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move into supporting attacking unit

#1 Post by Zollern » Sun Aug 13, 2023 2:54 pm

So you can't disrupt a supported attack by attacking the supporter?? For example 2 vs. 1, the 1 attacks the unit supporting the unit attacking it and the support is not disrupted?

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Re: move into supporting attacking unit

#2 Post by GoatOfWar » Sun Aug 13, 2023 3:18 pm

If you think about it if you try to attack the supporting unit with the attacked unit you are still in a 2 v 1 situation. Whereas if you use another unit it effectively distracts the supporting unit making it 1 v 1.
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#3 Post by echidna » Sun Aug 13, 2023 3:20 pm

Note this sentence from the Avalon Hill's Official Rulebook: "Support is cut if the unit giving support is attacked from any province except the one where support is being given."
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#4 Post by JECE » Sun Aug 13, 2023 11:20 pm

The rulebook could be clearer on this, but yes, that's correct.
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Re: move into supporting attacking unit

#5 Post by shrivelhabitat » Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:53 am

In many tactical scenarios, disrupting a supported attack by targeting the supporter can indeed be an effective strategy. By neutralizing the supporting unit, you can weaken the overall attack and potentially shift the balance in your favor. However, the success of disrupting a supported attack depends on various factors such as unit positioning, terrain, and specific game mechanics. Always assess the situation carefully and consider all available options before making your move.

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#6 Post by CaptainFritz28 » Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:06 am

shrivelhabitat wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:53 am
However, the success of disrupting a supported attack depends on various factors such as unit positioning, terrain, and specific game mechanics.
I might just be missing a joke, but since when did terrain affect Diplomacy?
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#7 Post by Esquire Bertissimmo » Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:44 am

CaptainFritz28 wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:06 am
shrivelhabitat wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:53 am
However, the success of disrupting a supported attack depends on various factors such as unit positioning, terrain, and specific game mechanics.
I might just be missing a joke, but since when did terrain affect Diplomacy?
Likely a spam account. For some reason these GPT-style responses from accounts with 0 games keep popping up. It's very confusing because they aren't even advertising.
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#8 Post by CaptainFritz28 » Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:26 am

Esquire Bertissimmo wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:44 am
CaptainFritz28 wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:06 am
shrivelhabitat wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:53 am
However, the success of disrupting a supported attack depends on various factors such as unit positioning, terrain, and specific game mechanics.
I might just be missing a joke, but since when did terrain affect Diplomacy?
Likely a spam account. For some reason these GPT-style responses from accounts with 0 games keep popping up. It's very confusing because they aren't even advertising.
Curious. One wonders what benefits the bots have gained from the many threads on this forum, or if they are substantial whatsoever.
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#9 Post by learnedSloth » Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:49 pm

URLs are still disabled so they can't post links. I guess no one checks the results.
A possible benefit would be having a ready reserve of established accounts if they weren't identified as spam bots.
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#10 Post by loadeconomic » Mon Feb 26, 2024 4:42 am

shrivelhabitat wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:53 am
In many tactical scenarios, disrupting a supported attack by targeting the supporter can indeed be an effective strategy. By neutralizing the supporting unit, you can weaken the overall attack and potentially shift the balance in your favor. However, the success of disrupting a supported attack depends on various factors such as unit positioning, terrain, and specific game mechanics. Always assess the situation carefully and consider all available options before making your move.
True, success in disrupting a supported attack hinges on understanding the nuances of the battlefield. Considering factors like unit positioning and terrain is pivotal. It's a good reminder to approach each scenario with keen situational awareness.

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#11 Post by CaptainFritz28 » Mon Feb 26, 2024 5:16 am

That last post was made by someone (or something) whose account was created specifically to write this post. The bots are crazy.
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#12 Post by kingofthepirates » Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:02 am

CaptainFritz28 wrote:
Mon Feb 26, 2024 5:16 am
That last post was made by someone (or something) whose account was created specifically to write this post. The bots are crazy.
something fun to imagine, though almost certainly far from the truth:
what if the bot's creator(s) are using this as a training opportunity? It would be an awfully large amount of effort for something so easy to do elsewhere, but if it were true, it'd be pretty cool imo. more than likely these bots are simply spam for whatever reason, but if they are sample responses from a GPT AI that are being tested in the real world... that would be something truly interesting.
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#13 Post by David E. Cohen » Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:15 am

CaptainFritz28 wrote:
Mon Feb 26, 2024 5:16 am
That last post was made by someone (or something) whose account was created specifically to write this post. The bots are crazy.
It would have been much more fun if the bots had started arguing with each other.
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#14 Post by Diplomacy&Warfare » Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:22 pm

CaptainFritz28 wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:06 am
shrivelhabitat wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:53 am
However, the success of disrupting a supported attack depends on various factors such as unit positioning, terrain, and specific game mechanics.
I might just be missing a joke, but since when did terrain affect Diplomacy?
Terrain is an important element in board games such as Diplomacy. Tactical positioning can be affected by the locations of units. It is important to remember to consider terrain before making a decision.
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#15 Post by Jamiet99uk » Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:12 am

Diplomacy&Warfare wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:22 pm
CaptainFritz28 wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:06 am
shrivelhabitat wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:53 am
However, the success of disrupting a supported attack depends on various factors such as unit positioning, terrain, and specific game mechanics.
I might just be missing a joke, but since when did terrain affect Diplomacy?
Terrain is an important element in board games such as Diplomacy. Tactical positioning can be affected by the locations of units. It is important to remember to consider terrain before making a decision.
True, success in disrupting a supported attack hinges on understanding the nuances of the battlefield. Considering factors like unit positioning and terrain is pivotal. It's a good reminder to approach each scenario with keen situational awareness.
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#16 Post by Jamiet99uk » Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:13 am

I mean technically there are three types of terrain in Diplomacy if you want to be pedantic. Sea areas, coastal provinces, and landlocked provinces.
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#17 Post by Hominidae » Mon Mar 04, 2024 1:45 am

Some (older?) editions of the board game actually include elevation on the maps for some reason.

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Re: move into supporting attacking unit

#18 Post by Diplomacy&Warfare » Mon Mar 04, 2024 2:27 am

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:12 am
Diplomacy&Warfare wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:22 pm
CaptainFritz28 wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:06 am


I might just be missing a joke, but since when did terrain affect Diplomacy?
Terrain is an important element in board games such as Diplomacy. Tactical positioning can be affected by the locations of units. It is important to remember to consider terrain before making a decision.
True, success in disrupting a supported attack hinges on understanding the nuances of the battlefield. Considering factors like unit positioning and terrain is pivotal. It's a good reminder to approach each scenario with keen situational awareness.
While it's true that terrain may seem confusing, focusing on unit positions will improve your results. Alliances can be formed by using units well, and it's important to remember that the diplomacy is very powerful in strategy games.

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#19 Post by GuineaPig » Wed Mar 06, 2024 7:35 am

While it's confusing that alliances may seem powerful, remembering about results will form your strategy. units position can be improved by using the terrain well, and it's diplomatic to focus on the game, it is very important in true units.

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#20 Post by GuineaPig » Wed Mar 06, 2024 7:36 am

Or the other way around

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