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That was the reason I voted him, nothing else. ##unvote.kgray wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:29 amDid you vote for ghug for any reason besides thinking Vecna had a guilty scan on him?
Ok...now you're just fu**ing with us to see how long we continue to believe you can actually think this. Right?Bonatogether wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:47 amit'd hurt, but I'd still be more in favor of it than a Macca, lfischl, or Ezio wagonbrainbomb wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:45 amand What if my role is on that list? am I still worth just sacrificing for vcaBonatogether wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:27 am
Cop, Conspiracy Theorist, Jailor, Mason, Vigilante, Clairvoyant, although I haven't done a full readthrough of the roles yet.
Okay. When you realized Vecna was lying, why did you not reconsider your vote? Who do you find suspicious?
On d1 I actually do think it is better to vote brain than any of three I listed aside from maybe lfischl if he starts posting more. I prefer pressuring bunny or celaph, but if the choice is brain or ezio, I know what I'm choosing.BunnyGo wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:54 amOk...now you're just fu**ing with us to see how long we continue to believe you can actually think this. Right?Bonatogether wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:47 amit'd hurt, but I'd still be more in favor of it than a Macca, lfischl, or Ezio wagon
Wait, what?? You think that killing off active *town* (not just an active player in general, but an active town PR on your list of powerful roles) is better than killing a lurker? Ignoring the part where we then lose that PR, what does killing a townie tell us about their connections or about VCA?Bonatogether wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:47 amit'd hurt, but I'd still be more in favor of it than a Macca, lfischl, or Ezio wagonbrainbomb wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:45 amand What if my role is on that list? am I still worth just sacrificing for vcaBonatogether wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:27 am
Cop, Conspiracy Theorist, Jailor, Mason, Vigilante, Clairvoyant, although I haven't done a full readthrough of the roles yet.
Which is why we should start policy killing them around d4 while we use previous day's info of dead active people to work out scum, imo.kgray wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:55 am@bona, I think you should reconsider your lurker perspective. Usually lurkers aren't going to suddenly start talking and giving us "info" later, so keeping them around does nothing except for get rid of active players who are easier to read just by virtue of them contributing.
Is this a new opinion? I can't find anything about this in the last 2 games.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 5:01 amWhich is why we should start policy killing them around d4 while we use previous day's info of dead active people to work out scum, imo.kgray wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:55 am@bona, I think you should reconsider your lurker perspective. Usually lurkers aren't going to suddenly start talking and giving us "info" later, so keeping them around does nothing except for get rid of active players who are easier to read just by virtue of them contributing.
You barely even know me or my playstyle or meta. Nobody has this opinion of me. The only person who actually thinks like this is maybe flash. What are you basing this on? it just feels like you randomly decided based on one game that Im a great elim optionBonatogether wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 5:00 amOn d1 I actually do think it is better to vote brain than any of three I listed aside from maybe lfischl if he starts posting more. I prefer pressuring bunny or celaph, but if the choice is brain or ezio, I know what I'm choosing.BunnyGo wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:54 amOk...now you're just fu**ing with us to see how long we continue to believe you can actually think this. Right?Bonatogether wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:47 am
it'd hurt, but I'd still be more in favor of it than a Macca, lfischl, or Ezio wagon
Yeah. Most of the roles I said will only give us one good use (like doc, vigilante, or clairvoyant), are expendable (mason), or miss one scumteam entirely (cop, conspiracy theorist). I think it's fine trading that for good info.kgray wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 5:00 amWait, what?? You think that killing off active *town* (not just an active player in general, but an active town PR on your list of powerful roles) is better than killing a lurker? Ignoring the part where we then lose that PR, what does killing a townie tell us about their connections or about VCA?Bonatogether wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:47 amit'd hurt, but I'd still be more in favor of it than a Macca, lfischl, or Ezio wagon
Indeed, I have new thoughts this game.BunnyGo wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 5:04 amIs this a new opinion? I can't find anything about this in the last 2 games.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 5:01 amWhich is why we should start policy killing them around d4 while we use previous day's info of dead active people to work out scum, imo.kgray wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:55 am@bona, I think you should reconsider your lurker perspective. Usually lurkers aren't going to suddenly start talking and giving us "info" later, so keeping them around does nothing except for get rid of active players who are easier to read just by virtue of them contributing.
But those lurkers won't be contributing, so your plan is just cutting off info that we could be getting from active players early. How is your suggestion better than getting rid of lurkers now, and keeping active people around so that we get more info from them as the game goes on?Bonatogether wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 5:01 amWhich is why we should start policy killing them around d4 while we use previous day's info of dead active people to work out scum, imo.kgray wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:55 am@bona, I think you should reconsider your lurker perspective. Usually lurkers aren't going to suddenly start talking and giving us "info" later, so keeping them around does nothing except for get rid of active players who are easier to read just by virtue of them contributing.
This is missing my point. You're not a good early dk target because of your playstyle last game - you're a good early dk target because you flipping gives us a lot of info on a lot of people. I'd put ghug, kgray, bunny, and maybe donny in this category, off the top of my head.brainbomb wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 5:05 amYou barely even know me or my playstyle or meta. Nobody has this opinion of me. The only person who actually thinks like this is maybe flash. What are you basing this on? it just feels like you randomly decided based on one game that Im a great elim optionBonatogether wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 5:00 amOn d1 I actually do think it is better to vote brain than any of three I listed aside from maybe lfischl if he starts posting more. I prefer pressuring bunny or celaph, but if the choice is brain or ezio, I know what I'm choosing.
Please tell me what "good info" we will learn by flipping one of those town PRs you mentioned.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 5:06 amYeah. Most of the roles I said will only give us one good use (like doc, vigilante, or clairvoyant), are expendable (mason), or miss one scumteam entirely (cop, conspiracy theorist). I think it's fine trading that for good info.kgray wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 5:00 amWait, what?? You think that killing off active *town* (not just an active player in general, but an active town PR on your list of powerful roles) is better than killing a lurker? Ignoring the part where we then lose that PR, what does killing a townie tell us about their connections or about VCA?Bonatogether wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:47 am
it'd hurt, but I'd still be more in favor of it than a Macca, lfischl, or Ezio wagon
This whole discussion is moot if the people on the block aren't one of those roles.