M1025 Game Thread

[Fluminator]

If it wasn't pride month I'd be voting Jamiet right now.

Your heart is there but this is an uncomfortable comment.

Why do you scumread Jamie?

It was funnier in my head and meant to be lighthearted but agreed it came out wrong in this context. Apologies.

I've been scumreading him since day 1, and nothing he's done has shown me that genuine frustration or scumhunting he usually has. Usually he's a locktown read for me.

[ghug]

Rrd was probably killed as a low info target. I've seen rdr nightkilled many times

I have advocated NKing rdrivera early in multiple games.

Is this one of them?

[President Eden]

##vote Eden

can't wait for whatever riveting mathematics went into this one

Consider the equation x = P + R + E + S + I + D + E + N + T, where x represents the alignment of "President Eden", and where town alignments = 1 and scum alignments < 1.

P + R + E + S + I + D + E + N + T = P + R + E + S + I + D + (E + D + E + N) + T. By rearranging, we obtain P + R + E + S + I + D + E + N + T = (P + R + E + S + I + D) + (E + D + E + N) + T. We can abbreviate (P + R + E + S + I + D) as PRIDE, and (E + D + E + N) can be expressed as 2E + D + N. Hence, our equation now reads x = PRIDE + (2E + D + N) + T. We subtract PRIDE and T from both sides, resulting in x - PRIDE - T = 2E + D + N. We establish that the value of 2E + D + N is less than 1, signifying that the enigma of "President Eden" assumes a magnitude beneath the unitary threshold. Or, to put it another way, he is scum.

what happened to the S in "PRESID" when you abbreviated it to "PRIDE"?

seems you forgot to multiply it back in, and it's well known that a negative times a negative is a positive, so scum times scum = town

[President Eden]

Rrd was probably killed as a low info target. I've seen rdr nightkilled many times

I have advocated NKing rdrivera early in multiple games.

what did he mean by this

[bozotheclown]

Rrd was probably killed as a low info target. I've seen rdr nightkilled many times

That's plausible, but why not kill brain who is widely townread and a high poster?

If he is town, I think making sure I get mis-killed at some point is part of the reason.

[Jamiet99uk]

If it wasn't pride month I'd be voting Jamiet right now.

Your heart is there but this is an uncomfortable comment.

Why do you scumread Jamie?

It was funnier in my head and meant to be lighthearted but agreed it came out wrong in this context. Apologies.

I've been scumreading him since day 1, and nothing he's done has shown me that genuine frustration or scumhunting he usually has. Usually he's a locktown read for me.

Is this satire?

[bozotheclown]

For me today the pool is Bozo, Chaqa, Damo, Flum, Pyxxy.

Maybe you are mafia after all.

[Fluminator]

Your heart is there but this is an uncomfortable comment.

Why do you scumread Jamie?

It was funnier in my head and meant to be lighthearted but agreed it came out wrong in this context. Apologies.

I've been scumreading him since day 1, and nothing he's done has shown me that genuine frustration or scumhunting he usually has. Usually he's a locktown read for me.

Is this satire?

No, the apology is genuine. It was meant to be poking fun at the weak performative allyship I see sometimes but it didn't come out right.

[Jamiet99uk]

It was funnier in my head and meant to be lighthearted but agreed it came out wrong in this context. Apologies.

I've been scumreading him since day 1, and nothing he's done has shown me that genuine frustration or scumhunting he usually has. Usually he's a locktown read for me.

Is this satire?

No, the apology is genuine. It was meant to be poking fun at the weak performative allyship I see sometimes but it didn't come out right.

No I meant the bit where you said "usually he's a locktown read for me".

This is nonsense, you scumread me the majority of games we're in, I'm sure of it.

[bozotheclown]

@brain you commented on me being different this game to last.

I'll tell you why.

Last game was mechanics heavy, this one is near vanilla.

I was town last time and I'm town this. I would never have allowed an rdr kill. I'd have killed ghug. Obviously.

that’s actually fascinating because I don’t see ghug as obvtown at all

plausibly just a skill issue on my part, but I’m more curious how you can be confident in who you would kill here more than about who it is per se

I'm just assuming ghug is town. I don't see anything particularly dodgy in him. He usually does something when scum that I can suss.

I think ghug is mafia based primarily on his starting my D1 wagon for a weak reason them leaving my wagon when it picked up momentum, only to try to get me DKed at EOD.

[Fluminator]

Is this satire?

No, the apology is genuine. It was meant to be poking fun at the weak performative allyship I see sometimes but it didn't come out right.

No I meant the bit where you said "usually he's a locktown read for me".

This is nonsense, you scumread me the majority of games we're in, I'm sure of it.

Oh, no you're always pretty easy to read to me. The only time I ever got you wrong was when I shot you instantly without giving you a chance to explain yourself.

[bozotheclown]

Kinda how I feel. This helps narrow the PoE for me at least.

I was fairly confident rdrivera was town, and that he might be the NK, but Fluminator was a good doctor target also.

Why would you say this in the thread?

Where else would I say it?

[ghug]

I was fairly confident rdrivera was town, and that he might be the NK, but Fluminator was a good doctor target also.

Why would you say this in the thread?

Where else would I say it?

You'd think it to yourself and not out a PR read?

[bozotheclown]

likely docsave

So then why not kill Bunny or me?

Yeah!

I thought I was done with the game since no doc would ever save me and I’m widely townread.

Being widely town read is your scum tell.

[Jamiet99uk]

I was fairly confident rdrivera was town, and that he might be the NK, but Fluminator was a good doctor target also.

Why would you say this in the thread?

Where else would I say it?

I assume he means, why did you feel the need to speculate about whether someone is a PR, at all?

[bozotheclown]

Fluminator you may want to read this post:

worcej wanted bozo to die
rdrivera wanted bozo not to die

does either death indicate anything about bozo?

so we can conclude that mafia minimally assisted with worcej dying (if bozo is town)

which makes the nightkill maybe about rdriveras townreads on bozo-ghug-bunny

or we can conclude mafia may have came out in full effort to save bozo (if bozo is scum)

Or we can conclude mafia was not heavily involved in saving scum bozo and they just got lucky

which makes the nk on rivera total wifom meant to make us think that rivera died because he had bozo as town when its actually the opposite

or im overly obsessed with bozo being scum and no one is willing to entertain the idea anymore.

or rivera died because if they kill me its way too obvious so they just picked someone who townread bozo to make it look clean

This is a post by Brainbomb in which he says "bozo" a lot.

What do you think of Bozo, so far?

I had no interest in killing bozo day 1 because I think he's very useful later in the game if he's town and he usually gets a freebie from me since he's often miskilled.

One of my meta reads on him is how paranoid he is of being buddied though, and he made one post sort of defending me saying he was biased in favour of me because I was voting to save him, and that is something I'd never have expected town bozo to say.
Outside of that, I don't have anything else to see him as scum yet. I feel like eod was calm enough that scum wasn't scrambling to save him and it felt more TvT so I think I lean him being town still.

I have already covered this, but everyone who did not want to DK me D1 can't be mafia, and I don't think it is likely you would try to pocket me if you were mafia. Also, you stood to draw suspicion for trying to prevent my DK at the time you did, which does not seem like somthing scum would do.

[Jamiet99uk]

Bozo, are BunnyGo and Ghug still your two top scumreads?

[bozotheclown]

Can anyone answer my question if they ever read the flavour before the reveal?
If I can find one other person who does that I'll probably feel more at ease lol.

I don't.

[bozotheclown]

##vote bozotheclown

i think i need to know this to make any headway

That is a big change from your previous position, but not unexpected since I suspect you are mafia.

[bozotheclown]

Rrd was probably killed as a low info target. I've seen rdr nightkilled many times

I have advocated NKing rdrivera early in multiple games.

Is this one of them?

If I remember correctly we agreed to NK rdrivera early when we were both mafia at least once.