Idea for a New Variant: Every Country Gets a Player

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Idea for a New Variant: Every Country Gets a Player

#1 Post by Pinecone333 » Sat Mar 21, 2020 3:01 pm

Hi! First-time poster here, so I don't know if this is where this should go, but I had a thought this morning about what might make for an interesting variant of the classic Diplomacy game: What if every country in Europe started with a player controlling it. In other words, what if Belgium, Holland, Spain, Portugal, Serbia, Greece, Rumania, Bulgaria, Denmark, Sweden, and Norway were all player-controlled and each had an army (or navy) defending them at the start of the game?

It would make for a slower game, as it would take the bigger powers much greater effort to conquer the smaller territories. But it would also make for much more interesting Diplomacy. If you were playing as one of the little countries, you would have to work quickly to form alliances with your neighbors to protect yourself (or to work together to eat your other neighbors). If you were a big country, you would need to decide whether it would be better to try to slowly your smaller neighbors out, or whether diplomacy with them would be worth it in the long run.

I don't know, it might make for a very boring variant. Certainly it would have to be played with Sum-of-Squares scoring to be any fun. But I think it does have potential to be interesting. What do people think?
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#2 Post by Claesar » Sat Mar 21, 2020 3:19 pm

This exists already. Join a Chaos game and enjoy!

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#3 Post by gimix » Sat Mar 21, 2020 6:31 pm

It seems OP was thinking about something still different, where the traditional powers still have their usual home centres, while each neutral becomes a 1-centre "small power"...
Half Classic and half Chaos, but even more chaotic than Chaos imho :o
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#4 Post by Claesar » Sat Mar 21, 2020 6:40 pm

Sounds like something vDiplomacy might do!
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#5 Post by Pinecone333 » Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:19 pm

Yeah, the half classic, half chaos thing was what I was suggesting. How does one submit an idea to vDiplomacy? I don't know how to program a map myself.
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#6 Post by Sleepcap » Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:28 pm

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#7 Post by Pinecone333 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:32 am

That actually looks like a blast. Not quite what I was thinking of, but close

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#8 Post by Pinecone333 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:34 am

I set a game up over there if anyone wants to join!
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#9 Post by Flame » Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:21 pm

I find it interesting. Big powers and minors. Let's do it!

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#10 Post by faircell21 » Wed Apr 15, 2020 5:29 pm

How do you play a vdip game and make an account? I tried using my webdip login and it wouldn’t work, but when I tried to register with my email it said I already had an account. So I did the forgot username and password thing with my email and it said I don’t have an account with that email

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#11 Post by THC » Thu Apr 16, 2020 7:37 am

I've had the same issue.

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#12 Post by Claesar » Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:51 pm

Interesting, I created a vDip account with the same email address. Try contacting their mod team.

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#13 Post by cdazz30 » Thu Apr 16, 2020 7:04 pm

What is the difference between that site and this one?

I agree that variant looks like a lot of fun!

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#14 Post by Claesar » Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:29 am

vDip is our sister site. They have a different mod team and offer a lot of variants. The player base is a lot smaller though. Some of their best maps make it to webDip, after the bugs have been taken out.
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