Twenty Questions: Game 220

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Re: Twenty Questions: Game 220

by Hominidae » Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:00 pm

JECE wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 11, 2024 6:52 pm
Hominidae wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 11, 2024 6:29 pm
JECE wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 11, 2024 5:47 pm

I actually drafted the question to be a little longer, something like: "Born in a city or locality [that is currently in] a country or territory that is currently a member of APEC or ASEAN?" But that would have been more difficult to read and understand, as well as redundant: a locality currently within a modern-day country is still a locality "of" a modern-day country.
I would have just said, "Born in an area that is currently part of an APEC or ASEAN country?"
I don't see a difference between "area" and "city or locality". Pedantry has its place in a game like this, but not to the point of hypercorrection. As to the length of my question, surely there were shorter options available that I didn't use, but there are caveats there, as not all members of APEC are countries.
The key distinction is "currently part of".

Re: Twenty Questions: Game 220

by JECE » Mon Mar 11, 2024 6:52 pm

Hominidae wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 11, 2024 6:29 pm
JECE wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 11, 2024 5:47 pm
Hominidae wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:46 pm

Fair enough, but if someone was born there in 1400, they weren't born in a locality in Mexico, because Mexico didn't exist yet. They were born in what would one day become part of Mexico.
I actually drafted the question to be a little longer, something like: "Born in a city or locality [that is currently in] a country or territory that is currently a member of APEC or ASEAN?" But that would have been more difficult to read and understand, as well as redundant: a locality currently within a modern-day country is still a locality "of" a modern-day country.
I would have just said, "Born in an area that is currently part of an APEC or ASEAN country?"
I don't see a difference between "area" and "city or locality". Pedantry has its place in a game like this, but not to the point of hypercorrection. As to the length of my question, surely there were shorter options available that I didn't use, but there are caveats there, as not all members of APEC are countries.

Re: Twenty Questions: Game 220

by Hominidae » Mon Mar 11, 2024 6:29 pm

JECE wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 11, 2024 5:47 pm
Hominidae wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:46 pm
JECE wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:02 pm

I've been to Teotihuacán. It's very much a real "locality" in Mexico. See for yourself the definition of locality if you like:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/locality
Fair enough, but if someone was born there in 1400, they weren't born in a locality in Mexico, because Mexico didn't exist yet. They were born in what would one day become part of Mexico.
I actually drafted the question to be a little longer, something like: "Born in a city or locality [that is currently in] a country or territory that is currently a member of APEC or ASEAN?" But that would have been more difficult to read and understand, as well as redundant: a locality currently within a modern-day country is still a locality "of" a modern-day country.
I would have just said, "Born in an area that is currently part of an APEC or ASEAN country?"

Re: Twenty Questions: Game 220

by JECE » Mon Mar 11, 2024 5:47 pm

Hominidae wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:46 pm
JECE wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:02 pm
Hominidae wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 11, 2024 9:29 am

The phrasing is still vague. For example, Teotihuacan is a city within the current borders of Mexico, but it's not "a city in Mexico".
I've been to Teotihuacán. It's very much a real "locality" in Mexico. See for yourself the definition of locality if you like:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/locality
Fair enough, but if someone was born there in 1400, they weren't born in a locality in Mexico, because Mexico didn't exist yet. They were born in what would one day become part of Mexico.
I actually drafted the question to be a little longer, something like: "Born in a city or locality [that is currently in] a country or territory that is currently a member of APEC or ASEAN?" But that would have been more difficult to read and understand, as well as redundant: a locality currently within a modern-day country is still a locality "of" a modern-day country.

Re: Twenty Questions: Game 220

by Hominidae » Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:46 pm

JECE wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:02 pm
Hominidae wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 11, 2024 9:29 am
JECE wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:58 am

The way that I phrased it wasn't vague. For example, Lugdunum (Lyon) is a locality of the modern country of France.
The phrasing is still vague. For example, Teotihuacan is a city within the current borders of Mexico, but it's not "a city in Mexico".
I've been to Teotihuacán. It's very much a real "locality" in Mexico. See for yourself the definition of locality if you like:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/locality
Fair enough, but if someone was born there in 1400, they weren't born in a locality in Mexico, because Mexico didn't exist yet. They were born in what would one day become part of Mexico.

Re: Twenty Questions: Game 220

by JECE » Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:02 pm

Hominidae wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 11, 2024 9:29 am
JECE wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:58 am
Hominidae wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:28 pm



(Not a question for the QM.)

These questions are a bit vague considering that this person is dead and we don't know how old they are. Would someone born in Roman Gaul be counted as born in "France", for example?
The way that I phrased it wasn't vague. For example, Lugdunum (Lyon) is a locality of the modern country of France.
The phrasing is still vague. For example, Teotihuacan is a city within the current borders of Mexico, but it's not "a city in Mexico".
I've been to Teotihuacán. It's very much a real "locality" in Mexico. See for yourself the definition of locality if you like:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/locality

Re: Twenty Questions: Game 220

by damo666 » Mon Mar 11, 2024 12:39 pm

wintergreen wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:05 am
damo666 wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:04 am
 Free guess: Idi Amin?
That's right. The last king of Scotland has conquered WebDiplomacy as well.
New game up shortly.

Re: Twenty Questions: Game 220

by wintergreen » Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:05 am

damo666 wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:04 am
 Free guess: Idi Amin?
That's right. The last king of Scotland has conquered WebDiplomacy as well.

Re: Twenty Questions: Game 220

by damo666 » Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:04 am

Free guess: Idi Amin?

Re: Twenty Questions: Game 220

by wintergreen » Mon Mar 11, 2024 10:59 am

damo666 wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 11, 2024 9:55 am
 Died after 1999?
Yes.
Hominidae wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 11, 2024 10:25 am
 Leader of Ethiopia, Nigeria, Mali, Niger, Ghana, Cameroon, the DRC, Kenya, Uganda, Tanzania, Angola, Mozambique, or Madagscar? (Or one of those countries under a different name.)
Yes.

Re: Twenty Questions: Game 220

by Hominidae » Mon Mar 11, 2024 10:25 am

Leader of Ethiopia, Nigeria, Mali, Niger, Ghana, Cameroon, the DRC, Kenya, Uganda, Tanzania, Angola, Mozambique, or Madagscar? (Or one of those countries under a different name.)

Re: Twenty Questions: Game 220

by damo666 » Mon Mar 11, 2024 9:55 am

Died after 1999?

Re: Twenty Questions: Game 220

by wintergreen » Mon Mar 11, 2024 9:36 am

Hominidae wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 11, 2024 9:34 am
 Was this person the head of state and/or government of a country in Western, Middle, or Eastern Africa by the UN geoscheme? For simplicity I'll say that pre-2011 Sudan would be a "no".
Yes.

Re: Twenty Questions: Game 220

by Hominidae » Mon Mar 11, 2024 9:34 am

Was this person the head of state and/or government of a country in Western, Middle, or Eastern Africa by the UN geoscheme? For simplicity I'll say that pre-2011 Sudan would be a "no".

Re: Twenty Questions: Game 220

by Hominidae » Mon Mar 11, 2024 9:29 am

JECE wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:58 am
Hominidae wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:28 pm
kingofthepirates wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:18 pm
 born in: France, Germany, Russia, Spain, Italy, or Greece?
JECE wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:23 pm
 Born in a city or locality of a country or territory that is currently a member of APEC or ASEAN?
(Not a question for the QM.)

These questions are a bit vague considering that this person is dead and we don't know how old they are. Would someone born in Roman Gaul be counted as born in "France", for example?
The way that I phrased it wasn't vague. For example, Lugdunum (Lyon) is a locality of the modern country of France.
The phrasing is still vague. For example, Teotihuacan is a city within the current borders of Mexico, but it's not "a city in Mexico".

Re: Twenty Questions: Game 220

by wintergreen » Mon Mar 11, 2024 8:32 am

Hominidae wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 10, 2024 11:33 pm
 Is this a head of state and/or head of government?
Yes.
han-shahanshah wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:02 am
 Born in South America?
No.

Re: Twenty Questions: Game 220

by JECE » Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:58 am

Hominidae wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:28 pm
kingofthepirates wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:18 pm
 born in: France, Germany, Russia, Spain, Italy, or Greece?
JECE wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:23 pm
 Born in a city or locality of a country or territory that is currently a member of APEC or ASEAN?
(Not a question for the QM.)

These questions are a bit vague considering that this person is dead and we don't know how old they are. Would someone born in Roman Gaul be counted as born in "France", for example?
The way that I phrased it wasn't vague. For example, Lugdunum (Lyon) is a locality of the modern country of France.

Re: Twenty Questions: Game 220

by han-shahanshah » Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:02 am

Born in South America?

Re: Twenty Questions: Game 220

by Hominidae » Sun Mar 10, 2024 11:33 pm

Is this a head of state and/or head of government?

Re: Twenty Questions: Game 220

by wintergreen » Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:53 pm

Aristocrat wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:52 pm
 Born after 1875?
Yes.

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