WebMafia Olympics - Game #2 - Star Trek TNG: The Republic of Q [GAME THREAD]

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

To the mafia who have successfully pushed for me and damo, youve played well

@damo i think we need to coordinate what we do here

[damo666]

@Chaqa if you vote Flav I will endvote. Promise.

And I won't if he doesn't obviously.

[Chaqa]

I suppose if we get *everyone* to vote for the top 3 it would also work.
Green => already cast votes
Red => votes we would need cast

Damo (4) - TheFlyingBoat, President Eden, Chaqa, FlaviusAetius, JustaGuyNamedWill, Glitterbomb
JustaGuyNamedWill (4) - TheFlyingBoat, President Eden, Chaqa, FlaviusAetius, Damo666, Glitterbomb
FlaviusAetius (3) - President Eden, TheFlyingBoat, Damo666, JustaGuyNamedWill, Glitterbomb, Chaqa
Chaqa (2) - FlaviusAetius, Damo666
TheFlyingBoat (1) - Damo666
Glitterbomb (1) - JustAGuyNamedWill


@Eden: What do you think about this? Then the only way to fuck it up is if people cast off-wagon votes, which would require more votes than mafia controls.

If gbomb is scum we're pretty screwed as she has so much control. Let's assume she's not. Currently there's no way Will will vote me and vice versa. Chaqa if you vote Flav it will be 4-4-4 and Flav has already voted both Will and me so he can do nothing. Then only reason Will would vote me would be if he is scum and vice versa in which case we would lose 1 town but have one confirmed scum going into d3 at 3-2 which is effectively the same as 3-1.

Conclusion:

Chaqa votes Flav and nobody does anything else other than "end". Make sense?

Yes, that's it Chaqa votes Flav and shut up shop. Even if Chaqa is scum I think he has to comply. Non-compliance is virtually an admission of guilt.

I think we have basically consigned to defeat if the scumteam is comprised exclusively of any pairing within Glitter, Eden, TFB, and myself.

Why is there no way you would vote Will nor him vote you? If either of you are town, it is in your best interest to further town's agenda and vote each other to ensure we get 3 shots at killing mafia. Witholding your votes can only be seen as a pro-mafia move to try to fuck with the triple-kill later on.

Frankly I view this post of yours as admission that you are scum.

[President Eden]

I suppose if we get *everyone* to vote for the top 3 it would also work.
Green => already cast votes
Red => votes we would need cast

Damo (4) - TheFlyingBoat, President Eden, Chaqa, FlaviusAetius, JustaGuyNamedWill, Glitterbomb
JustaGuyNamedWill (4) - TheFlyingBoat, President Eden, Chaqa, FlaviusAetius, Damo666, Glitterbomb
FlaviusAetius (3) - President Eden, TheFlyingBoat, Damo666, JustaGuyNamedWill, Glitterbomb, Chaqa
Chaqa (2) - FlaviusAetius, Damo666
TheFlyingBoat (1) - Damo666
Glitterbomb (1) - JustAGuyNamedWill


@Eden: What do you think about this? Then the only way to fuck it up is if people cast off-wagon votes, which would require more votes than mafia controls.

That seems right. I think the difficult part is getting those votes, though. Damo and Will notably would need to cross-vote there. The rest actually seems pretty plausible. So if we can make damo and Will cross-vote it should work.

[Chaqa]

@Chaqa if you vote Flav I will endvote. Promise.

I am planning to vote Flav, but I want to coordinate this properly.

[Chaqa]

@Will/Damo/Eden

if all three of you vote End i will cast a Flav and end vote together right now.

[President Eden]

I think I’ve seen enough to start the ball rolling on this.

##END

[damo666]

I suppose if we get *everyone* to vote for the top 3 it would also work.
Green => already cast votes
Red => votes we would need cast

Damo (4) - TheFlyingBoat, President Eden, Chaqa, FlaviusAetius, JustaGuyNamedWill, Glitterbomb
JustaGuyNamedWill (4) - TheFlyingBoat, President Eden, Chaqa, FlaviusAetius, Damo666, Glitterbomb
FlaviusAetius (3) - President Eden, TheFlyingBoat, Damo666, JustaGuyNamedWill, Glitterbomb, Chaqa
Chaqa (2) - FlaviusAetius, Damo666
TheFlyingBoat (1) - Damo666
Glitterbomb (1) - JustAGuyNamedWill


@Eden: What do you think about this? Then the only way to fuck it up is if people cast off-wagon votes, which would require more votes than mafia controls.

That seems right. I think the difficult part is getting those votes, though. Damo and Will notably would need to cross-vote there. The rest actually seems pretty plausible. So if we can make damo and Will cross-vote it should work.

Look, there's no way we're going to X vote if we're both town because of the danger of just the double kill and immediate loss.

Chaqa's reluctance to vote Flav is very suspicious.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

##VOTE COUNT PLS JAMIE

Oh shit

[President Eden]

I’m not sure if I should encourage other endvotes though. I’m kind of worried about the fact that Will especially is openly withholding votes to try to thwart what we want to do.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I’m not sure if I should encourage other endvotes though. I’m kind of worried about the fact that Will especially is openly withholding votes to try to thwart what we want to do.

Lol

[Chaqa]

I suppose if we get *everyone* to vote for the top 3 it would also work.
Green => already cast votes
Red => votes we would need cast

Damo (4) - TheFlyingBoat, President Eden, Chaqa, FlaviusAetius, JustaGuyNamedWill, Glitterbomb
JustaGuyNamedWill (4) - TheFlyingBoat, President Eden, Chaqa, FlaviusAetius, Damo666, Glitterbomb
FlaviusAetius (3) - President Eden, TheFlyingBoat, Damo666, JustaGuyNamedWill, Glitterbomb, Chaqa
Chaqa (2) - FlaviusAetius, Damo666
TheFlyingBoat (1) - Damo666
Glitterbomb (1) - JustAGuyNamedWill


@Eden: What do you think about this? Then the only way to fuck it up is if people cast off-wagon votes, which would require more votes than mafia controls.

That seems right. I think the difficult part is getting those votes, though. Damo and Will notably would need to cross-vote there. The rest actually seems pretty plausible. So if we can make damo and Will cross-vote it should work.

Look, there's no way we're going to X vote if we're both town because of the danger of just the double kill and immediate loss.

Chaqa's reluctance to vote Flav is very suspicious.

I have no reluctance to vote for Flav. I simply want to ensure you and Will don't cause any shenanigans.

[President Eden]

I suppose if we get *everyone* to vote for the top 3 it would also work.
Green => already cast votes
Red => votes we would need cast

Damo (4) - TheFlyingBoat, President Eden, Chaqa, FlaviusAetius, JustaGuyNamedWill, Glitterbomb
JustaGuyNamedWill (4) - TheFlyingBoat, President Eden, Chaqa, FlaviusAetius, Damo666, Glitterbomb
FlaviusAetius (3) - President Eden, TheFlyingBoat, Damo666, JustaGuyNamedWill, Glitterbomb, Chaqa
Chaqa (2) - FlaviusAetius, Damo666
TheFlyingBoat (1) - Damo666
Glitterbomb (1) - JustAGuyNamedWill


@Eden: What do you think about this? Then the only way to fuck it up is if people cast off-wagon votes, which would require more votes than mafia controls.

That seems right. I think the difficult part is getting those votes, though. Damo and Will notably would need to cross-vote there. The rest actually seems pretty plausible. So if we can make damo and Will cross-vote it should work.

Look, there's no way we're going to X vote if we're both town because of the danger of just the double kill and immediate loss.

Chaqa's reluctance to vote Flav is very suspicious.

I believe Chaqa will vote Flav if you vote Will (and vice-versa).

In fact, we could just all agree to vote Chaqa if he doesn’t. The fact that none of me/TFB/GB have voted him yet makes this a credible threat to force his compliance if he is trying to pull a fast one.

[damo666]

@Chaqa if you vote Flav I will endvote. Promise.

I am planning to vote Flav, but I want to coordinate this properly.

But if you're scum you can then endvote without voting Flav killing just me and Will.

You go first, me and Will follow.

What's the worst outcome? We don't endvote? So what?

[President Eden]

@Chaqa if you vote Flav I will endvote. Promise.

I am planning to vote Flav, but I want to coordinate this properly.

But if you're scum you can then endvote without voting Flav killing just me and Will.

You go first, me and Will follow.

What's the worst outcome? We don't endvote? So what?

The worst outcome is that we vote Flav first and he ends up one ahead of you/Will, and then you two simply don’t cross-vote, leaving us with just Flav dead.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Chaqa you endvote, then we vote, then you vote, then we endvote

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I am planning to vote Flav, but I want to coordinate this properly.

But if you're scum you can then endvote without voting Flav killing just me and Will.

You go first, me and Will follow.

What's the worst outcome? We don't endvote? So what?

The worst outcome is that we vote Flav first and he ends up one ahead of you/Will, and then you two simply don’t cross-vote, leaving us with just Flav dead.

What no if its a tie we all die

[President Eden]

Don’t endvote yet Chaq. They’re trying to set up a single kill.

[President Eden]

But if you're scum you can then endvote without voting Flav killing just me and Will.

You go first, me and Will follow.

What's the worst outcome? We don't endvote? So what?

The worst outcome is that we vote Flav first and he ends up one ahead of you/Will, and then you two simply don’t cross-vote, leaving us with just Flav dead.

What no if its a tie we all die

That’s not what would happen in the hypothetical. We would end up with Flav at 5 or 6 votes (depending on GB) compared to you two at 4 or 5 (again depending on GB). That puts you two at second with -1 vote off Flav, resulting in only Flav being dead.

TFB, GB, and I have an enforcement mechanism to force Chaqa to comply. That means you two need to go first.

[damo666]

That seems right. I think the difficult part is getting those votes, though. Damo and Will notably would need to cross-vote there. The rest actually seems pretty plausible. So if we can make damo and Will cross-vote it should work.

Look, there's no way we're going to X vote if we're both town because of the danger of just the double kill and immediate loss.

Chaqa's reluctance to vote Flav is very suspicious.

I have no reluctance to vote for Flav. I simply want to ensure you and Will don't cause any shenanigans.

The only possible shenanigans is me voting Will for single kill or vice versa but that wouldn't be a disaster and an open admission of guilt.

Chaqa you simply must vote Flav.

If you continue to prevaricate I expect Eden will turn on you.