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Jn'j n wvkkwt.

#1 Post by burner » Sat Sep 14, 2024 5:37 am

Ubv smila tjzjgg is gggg "b vpjw wmjrttwif pmjk qhqguxq efv tni srfklx ostu ml "xiiqmj"" xcef. Aywb qg poer zwg, lbyybyc? Kovatlt. W'es ovbm esku fekte U quves.

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#2 Post by burner » Sat Sep 14, 2024 6:12 am

Hint: use shgslwavwakkxblrl to
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#3 Post by DiplomacyandWarfare » Sat Sep 14, 2024 1:47 pm

jkign inmgd thes gind glpn nhtbb lvofv
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#4 Post by DarthPorg36 » Sat Sep 14, 2024 4:44 pm

burner wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2024 6:12 am
Hint: use shgslwavwakkxblrl to
Look to a mad rooster.
Wonder what type of cipher is being used...

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#5 Post by DougJoe » Mon Sep 16, 2024 5:05 am

DarthPorg36 wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2024 4:44 pm
burner wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2024 6:12 am
Hint: use shgslwavwakkxblrl to
Look to a mad rooster.
Wonder what type of cipher is being used...
Don't know. Feels polyalphabetic but I tried some Vigenère tools on it and didn't get anywhere. One anaylsis tool thinks it's Vigenère autokey...

Not sure if the rooster is angry or insane. Certainly don't get the clue.

The capital J at the beginning of the post title as well starting some of the poll choices feels like it decrypts to 'I'. The "Ubzf mj" repeated in the poll answers is interesting along with the "Ubv" at the start of the long post.

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#6 Post by Pengwinja » Mon Sep 16, 2024 5:16 pm

I have devoted much of my time to this thing, and all i got was a guess that it was a Chaocypher, but it seems like there is too much repetition to be a Chaocypher.
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#7 Post by burner » Mon Sep 16, 2024 9:53 pm

"le chiffre indechifferable" step 1:

Looktoamadrooster

"le chiffre indechifferable" step 2:

shgslwavwakkxblrl

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#8 Post by DougJoe » Tue Sep 17, 2024 3:52 am

burner wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 9:53 pm
"le chiffre indechifferable" step 1:

Looktoamadrooster

"le chiffre indechifferable" step 2:

shgslwavwakkxblrl
The fact that there are two steps is a little confusing to me. I tried a couple of things with this but didn't get anywhere. I'm sure it's something obvious that I'm missing - it always is.

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#9 Post by burner » Tue Sep 17, 2024 4:13 am

DougJoe wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2024 3:52 am
burner wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 9:53 pm
"le chiffre indechifferable" step 1:

Looktoamadrooster

"le chiffre indechifferable" step 2:

shgslwavwakkxblrl
The fact that there are two steps is a little confusing to me. I tried a couple of things with this but didn't get anywhere. I'm sure it's something obvious that I'm missing - it always is.
Admittedly, the hint may have been poorly worded.

So, to make up for that, here's a link to a helpful website:

https://cryptii.com

Free information, I did not use the enigma, it's just the default.

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#10 Post by DarthPorg36 » Tue Sep 17, 2024 3:31 pm

DougJoe wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2024 3:52 am
burner wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 9:53 pm
"le chiffre indechifferable" step 1:

Looktoamadrooster

"le chiffre indechifferable" step 2:

shgslwavwakkxblrl
The fact that there are two steps is a little confusing to me. I tried a couple of things with this but didn't get anywhere. I'm sure it's something obvious that I'm missing - it always is.
I desperately want to figure this out but none of the ciphers I've tried seem to be working... I'll post my ideas in a second.

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#11 Post by DarthPorg36 » Tue Sep 17, 2024 4:10 pm

Ok. So my thoughts so far have been as follows:

What cipher this is is unclear, although I assume it is one mainly alphabet-based and with a keyword or two, likely the hints that burner gave us. This cipher may need a double-decoding, with each key, or some sort of other two step problem. I find this likely, as most websites can't give any meaningful results with single-encryption.

On the other hand, we may be over thinking this. "Jn'j n wvkkwt" seems to me to likely solve to "It's a cipher" or "It's a puzzle", given the apostrophes and general flow of english words. The repeated J's at the beginning would almost certainly be "I" (I'm in the case of J'g) - so I'm guessing the poll for response is a sort of "What did you think about the cipher" idea. "Ubzf mj" is repeated. So the same code is probably used, and this is probable the same words.

There is seemingly no direct letter replacement, which confuses me. Rules out many ciphers. The other possibility is that if this is a two-step problem, letters that are different could have been substituted to the same one somehow? Anyone else have some thoughts?

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#12 Post by CaptainFritz28 » Tue Sep 17, 2024 4:24 pm

I think it's a one step cipher. In all likelihood, the "steps" given are a means of giving us a key. My guess is that "shgslwavwakkxblrl" is equivalent to "looktoamadrooster," especially since they hold the same number of letters.
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#13 Post by burner » Tue Sep 17, 2024 6:20 pm

When I mention "le chiffre indechifferable," I'm talking about the 1586 edition. Not the 1553. I hope that opens some doors. Speaking of doors, Look to a mad rooster.

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#14 Post by DarthPorg36 » Tue Sep 17, 2024 11:50 pm

Got it. Through a Vigenère Cipher with "autokey" and using shgslwavwakkxblrl to looktoamadrooster you can decipher how much each letter has been shifted. This leads to a letter code. -> "Thisisaredherring"

Thanks, burner. "This is a red herring"

If there's more to this puzzle I would love to solve it. Maybe this whole poll is a red herring, and we're all fools. Anyway, if anyone figures out a way to make more progress, here's what I've figured out.

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#15 Post by burner » Wed Sep 18, 2024 12:07 am

Well that was fun for me. Good job DarthPorg :lol:

There is more to the puzzle. I'll give real hints now, no longer red herrings. I hope this one's not a giveaway. It's always hard to know whether you've given too much or too little in a hint

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#16 Post by DougJoe » Wed Sep 18, 2024 2:36 am

DarthPorg36 wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2024 4:10 pm
On the other hand, we may be over thinking this. "Jn'j n wvkkwt" seems to me to likely solve to "It's a cipher" or "It's a puzzle", given the apostrophes and general flow of english words. The repeated J's at the beginning would almost certainly be "I" (I'm in the case of J'g) - so I'm guessing the poll for response is a sort of "What did you think about the cipher" idea. "Ubzf mj" is repeated. So the same code is probably used, and this is probable the same words.
I was thinking "It's a puzzle" or "It's a riddle", but "It's a cipher" works too.

I suspect "Ubzf mj" is "This is" (which might mean Ubv in the big block of ciphertext is "The"). But it could also be "What is" and "Why". I was also thinking about the title of the poll being something like what you suggested.
DarthPorg36 wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2024 11:50 pm
Got it. Through a Vigenère Cipher with "autokey" and using shgslwavwakkxblrl to looktoamadrooster you can decipher how much each letter has been shifted. This leads to a letter code. -> "Thisisaredherring"

Thanks, burner. "This is a red herring"

If there's more to this puzzle I would love to solve it. Maybe this whole poll is a red herring, and we're all fools. Anyway, if anyone figures out a way to make more progress, here's what I've figured out.
I didn't actually try using one on the other but tried using both on the big block of ciphertext. Heh. Too busy earlier today to put any further effort into it unfortunately.

...except I just played around with it now and I have the following to say:

i have decrypted your message and the secret word is "burner".

I was right about "Ubv" = The and "Ubzf mj" This is.

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#17 Post by DougJoe » Wed Sep 18, 2024 2:45 am

...cryptii.com was nice because it does the encrypt/decrypt as you type. Other sites I found did not do that. I set it to autokey (as the earlier analysis I had done suggested) and just modified the keyword to make the first three letters of the cypher text decrypt to "The". When I saw that the keyword started with "bur", it was a facepalm moment to the obvious. Can't believe I didn't try that right off the cuff.

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#18 Post by burner » Wed Sep 18, 2024 3:29 am

DougJoe wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2024 2:36 am

i have decrypted your message and the secret word is "burner".
Congratulations, you win! :-D This is correct. I used a vigenere autokey cypher and used the rather uninspired keyword "burner."

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#19 Post by burner » Wed Sep 18, 2024 5:38 am

I'll post the full translation eventually. Just giving people time to decypher it themselves if they'd like to do that for fun. I will say that I found it amusing that most people chose the option in the poll that says: "this is absolutely not the correct answer"

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#20 Post by DarthPorg36 » Wed Sep 18, 2024 11:45 am

This has been extremely fun! We should do more decryption games in the future

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