Mafia 88: Murder at the Meadery - GAME THREAD

[rdrivera2005]

##vote Damo666

He is not helping and he is not sticking his neck out in any way. Maybe he is scum.

That reason is almost as good as Spartaculous.

I'm not alone.

[worcej]

##unvote Worcej

Who do you want to flashwagon instead?

Im fine conversing a bit and have you change my mind.

Its gotta be better than appealing through a pity party though.

I'm not seeking pity, just laughing at the potential outcome of suddenly me dying in an hour like normal D1 kills seems to happen lol

I honestly want to kill Balki right now - on my read, I felt he was far more performative today and almost whiny for no real reason. I feel like he tried to trap food with the bad commentary because it clearly came off that he was assuming he's bad atm

Jaime's reaction to sweet's move was a little over the top as well, but I don't think he'd be so opportunistic as scum. I lean more null on him, but it was rather meh from my standpoint.

I'm also not in the mood to flip Bona - I think he's clearly town and his parlay with will was exceptionally townie to me.

[Vecna]

Vecna gimme a hot read on bozo. you usually read him easier than anyone else on this site

I dont think this is particularly true, but I think he's town

[foodcoats]

you don't ever make points about shit in the game. this is shit about the game but not in the game. get real

I dont understand. Why is talking *about* the game not okay? And I do talk about stuff *in* the game as well

about the game is no insight, zero-utility. in the game is concrete and specific, which you have a severe deficit of

"No Insight, Zero Utility: The Official bonatogether Biography"

[worcej]

##vote Damo666

He is not helping and he is not sticking his neck out in any way. Maybe he is scum.

Could you point me a game where Damo was helpful on D1? This post and vote is completely odd for you.

Seconding this - Damo is normally not a driver of any sort on D1, but will lurk and ensure he doesn't die as any alignment

[rdrivera2005]

I won't quote it to keep the thread small, but I liked Sweet reads wall. Not that I agree with everything but I balanced my head on approval some times.

[Balki Bartokomous]

##vote Damo666

He is not helping and he is not sticking his neck out in any way. Maybe he is scum.

Could you point me a game where Damo was helpful on D1? This post and vote is completely odd for you.

No, but I don't like that defense.

If players aren't helping, and aren't expressing their thoughts, I am happy to vote for them. I'm happy to vote for you too frankly.

[rdrivera2005]

##vote Worcej

Im not completely convinced I should disregard the brainbomb slot entirely, but his little joyfull moments at my expense are probably more likely to come from town.

Bunny/Worcej/Foodcoats/HB are all people I want to vote.

I really don't get this list. Why Bunny and HB? They look towny to me.

[Vecna]

I won't quote it to keep the thread small, but I liked Sweet reads wall. Not that I agree with everything but I balanced my head on approval some times.

Why does approving the reads make the dude himself town though?

[Balki Bartokomous]

##vote Damo666

He is not helping and he is not sticking his neck out in any way. Maybe he is scum.

Could you point me a game where Damo was helpful on D1? This post and vote is completely odd for you.

Seconding this - Damo is normally not a driver of any sort on D1, but will lurk and ensure he doesn't die as any alignment

This is such a ridiculous piece of conventional wisdom and accepted norm on this site. Y'all should kill people who aren't helping and aren't expressing. Don't give people a pass for it.

Ridiculous, I say.

[brainbomb]

whats the logic behind voting food then?

Why did you think pirates was voting food, the vote at the time was on sweet.

It reads like you trusted food and didnt understand why pirate would be voting food there. Am I correct? Or did you mean to type sweet?

[Vecna]

whats the logic behind voting food then?

Why did you think pirates was voting food, the vote at the time was on sweet.

It reads like you trusted food and didnt understand why pirate would be voting food there. Am I correct? Or did you mean to type sweet?

didnt I correct that in the post after?

but yeah it was meant to say someone else if i remember correctly

[Balki Bartokomous]

I am cool with foodcoats or Damo.

I'm suspicious of Vecna.

The Bona wagon seems to be a reaction to his style. There are differing views on whether this is "just how he always is" or it's some scumtell. I don't really feel like I can weigh in on that intelligently, so I'm just going to kind of ignore the wagon. I don't really want to vote there.

Anyone else want to sell me something?

[rdrivera2005]

##vote Damo666

He is not helping and he is not sticking his neck out in any way. Maybe he is scum.

Could you point me a game where Damo was helpful on D1? This post and vote is completely odd for you.

No, but I don't like that defense.

If players aren't helping, and aren't expressing their thoughts, I am happy to vote for them. I'm happy to vote for you too frankly.

Go for it.

My point is not that he is helping but that he (and me too) always play this way and I don't remember you making this kind of policy voting on D1 before.

[Vecna]

##vote Worcej

Im not completely convinced I should disregard the brainbomb slot entirely, but his little joyfull moments at my expense are probably more likely to come from town.

Bunny/Worcej/Foodcoats/HB are all people I want to vote.

I really don't get this list. Why Bunny and HB? They look towny to me.

How on earth does HB look towny to anyone? I heard 1 person say they sound happy, and thats the only reasoning I heard so far.

Ive talked about the bunny read in-depth. Dude was way too fast to pass off a TR on me just because I pointed out he missed a single post number. Then he sheeped me twice on scummy people, in such a way as he set them up for justifiable future votes. Then he used another overly simplistic reason to TR me later on. All felt very artificial to me, but im sure its one of those occasions where you only notice it if it involves you.

[foodcoats]

Could you point me a game where Damo was helpful on D1? This post and vote is completely odd for you.

Seconding this - Damo is normally not a driver of any sort on D1, but will lurk and ensure he doesn't die as any alignment

This is such a ridiculous piece of conventional wisdom and accepted norm on this site. Y'all should kill people who aren't helping and aren't expressing. Don't give people a pass for it.

Ridiculous, I say.

I agree in general with the sentiment that people here have a major error of shielding certain players D1 "because they're better later." It's really dumb. That said I'm not so sure about damo anymore... and I don't think I'd vote for him now.

[foodcoats]

Alright Balki let's fight.

##VOTE Balki

[Balki Bartokomous]

Could you point me a game where Damo was helpful on D1? This post and vote is completely odd for you.

No, but I don't like that defense.

If players aren't helping, and aren't expressing their thoughts, I am happy to vote for them. I'm happy to vote for you too frankly.

Go for it.

My point is not that he is helping but that he (and me too) always play this way and I don't remember you making this kind of policy voting on D1 before.

Yeah, I don't think I have policy voted a Day 1 lurker before. But, ya know, maybe I want to do it this game.

I don't like "yeah he's always unhelpful as either alignment" defense, especially in a game like this one when we have a real shortage of people invested.

[rdrivera2005]

I won't quote it to keep the thread small, but I liked Sweet reads wall. Not that I agree with everything but I balanced my head on approval some times.

Why does approving the reads make the dude himself town though?

Because scum providing fake reads are usually really bad. I am not aproving the reads but the way he wrote it looks natural not fake.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Alright Balki let's fight.

##VOTE Balki

Go ahead. I'll die a martyr and come back more powerful than you can believe.