M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

[Durga]

Rdr still has given me 0 town vibes. Vecna hella sus. I still don't like ghug, in fact I might like him less now.

Why?

There was a point where y'all were talking to each other and I distinctly remember being like "I don't like this convo" but I'd need to go back and look

You and Tom I mean

[dargorygel]

DEADLINE MOVED 1 day early

[kgray]

Bozo and Tom both wound up on worcej Day 1 instead of jasnah.

Reinforces my belief that jasnah was scum.

Imagine being scum and trying to save a worthless towny for a miskill later? Chaqa couldn't.

As scum all i care about is not losing a teammate Day 1.

Really getting a miskill every day.

Two scum independently avoiding an easy miskill wagon is probably indicative of something.

I think our current GM would disagree with your first statement…

[kgray]

Oracle should 100% target jasnah until a better target presents itself:

- jasnah is literally the only person who could still be Cop besides Chaqa, so while there's no serious doubt on that anymore, revealing jasnah confirms it completely
- jasnah is also literally the only person who could still be Miller besides BunnyGo, so while there's also no serious doubt there either, revealing her confirms that completely as well
- If Chaqa is Cop, jasnah and Jamie must be opposite alignments, or we would have won, so revealing jasnah also reveals Jamie

Hard to imagine there will be a better target there tbh. We either save the game from an amazing Chaqa or BunnyGo gambit, or we confirm the alignments of 4 people.

I don't see why jasnah cop is more likely than lfischl cop.

lfischl was distinctly aware that Chaqa had claimed cop to the point where he though Chaqa revealing his scan might have changed scum’s RB strategy at the last minute. He would’ve CC’d Chaqa if he were the cop.

I mean jasnah can’t be the cop either because no way cop does that… But it’s more possible than lfischl.

[dargorygel]

Oops
glad that did not work... I jumped to conclusions

[Doom427]

Jasnah!Cop is impossible to me. If we think some dead person is cop, our other night kills are more likely (but also aren't going to tell us anything else, so we shouldn't do them). Only reason I could see to scan Jasnah is to check for Miller!Bunny (but don't really think Jasnah is Miller either). But, Tom is sorta... clearly? Scum to me. I guess I don't know how I would respond if I was in his shoes, but...still felt like scum, he had basically the same response as Bozo. So I guess if we're real worried about Bunny, Jasnah is an ok choice?

[Doom427]

Jasnah!Cop is impossible to me. If we think some dead person is cop, our other night kills are more likely (but also aren't going to tell us anything else, so we shouldn't do them). Only reason I could see to scan Jasnah is to check for Miller!Bunny (but don't really think Jasnah is Miller either). But, Tom is sorta... clearly? Scum to me. I guess I don't know how I would respond if I was in his shoes, but...still felt like scum, he had basically the same response as Bozo. So I guess if we're real worried about Bunny, Jasnah is an ok choice?

Ok, I guess our night kills have all been confirmed as also probably not the cop. I guess whatever makes the oracle most anxious, that should be the scan? I was pushing Oracle Tom, and I still think that's probably the best, but, now I don't think it's as necessary.

[President Eden]

Oracle should 100% target jasnah until a better target presents itself:

- jasnah is literally the only person who could still be Cop besides Chaqa, so while there's no serious doubt on that anymore, revealing jasnah confirms it completely
- jasnah is also literally the only person who could still be Miller besides BunnyGo, so while there's also no serious doubt there either, revealing her confirms that completely as well
- If Chaqa is Cop, jasnah and Jamie must be opposite alignments, or we would have won, so revealing jasnah also reveals Jamie

Hard to imagine there will be a better target there tbh. We either save the game from an amazing Chaqa or BunnyGo gambit, or we confirm the alignments of 4 people.

I don't see why jasnah cop is more likely than lfischl cop.

lfischl was distinctly aware that Chaqa had claimed cop to the point where he though Chaqa revealing his scan might have changed scum’s RB strategy at the last minute. He would’ve CC’d Chaqa if he were the cop.

I mean jasnah can’t be the cop either because no way cop does that… But it’s more possible than lfischl.

How booked up is your spokeswoman gig exactly? Wouldn't mind giving you some extra business

[President Eden]

DEADLINE MOVED 1 day early

Send it!!!!!!! Speed run this shit lets go

[President Eden]

Anyway, as kgray said, we're talking the difference between like a 0.05% chance and a 0.001% chance. It's incredibly likely we turn up VT on most non-futile Oracle uses at this point.

The main edge was based on a logic error I made about jasnah's and Jamie's alignments.

[BunnyGo]

Scumteam could be cool and just concede

[BunnyGo]

Oracle should 100% target jasnah until a better target presents itself:

- jasnah is literally the only person who could still be Cop besides Chaqa, so while there's no serious doubt on that anymore, revealing jasnah confirms it completely
- jasnah is also literally the only person who could still be Miller besides BunnyGo, so while there's also no serious doubt there either, revealing her confirms that completely as well
- If Chaqa is Cop, jasnah and Jamie must be opposite alignments, or we would have won, so revealing jasnah also reveals Jamie

Hard to imagine there will be a better target there tbh. We either save the game from an amazing Chaqa or BunnyGo gambit, or we confirm the alignments of 4 people.

Why can’t jasnah and Jamie both be Town? IS THIS A SCUM SLIP?!

[President Eden]

Actually, I'm gonna go back and DOUBLE DOWN on my jasnah/Jamie comment.

Try making sense of EOD2 in a world where they're both town. Who the fuck is the mafia lmao. ghug and snowy? rivera decided to bus his partner all game and do nothing else? Every single voter on bozo in that world is town unless Durga is playing an incredibly good mafia game. And outside of trying to tie the wagons, mafia being on Tom instead of bozo is ludicrous.

It's far from impossible for both to be town, but I would put myself at 70% confidence there's a mafia between jasnah and Jamie.

[President Eden]

Also if it's ghug I'm literally retiring in shame for being on the 3 scumbo wagon at EOD.

[Durga]

Actually, I'm gonna go back and DOUBLE DOWN on my jasnah/Jamie comment.

Try making sense of EOD2 in a world where they're both town. Who the fuck is the mafia lmao. ghug and snowy? rivera decided to bus his partner all game and do nothing else? Every single voter on bozo in that world is town unless Durga is playing an incredibly good mafia game. And outside of trying to tie the wagons, mafia being on Tom instead of bozo is ludicrous.

It's far from impossible for both to be town, but I would put myself at 70% confidence there's a mafia between jasnah and Jamie.

This can't be right

[snowy801]

I love that Chaqa is still keeping to not +1ing Eden

True love

[Bonatogether]

You can also game who’s online to figure out PRs or mafia. Definitely for the best to keep night as-is

That's why I think future mafia games we should enforce people turn off their online status.

Scroll down to the bottom of the page and click "WHO IS ONLINE"

god not this again

[snowy801]

I don't think Jamiet was scum. Jasnah maybe

What, he just didn't give a shit about dying? He's made of sterner stuff than that (see: M69)

[snowy801]

I say we completely stop +1ing any of Eden's posts in solidarity with our scorned lover Chaqa

[Bonatogether]

Both our caught mafia were on worcej.

Selfishly I know the entire team can’t be on him…

So unless Sabi or jasnah are mafia, at least one mafia bussed bozo.

at least one mafia bussed bozo is a trivial statement even without tom the bomb being scum