting up my scumreads, I’m really happy n frost. I advocate anyone with at least half a brain staying away from this ND/Chaqa shit to read and consider a frost wagon.

go on bosox....or bozo.. those two wagons are much better than the noob when he wants too and pro when he feels like it, frost

[FlaviusAetius]

I’m going to say this again:

YOU ARE ALL VOTING TO 50/50 A DOCTOR ROLE WHEN WE DO NOT NEED TO. THIS IS A DAY 3 LYNCH, NOT A DAY 2.

Damo is shooting up my scumreads, I’m really happy n frost. I advocate anyone with at least half a brain staying away from this ND/Chaqa shit to read and consider a frost wagon.

This is only true if we are guaranteed to hot JH on our first try. It might take us two lynches.

I can nearly gurantee you RIGHT NOW that the mafia are going to NK whoever they NKed again because they determined killing Hyde/Jekyll is a good idea for them, their not going to waste an NK. We dont need to do the work for them, thats what they WANT to happen

[FlaviusAetius]

It’s not 50/50. It’s only 50/50 if you don’t want to put thought into who you believe is being truthful.

Why risk it?

[damo666]

@Chaqa are tou now claiming VT?

##unend

##vote Frost

[ND]

Thoughts on chaqa after work, but

I was nk targeted, roleblocked, and hyde did not kill.
The doc save happens during the day and obviously it worked because I am alive so it can't be role blocked.

[ND]

For anyone confused I just summarized what happened to me again for you

[dargorygel]

Hmmm
An interesting toin of events.
Chaqa seems as sincere as ND. In his own way.
##unvote

[Chaqa]

@damo - correct.

Really, you guys should just vote for me today anyway to remove any doubt about my plan, because otherwise in the following days of this game, people will go mad and circle back on wild theories of me being scum or something.

[dargorygel]

No, I hate unvotes.

At this point, because of this statement by frostwind:
"Still a little confused about the votes for Chaqa. He's all but confirmed. Very confused as to whether ND is trying to get himself killed, I don't like his playstyle." (p48)
With the belief that scum are more sure of the J/H persona than the rest of us, frosty seems to know more than I do. How was chaqa confirmed? Even chaqa didn't think he was confirmed.

##VOTE FROSTWIND

[dargorygel]

@damo - correct.

Really, you guys should just vote for me today anyway to remove any doubt about my plan, because otherwise in the following days of this game, people will go mad and circle back on wild theories of me being scum or something.

You didn't seem interested/willing to by misslynched before, Chaqa. Why the change of melody?

[FlaviusAetius]

Im not saying dont kill Chaqa, sorry Chaqa your gonna have to die, BUT HE DOES NOT HAVE TO DIE TODAY, NOR DOES ND, ONE OF THEM WILL DIE TONIGHT BY MAFIA, THEY ARENT GOING TO WASTE A BLOCKED NK

WE KILL WHOEVER IS LEFT TOMORROW, AS THEY ARE SCUM, SIMPLE. DIMPLES.

[Chaqa]

@damo - correct.

Really, you guys should just vote for me today anyway to remove any doubt about my plan, because otherwise in the following days of this game, people will go mad and circle back on wild theories of me being scum or something.

You didn't seem interested/willing to by misslynched before, Chaqa. Why the change of melody?

What makes you think that? My big post even mentioned I'd be fine being lynched.