Mafia 88: Murder at the Meadery - GAME THREAD

[sweetandcool]

During the night I actually used the GT to organize my thoughts, which I normally kind of do in thread. This is what I came up with:

Scum:

Vecna
LoW
Bozo
rdr

Scum Lean:

Ham

Null:

Bunny
worcej
Balki

Town lean:

Damo

Town:

Pirate
Bona
ghug (RIP)
Jamiet* (only because of the RB)
----------------------------------------------------------

I am very confident that Vecna is scum. Vecna knows when I am town and yet despite being town he thinks I am Mafia. Not a compelling case and yet an accurate one.

LoW and Bozo make sense as the last two, but it's a good explanation for Bozo's EoD.

rdr is a bit of a wild card and doesn't feel like he fits with the team.

Null players I have essentially not thought of the entire game.

Like this post @sweet?

Yeah...really obviously townreading Ham D3....all the way...

This was before Ham explained himself. damo did not start treating the situation the way he did until AFTER Ham explained himself. Which is the SAME as me.

[sweetandcool]

Some thoughts before I call it a night. There is a lot to think over.

- Has BunnyGo claimed clerk yet or not? I got confused.

- Okay, here is something that is bugging me a bit. Ham's CLERK crumbs on Day 1 are very clear if you are looking for them. So, why wasn't he the target on night 1?

1) Mafia either weren't looking for crumbs, or didn't find them.

2) Mafia saw the crumbs and chose to ignore them (thinking them to be fake).

3) Ham is Mafia.

Can some more experienced players chime in: if you were Mafia, would you have looked for and found Ham's crumbs during N1?

- The two players who were most forcefully arguing to not kill Ham (well, I guess sweetandcool should be included here as well) were the NK and the RB target.

- In case anyone is curious (this is, of course, unofficial), here are the votes so far today in order:

wor: Ham*
Bun: Spa*
swe: Ham
swe: Dip
Bal: Boz
Bun: swe
Jam: Boz
boz: Bal
Bun: Bal*
Bun: kin*
boz: kin

I feel like I am living in the Twilight Zone. Was I really that forgettable D3?!

[sweetandcool]

Hey! It looks like we can access D3 on the Bot except the last hour of the phase.

Just takes some link editing.

sweetandcool's ISO for D1: http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?g=88&part=Day%201&user=sweetandcool

Now just edit "Day%201" to "Day%203" in order to access my D3 ISO.

sweetandcool's ISO for D3: http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?g=88&part=Day%203&user=sweetandcool

This should work with any player, just obviously replace the username as appropriate.

[BunnyGo]

During the night I actually used the GT to organize my thoughts, which I normally kind of do in thread. This is what I came up with:

Scum:

Vecna
LoW
Bozo
rdr

Scum Lean:

Ham

Null:

Bunny
worcej
Balki

Town lean:

Damo

Town:

Pirate
Bona
ghug (RIP)
Jamiet* (only because of the RB)
----------------------------------------------------------

I am very confident that Vecna is scum. Vecna knows when I am town and yet despite being town he thinks I am Mafia. Not a compelling case and yet an accurate one.

LoW and Bozo make sense as the last two, but it's a good explanation for Bozo's EoD.

rdr is a bit of a wild card and doesn't feel like he fits with the team.

Null players I have essentially not thought of the entire game.

Like this post @sweet?

Yeah...really obviously townreading Ham D3....all the way...

This was before Ham explained himself. damo did not start treating the situation the way he did until AFTER Ham explained himself. Which is the SAME as me.

damo clearly said to hold off with Ham early D2.

I dunno why you're arguing about this. Here's a cookie. You did a good job. Now vote for scum....

[BunnyGo]

Hey! It looks like we can access D3 on the Bot except the last hour of the phase.

Just takes some link editing.

sweetandcool's ISO for D1: http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?g=88&part=Day%201&user=sweetandcool

Now just edit "Day%201" to "Day%203" in order to access my D3 ISO.

sweetandcool's ISO for D3: http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?g=88&part=Day%203&user=sweetandcool

This should work with any player, just obviously replace the username as appropriate.

You cold also just use the global statistics link. that works.

[BunnyGo]

Some thoughts before I call it a night. There is a lot to think over.

- Has BunnyGo claimed clerk yet or not? I got confused.

- Okay, here is something that is bugging me a bit. Ham's CLERK crumbs on Day 1 are very clear if you are looking for them. So, why wasn't he the target on night 1?

1) Mafia either weren't looking for crumbs, or didn't find them.

2) Mafia saw the crumbs and chose to ignore them (thinking them to be fake).

3) Ham is Mafia.

Can some more experienced players chime in: if you were Mafia, would you have looked for and found Ham's crumbs during N1?

- The two players who were most forcefully arguing to not kill Ham (well, I guess sweetandcool should be included here as well) were the NK and the RB target.

- In case anyone is curious (this is, of course, unofficial), here are the votes so far today in order:

wor: Ham*
Bun: Spa*
swe: Ham
swe: Dip
Bal: Boz
Bun: swe
Jam: Boz
boz: Bal
Bun: Bal*
Bun: kin*
boz: kin

I feel like I am living in the Twilight Zone. Was I really that forgettable D3?!

yes

[sweetandcool]

Like this post @sweet?

Yeah...really obviously townreading Ham D3....all the way...

This was before Ham explained himself. damo did not start treating the situation the way he did until AFTER Ham explained himself. Which is the SAME as me.

damo clearly said to hold off with Ham early D2.

I dunno why you're arguing about this. Here's a cookie. You did a good job. Now vote for scum....

My point is not for credit. My point is that you make an argument as to why Mafia thought damo was Cop and consequently why Ham is Town, when your argument could just as easily have applied to me.

It makes me paranoid that you and Ham are scummates and this was your plan to not just get him off the hook but create a deepscum.

The fact that you are advocating for a dodgy Cop reveal scene reinforces this feeling.

The fact that Sparta has come up with a good reason why Ham could be scum also makes for confusing situation. How can there be strong logical reasons for reading him either way?

I really don't like the gamestate now. Is it a coincidence? Is Bunny right but combining that with dodgy play? Is Sparta just scum confusing us? Yikes I don't know.

[BunnyGo]

This was before Ham explained himself. damo did not start treating the situation the way he did until AFTER Ham explained himself. Which is the SAME as me.

damo clearly said to hold off with Ham early D2.

I dunno why you're arguing about this. Here's a cookie. You did a good job. Now vote for scum....

My point is not for credit. My point is that you make an argument as to why Mafia thought damo was Cop and consequently why Ham is Town, when your argument could just as easily have applied to me.

It makes me paranoid that you and Ham are scummates and this was your plan to not just get him off the hook but create a deepscum.

The fact that you are advocating for a dodgy Cop reveal scene reinforces this feeling.

The fact that Sparta has come up with a good reason why Ham could be scum also makes for confusing situation. How can there be strong logical reasons for reading him either way?

I really don't like the gamestate now. Is it a coincidence? Is Bunny right but combining that with dodgy play? Is Sparta just scum confusing us? Yikes I don't know.

You're too self centered.

The argument DOES NOT work for you.

damo advocated waiting for Ham to talk before anything else. Loudly.

You scum read him early.

Sparta is scum.

I am town.

You are town.

Easy game.

[sweetandcool]

damo clearly said to hold off with Ham early D2.

I dunno why you're arguing about this. Here's a cookie. You did a good job. Now vote for scum....

My point is not for credit. My point is that you make an argument as to why Mafia thought damo was Cop and consequently why Ham is Town, when your argument could just as easily have applied to me.

It makes me paranoid that you and Ham are scummates and this was your plan to not just get him off the hook but create a deepscum.

The fact that you are advocating for a dodgy Cop reveal scene reinforces this feeling.

The fact that Sparta has come up with a good reason why Ham could be scum also makes for confusing situation. How can there be strong logical reasons for reading him either way?

I really don't like the gamestate now. Is it a coincidence? Is Bunny right but combining that with dodgy play? Is Sparta just scum confusing us? Yikes I don't know.

You're too self centered.

The argument DOES NOT work for you.

damo advocated waiting for Ham to talk before anything else. Loudly.

You scum read him early.

Sparta is scum.

I am town.

You are town.

Easy game.

Well at least that is a valid point.

[sweetandcool]

Okay bunny,

Now if you want me to stick my vote then please explain Bozo's EoD2 voting behavior.

##VOTE King

[Bonatogether]

has hamilton claimed a scan yet

[Bonatogether]

no more dumb shit

vote brian for a less aggravating town

##vote hamilton brian

[Jamiet99uk]

##VOTE Balki

##vote Balki
##end

Enough with the silly endvotes.

[Jamiet99uk]

Oh okay, then we should definitely not do the plan.

I have already figured out who the true cop is and noticed their scan crumbs. I'd rather not force them to be "obvious".

How easily findable do you think these crumbs are?

can we please vote Sparta?

Who is thinking the team was Just-Sparta-Balki-KoP?

In the space of half an hour you wanted to endhammer Balki, then you wanted to endhammer KingofPirates, and now you're advocating votes on Sparta despite not voting him yourself.

Have your forgotten to take your ADHD medication or are you just looking for spurious wagons to start and/or push?

Why the Brainbomb impression?

[Jamiet99uk]

has hamilton claimed a scan yet

He retracted his Cop claim like two days ago.

Why aren't you reading the thread?

[BunnyGo]

##VOTE Balki

##vote Balki
##end

Enough with the silly endvotes.

I find value in having a perpetual EOD

[BunnyGo]

How easily findable do you think these crumbs are?

can we please vote Sparta?

Who is thinking the team was Just-Sparta-Balki-KoP?

In the space of half an hour you wanted to endhammer Balki, then you wanted to endhammer KingofPirates, and now you're advocating votes on Sparta despite not voting him yourself.

Have your forgotten to take your ADHD medication or are you just looking for spurious wagons to start and/or push?

Why the Brainbomb impression?

Instead of distracting from the investigation with snide comments, you could investigate and hunt.

[Jamiet99uk]

can we please vote Sparta?

Who is thinking the team was Just-Sparta-Balki-KoP?

In the space of half an hour you wanted to endhammer Balki, then you wanted to endhammer KingofPirates, and now you're advocating votes on Sparta despite not voting him yourself.

Have your forgotten to take your ADHD medication or are you just looking for spurious wagons to start and/or push?

Why the Brainbomb impression?

Instead of distracting from the investigation with snide comments, you could investigate and hunt.

Genuine question, why are you spraying your vote around so much?

How does you voting KingofPirates for 90 seconds help hunt scum?

[Jamiet99uk]

Worcej has been super low energy all game.

That can be scum Worcej.

##Vote Worcej.

[Jamiet99uk]

Hello, Hamilton Brian.