MAFIA 83: HALLOWE'EN IN THE TOYSHOP - GAME THREAD

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Just putting it out there, should we do a massclaim now? It might be great for us now.

Because out of the 12 players (not brainbomb) left, only 2 are mafia. We could actually do something here

We were never informed if there were three or four mafia to start the game. Why did you just say “2 are mafia?”

Because, as noted multiple times, we have to assume there are 4 total in order to have the safest calculation of a town win.

[ND]

I do plan to look for Brain-Will-Sweet connections later.

And, as a brief side note. Macca's revelation on Page 52 does put a dent in my case on Will, but I still think there is enough suspicious stuff concerning Will-Sweet to warrant a Will wagon.

Also, yeah, apparently I was wrong about Bozo so RIP Bozo. Kind of a bizarre kill so I'll take a look into that. Anyway, Macca is a town clear along with Hamilton thu so at least we got that.

There are none. I voted both of them.

https://www.amazon.com/Ann-Arbor-T-shir ... B07JYF8ZL9

Actually eat THIS ONE. It would be hella funny.

Uh huh. You voted.. both of "them". Strange considering Sweet was shot and you voted to remove Bona (Town) from the game. Then voted for Brain only after Macca made her claim against Brain.

What a weirdo.

[ND]

Don't bother coaching your idiot scumbag pal Will, Brain. As soon as we vote you off he is next.

Ha! Your argument has plenty of holes in it ND! Didn’t you see my scumread on brainbomb? And my vote for sweetandcool? Only a town could possibly. You are factually wrong I am becoming more suspicious that you could ignore this overwhelming evidence.

Uh huh. Whatever helps you sleep at night fruit cup. Your song and dance isn't fooling me and enough scum have flipped that have been part of the, "OH GEE WILL IS TOWN" group that I don't think anyone can seriously ignore your litany of absurd, strange, anti-town statements and play any longer bucko.

[ND]

Why are you suddenly quiet Will? Crying to your teammate(s?) Is Brainbomb giving you words of encouragement?

[ND]

Let it be noted for the record that Will has run off and is hiding from me and my case.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Analysis: The Brainbomb Connection

Alright everyone. I have a case update on Will. I really think that everyone should take some time tonight and re-read Will. In my last update, I noted Will's suspicious connections to Sweet. This update will cover several connections that I have identified with Brainbomb.

I want to draw everyone's attention to a post that Brainbomb made on Page 4, “this guy came in with big will energy, and for this to be town I expect this to continue. And we keep the game manageable so this doesnt get lost in the weeds. This could could be going places under the right conditions. He could be a brankl, or a sarahg or even a sabi. We have to foster the right belief for that to grow. So hey will who do you scumread so far?” (Brain, 4)

This quote is directly referencing Will. It is fairly nonsensical even for Brain. However, I think anyone who reads this can agree that it is a) odd. More disturbingly is that also on Page 4, there is another post Brainbomb made. To who? You may ask. Well, to sweet, obviously, "“the fact sweet has reads already falls in line with what I come to expect from his usual need to solve. But that also is a meaningless thing because I will inevitably find some reason to scumread him anyway and spend days arguing over his stances as if they are scummy. So probably just kill him now before he even does scummy stuff.” (Brain, 4)

So, what does this mean? To me this reads like a mafia player (Brain) addresses his two teammates at the start of the game in the public forum in a jokey/nonsensical way. It is something I would expect of Brainbomb. We know Brain and Sweet are mafia. I wager that Will also is mafia and this is Brain's way of addressing them. Of course, there could be another mafia member as well, but this post reeks like a mafia member welcoming a new member of their team to the club.

Now, it gets interesting towards EOD. I have revisited my notes and found these quotes of interest. Brain says, "of my voters I think darg is the most obvious town will is town as well.” (Brain, 38) He seeds the idea that Will is town along with Darg. Darg probably is town so this is Brain's way of pairing the two together and linking them. The line about Will is similar with what other people were saying throughout the day. Brain clearly doesn't want a flash wagon to develop on Will and is using his influence to try and prevent that. He comments, "of the options Damo listed id choose worcej over will." (Brain, 40) Brain is attempting to steer the conversation away from Will to another wagon. Brain is trying to reinforce the idea that Will is new town and wants to prevent Will from going down.

By this point Sweet is dead. And Brain has been saddled with the ultimate weak link essentially a moronic, floundering scumbag in Will. Essentially Brain is fucked and he has to do anything to keep Will alive through the day so he can start to coach him at night. Brain could of bussed Will here, but didn't. I imagine if Sweet had been alive he would have sacrificed Will, but with his claim and Sweet's death he had to keep Will alive or it was going to be a loss on D1. So, Brain does what he can to keep Will alive and in the game for as long as possible. Hence why he floats the Worcej vote and rides on Damo's coat tails who I have already identified in my first major analysis as a EOD influencer. Brain wouldn't bus in this situation which likely means Worcej is clear and maybe even Damo despite his anti-town shenanigans.

Paragraph 1: ever think he was just being nice? Might be good for ya to learn from him. Also he could have been trying to manipulate me. This is another subtle reason I was suspicious of brain in my earlier post.

Paragraph 2: nothing important. ND is wildin

Paragraph 3: you are grasping at straws. ND’s logic:

Sweet: Will, who are your scumreads?

Will: idk, probably example, and example. Wbu?

ND: stupid. This is sweet trying to coerce Will into picking someone that sweet wants. Scum activities detected

Paragraph 4: or he wants to fit in with the general consensus that will is town. Because it is obvious to pretty much everyone except you that I am town, agreeing with them would be a way to fit in with my townies. All depends on the angle you percieve it from. You have a biased lens. Funny.

Paragraph 5: dumb. In order to prove that I am a mafia, you make the assumption that my moves are based on mafioso motives. You can’t prove ice cream is better than cake by saying “ice cream is better than cake”. Nice fallacy. How would brain be worried if no one but you scum reads me? Shouldn’t he be impressed with my play? Is this dumb? Yes.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Let it be noted for the record that Will has run off and is hiding from me and my case.

Nope typing is hard on a phone

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I do plan to look for Brain-Will-Sweet connections later.

And, as a brief side note. Macca's revelation on Page 52 does put a dent in my case on Will, but I still think there is enough suspicious stuff concerning Will-Sweet to warrant a Will wagon.

Also, yeah, apparently I was wrong about Bozo so RIP Bozo. Kind of a bizarre kill so I'll take a look into that. Anyway, Macca is a town clear along with Hamilton thu so at least we got that.

There are none. I voted both of them.

https://www.amazon.com/Ann-Arbor-T-shir ... B07JYF8ZL9

Actually eat THIS ONE. It would be hella funny.

Uh huh. You voted.. both of "them". Strange considering Sweet was shot and you voted to remove Bona (Town) from the game. Then voted for Brain only after Macca made her claim against Brain.

What a weirdo.

Yes. But I also have a post with brain as my main suspect before that. Go read it mr. Citation. And I voted sweet BEFORE THE AXE MURDER. Time dysphoria is a serious problem. Go see your local doctor.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Soooo, massclaim anyone?

[brainbomb]

you guys are just hurling insults at each other right and left. Maybe go do something else or take it down a notch.

[brainbomb]

also massclaim is really bad since three people died and lord only knows what items they even had. youd be telling mafia exactly what they need to do to avoid kill fails

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

you guys are just hurling insults at each other right and left. Maybe go do something else or take it down a notch.

You of all people should know ND is full of bs

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

also massclaim is really bad since three people died and lord only knows what items they even had. youd be telling mafia exactly what they need to do to avoid kill fails

Help? Mafia giving advice?

[brainbomb]

you guys are just hurling insults at each other right and left. Maybe go do something else or take it down a notch.

You of all people should know ND is full of bs

ND is just not worth wasting energy on.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

you guys are just hurling insults at each other right and left. Maybe go do something else or take it down a notch.

You of all people should know ND is full of bs

ND is just not worth wasting energy on.

Can we get an F in chat for this poor soul?

[brainbomb]

to be honest I feel bad for town. ive been fighting with my own scumteam nonstop and we have massively clashed all along. I sympathize with town feeling annoyed here

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

to be honest I feel bad for town. ive been fighting with my own scumteam nonstop and we have massively clashed all along. I sympathize with town feeling annoyed here

So I think it goes without saying that whatever comes out of this man’s mouth should be disregarded

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Tomorrow I will do an in depth analysis of all the players.

G.I. Will signing out.

[TheMadMonarch]

Barely had the dust settled on the last wave of violence in the toyshop than the aggressive toys found themselves surprised that so much dust had settled.

Nobody has died.

Night 2 has begun.

You may post.

Oh get fucked!

(this is not directed at you jamie.)

[TheMadMonarch]

I've been keeping this list together for a while, might as well post it now:

People who keep saying my D1 vote on Brain was a joke vote despite evidence:

Brainbomb
JustAGuyNamedWill