20 Questions Game 315

[Hominidae]

Alive at the same time as John Abernethy (English surgeon who died on April 20, 1831)?

[DreamTrawler]

Alive at the same time as John Abernethy (English surgeon who died on April 20, 1831)?

No.

[DreamTrawler]

1,3,5. Real dead woman
2,6,8,9,10,11,16. Born between April 1831 and April 1841 (deducible using the contemporaneous questions)
1,4,5. Born in what is now the United States but not what is currently California, Ohio, New York, or Pennsylvania
7. Not born before the US became a nation and primarily associated with nation or tribe other than the US (this is one statement modified by "not")
12,14,15. Has notable written works, but not primarily known for them
13. Not married to anyone who was famous in their own right

Passed: Primarily famous for contributions to the arts?

[Jamiet99uk]

White woman, over 60 when she died?

[DreamTrawler]

White woman, over 60 when she died?

No.

[JECE]

Removing 7 since it's not relevant (born after independence) and confusingly phrased.

1,3,5. Real dead woman
2,6,7,8,9,10,11,16. Born between April 1831 and April 1841 (deducible using the contemporaneous questions)
1,4,5. Born in what is now the United States but not what is currently California, Ohio, New York, or Pennsylvania
12,14,15. Has notable written works, but not primarily known for them
13. Not married to anyone who was famous in their own right

Passed: Primarily famous for contributions to the arts?

[JECE]

White woman born in a state of the union as indicated on this map?

[DreamTrawler]

White woman born in a state of the union as indicated on this map?

No.

[Hominidae]

Liliʻuokalani

[JECE]

Juneteenth is tomorrow. I reckon that we seek to guess an African American woman.

[Hominidae]

My guess is probably wrong because she was married to someone famous, but I'm keeping it up.

Also I just noticed the "white" part of JECE's question. I'm guessing this is not a white woman.

[Hominidae]

I don't know, maybe it is correct. John Owen Dominis wasn't really famous "in his own right" per se.

[DreamTrawler]

Liliʻuokalani

Queen Liliʻuokalani is correct! Wow, it keeps bouncing from me to Hominidae.

The arts/writing angle is that she was a prolific songwriter, most famously writing Aloha ‘Oe, one of the most well-known Hawaiian songs.

Also, it slipped my mind but an African-American woman for Juneteenth would have been a good pick.

[FlaviusAetius]

Removing 7 since it's not relevant (born after independence) and confusingly phrased.

1,3,5. Real dead woman
2,6,7,8,9,10,11,16. Born between April 1831 and April 1841 (deducible using the contemporaneous questions)
1,4,5. Born in what is now the United States but not what is currently California, Ohio, New York, or Pennsylvania
12,14,15. Has notable written works, but not primarily known for them
13. Not married to anyone who was famous in their own right

Passed: Primarily famous for contributions to the arts?

I was thinking Pochahantus at the time

[Hominidae]

Excellent pick! Very outside the box given the line of questioning we were on. If Hawaii hadn't been on that map that JECE provided, I don't know if I would have gotten it.

I need to get some sleep before deciding the next being, so it won't be until morning Eastern US time.

[Jamiet99uk]

I don't know, maybe it is correct. John Owen Dominis wasn't really famous "in his own right" per se.

I think this is borderline. Clearly from his Wikipedia entry, he was a well-known public figure in Hawaii before he married her; but today in 2024 he is really only still known about, because of the historical importance of his wife.

So I'm not going to argue with the QM on this point.

[JECE]

Removing 7 since it's not relevant (born after independence) and confusingly phrased.

1,3,5. Real dead woman
2,6,7,8,9,10,11,16. Born between April 1831 and April 1841 (deducible using the contemporaneous questions)
1,4,5. Born in what is now the United States but not what is currently California, Ohio, New York, or Pennsylvania
12,14,15. Has notable written works, but not primarily known for them
13. Not married to anyone who was famous in their own right

Passed: Primarily famous for contributions to the arts?

I was thinking Pochahantus at the time

I guess that I meant to say 'no longer relevant'