Twenty Questions - Game 110

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Re: Twenty Questions - Game 110

by Szpoti » Sun Apr 30, 2023 1:52 pm

Up and running. Good luck!

Re: Twenty Questions - Game 110

by Szpoti » Sun Apr 30, 2023 1:41 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 30, 2023 11:08 am
 @Szpoti, it is your turn
Yup, sure. Socially busy Sunday. Thinking about what obscure Brit to employ.

Re: Twenty Questions - Game 110

by damo666 » Sun Apr 30, 2023 11:51 am

damo666 wrote: ↑
Fri Apr 28, 2023 11:46 pm
 Free guess: Boris Spassky
Quite pleased with this guess now

Re: Twenty Questions - Game 110

by Jamiet99uk » Sun Apr 30, 2023 11:08 am

@Szpoti, it is your turn

Re: Twenty Questions - Game 110

by Foxcastle » Sat Apr 29, 2023 7:05 pm

Szpoti wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:09 pm
 I think Q7 is the culprit of the confusion. We should avoid asking complex questions of this sort since they can generate a positive answer to any positive constituent.
These lists of potential classifications have been very helpful, actually, and we usually get pretty good return on them.

Re: Twenty Questions - Game 110

by Foxcastle » Sat Apr 29, 2023 6:58 pm

damo666 wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:30 pm
Foxcastle wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:42 pm
 Primarily known for being a chess player?
How many apolitical live retired chess players can you think of off the top of your head.
Certainly more than the number of darts players I could even recognize given a list of famous darts players...

Re: Twenty Questions - Game 110

by sweetandcool » Sat Apr 29, 2023 6:42 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 29, 2023 5:31 pm
Szpoti wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:09 pm
 I think Q7 is the culprit of the confusion. We should avoid asking complex questions of this sort since they can generate a positive answer to any positive constituent.
I disagree.

There was a winning guess within 16 questions, so we were fine.
I think Szpoti was correct that Q7 caused confusion, but their conclusion is where I would disagree. I think people just need to keep in mind that questions like that allow for, in this case, three different correct possibilities.

Re: Twenty Questions - Game 110

by Jamiet99uk » Sat Apr 29, 2023 5:31 pm

Szpoti wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:09 pm
 I think Q7 is the culprit of the confusion. We should avoid asking complex questions of this sort since they can generate a positive answer to any positive constituent.
I disagree.

There was a winning guess within 16 questions, so we were fine.

Re: Twenty Questions - Game 110

by sweetandcool » Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:37 pm

Szpoti wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:22 pm
 Vladimir Kramnik?
Correct! My chess hero and the 14th World Champion. When posed with the question of whether the glass is half full or half empty, Kramnik would probably answer that the glass was full.

Kramnik was the one to unseat Garry Kasparov as World Champion during the chess schism, and defended that title in a match with Veselin Topalov (known as Toiletgate), to become the 14th World Champion.

Re: Twenty Questions - Game 110

by sweetandcool » Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:30 pm

Szpoti wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:09 pm
 I think Q7 is the culprit of the confusion. We should avoid asking complex questions of this sort since they can generate a positive answer to any positive constituent.
Yeah, that's why I noted in #10 that #7 did not necessarily imply athlete.

Re: Twenty Questions - Game 110

by Szpoti » Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:22 pm

Vladimir Kramnik?

Re: Twenty Questions - Game 110

by Szpoti » Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:09 pm

I think Q7 is the culprit of the confusion. We should avoid asking complex questions of this sort since they can generate a positive answer to any positive constituent.

Re: Twenty Questions - Game 110

by sweetandcool » Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:01 pm

1. Real.
2. Male.
3. Not a scientist, politician, artist, writer/filmmaker, or entertainer.
4. They know English. [Not first language]
5. Alive.
6. Not a businessman.
7. Is a sportsperson, athlete, or professional games-person.
8. Does not principally compete in a team sport.
9. Not an Olympic medalist.
10. Not currently active as an athlete/player in sport/game he is most well-known for. [#7 did not establish precisely whether they are an athlete or not].
11. Not known for playing a ball sport.
12. Not a runner.
13. Not primarily known as an athlete.
14. Not a darts player.
15. Is a chess player.
16. First language is Russian.

NOT: Tony Hawk (Foxcastle), Boris Spassky (damo666), Garry Kasparov (Dousing)

Re: Twenty Questions - Game 110

by sweetandcool » Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:00 pm

Dousing wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:58 pm
 If it’s not Gary then is the person’s first language Russian?
Yes.

Re: Twenty Questions - Game 110

by sweetandcool » Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:00 pm

Dousing wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:57 pm
 Free guess: Gary Kasparov
No.

Re: Twenty Questions - Game 110

by Dousing » Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:58 pm

If it’s not Gary then is the person’s first language Russian?

Re: Twenty Questions - Game 110

by Dousing » Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:57 pm

Free guess: Gary Kasparov

Re: Twenty Questions - Game 110

by sweetandcool » Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:44 pm

1. Real.
2. Male.
3. Not a scientist, politician, artist, writer/filmmaker, or entertainer.
4. They know English. [Not first language]
5. Alive.
6. Not a businessman.
7. Is a sportsperson, athlete, or professional games-person.
8. Does not principally compete in a team sport.
9. Not an Olympic medalist.
10. Not currently active as an athlete/player in sport/game he is most well-known for. [#7 did not establish precisely whether they are an athlete or not].
11. Not known for playing a ball sport.
12. Not a runner.
13. Not primarily known as an athlete.
14. Not a darts player.
15. Is a chess player.

NOT: Tony Hawk (Foxcastle), Boris Spassky (damo666).

Re: Twenty Questions - Game 110

by sweetandcool » Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:41 pm

Szpoti wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 29, 2023 1:51 pm
Foxcastle wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:38 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:40 am

The not-totally-binary nature of the answer suggest it do be that way, yez.
We should stop asking that question (and specifying "native English speaker" isn't much better), it just doesn't do much when it applies to so many people outside the anglosphere.
I dare to disagree. The definite answer to 'a native speaker of English?' has been very helpful. But we are dealing here with the aftermath of a somewhat ambiguous question 'speaking English?', which, to my eye, was unfortunate. The answer 'they know English' can easily be read as sarcasm.
I suppose my answer had a bit of a tone because so many non-natives know English.

I will be generous and clarify that it is not their 1st language, since Dousing probably meant to ask that.

Re: Twenty Questions - Game 110

by sweetandcool » Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:37 pm

Foxcastle wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:42 pm
 Primarily known for being a chess player?
Yes!

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