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Re: wD Mafia Master Post

by dargorygel » Tue Apr 16, 2024 2:06 am

The qualifications for Kouncil self nominations will stand for now. We realize that 'ever having been banned' might be excessive. It seemed to us that examining 'pardon's during an election might be disengenuous. We will figure out some fine tunings after we are fully staffed at three. Apologies to those (and there were a couple) who were desirous, and personally qualified, but unable at this time to join.

One of the differences we anticipate is less 'long term permanent' members of Kouncil... so others will have the opportunity.

Also, we are using other players to help review. So thanks to those willing to help with that.

Our nominations at this point, alphabetically, are:
chaqa
ghug
Hamilton Brian

Nominations will close wednesday, CST 5:00 pm. Elections (via message to dargo, either via the site, or discord) will conclude one week later.

Thanks for your patience, input, and involvment in the discussion.

Re: wD Mafia Master Post

by Hamilton Brian » Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:25 am

Maybe I could step into the breach?

Re: wD Mafia Master Post

by dargorygel » Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:07 pm

Unfortunately, worcej is not presently qualified to be a Kouncilor. He carries a ban, from a little while ago.

Thanks for being willing, my friend.

If anyone else wishes to step forward, please do. It is not arrogance to say,"I'd be willing to serve a while on the kouncil."

Especially with the vacation benefits...

Re: wD Mafia Master Post

by dargorygel » Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:02 pm

JustAGuyNamedWill wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 15, 2024 9:07 pm
 Um so do I just vote via darg PM?
Here, or discord

Re: wD Mafia Master Post

by JustAGuyNamedWill » Mon Apr 15, 2024 9:07 pm

Um so do I just vote via darg PM?

Re: wD Mafia Master Post

by ghug » Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:33 pm

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I dropped this earlier.

Re: wD Mafia Master Post

by Chaqa » Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:55 pm

We could PM our votes to Darg and trust him to tally. I'm a little hesitant to use a polling service online rather than linking to accounts.

Re: wD Mafia Master Post

by worcej » Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:48 pm

damo666 wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:20 am
 Very sensible Kouncil Official response.

Thanks to worcej for avoiding the default.

My ideas re election process:

Nominations to close at a specific time (say 7 days f I'm now).

Electorate - anybody having played at least one mafia game on webdip and not currently banned.

Up to two votes (one person seat) per voter. The two candidates amassing the most votes win the two seats. Ties resolved by random process if necessary. Votes by DM to darg (or some other non-canridate person nominated by darg who is agreeable). No change to vote once cast but second vote may be sent subsequent to first.

Voting period 7 days from close of nominations.
Sensible to me.

Re: wD Mafia Master Post

by damo666 » Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:20 am

Very sensible Kouncil Official response.

Thanks to worcej for avoiding the default.

My ideas re election process:

Nominations to close at a specific time (say 7 days f I'm now).

Electorate - anybody having played at least one mafia game on webdip and not currently banned.

Up to two votes (one person seat) per voter. The two candidates amassing the most votes win the two seats. Ties resolved by random process if necessary. Votes by DM to darg (or some other non-canridate person nominated by darg who is agreeable). No change to vote once cast but second vote may be sent subsequent to first.

Voting period 7 days from close of nominations.

Re: wD Mafia Master Post

by ghug » Mon Apr 15, 2024 5:40 am

sweetandcool wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:10 am
worcej wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:02 am
 I volunteer for the Kouncil election so that it isn't defaulted.
Kouncil could also consider having up to 5 members. Probably too big after that.

But maybe shoot for a minimum of 3 and a maximum of 5?
We did that when I joined and everyone stopped giving a shit. I think small with a minimal mandate is the call and if anyone wants to be active in setup review or whatever we do that separately.

Re: wD Mafia Master Post

by sweetandcool » Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:10 am

worcej wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:02 am
 I volunteer for the Kouncil election so that it isn't defaulted.
Kouncil could also consider having up to 5 members. Probably too big after that.

But maybe shoot for a minimum of 3 and a maximum of 5?

Re: wD Mafia Master Post

by worcej » Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:02 am

I volunteer for the Kouncil election so that it isn't defaulted.

Re: wD Mafia Master Post

by sweetandcool » Mon Apr 15, 2024 1:46 am

Chaqa wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 15, 2024 1:37 am
sweetandcool wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 15, 2024 1:33 am
 I think on the whole the proposals are good.

However, I'm only going to comment on the MVP proposal because I feel strongly about it.

I don't think it's a good idea to formally make a system for MVP. As others have said it has the potential to breed resentment or feelings of being left out. And it can be frustrating because it would make it competitive while still being a subjective award.

Personally, I like to try to point out my favorite moments of the game, and praise as many players I can think of, in recognition of their high moments from the game. I think it's a nice way of breeding comradery in the community.

If that all sounded contradictory, the main take away here is that formalizing MVP awards would focus the community on a competition that due to its subjective nature would be likely to breed bad feelings. Whereas just informally talking about highlights of a game and making an effort to praise players is much more likely to breed feelings of comradery and positivity.
Maybe a "Hall of Fame moment" nomination from the GM that is worth a point. A player can have as many as they earn in the game, and as many can happen as the GM decides.
(Continued from my last post)

But yeah, I could see it working if the focus was less on the player and more on the moment.

Like if multiple people really appreciated a moment of a game, then maybe at the end of the year their could be a collation of great moments that could be posted.

So essentially like MVP awards, but for moments rather than players.

Is that what you are saying, Chaqa?

Re: wD Mafia Master Post

by sweetandcool » Mon Apr 15, 2024 1:44 am

What do you mean by a point?

I'm just saying it would be nice if the GM and the players make a point of taking time to mention great moments and great play, after the game ends.

This would fulfill the primary motivation for an MVP award, without actually formalizing it. Then everybody gets to feel the post game love without being left out.

Re: wD Mafia Master Post

by Chaqa » Mon Apr 15, 2024 1:37 am

sweetandcool wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 15, 2024 1:33 am
 I think on the whole the proposals are good.

However, I'm only going to comment on the MVP proposal because I feel strongly about it.

I don't think it's a good idea to formally make a system for MVP. As others have said it has the potential to breed resentment or feelings of being left out. And it can be frustrating because it would make it competitive while still being a subjective award.

Personally, I like to try to point out my favorite moments of the game, and praise as many players I can think of, in recognition of their high moments from the game. I think it's a nice way of breeding comradery in the community.

If that all sounded contradictory, the main take away here is that formalizing MVP awards would focus the community on a competition that due to its subjective nature would be likely to breed bad feelings. Whereas just informally talking about highlights of a game and making an effort to praise players is much more likely to breed feelings of comradery and positivity.
Maybe a "Hall of Fame moment" nomination from the GM that is worth a point. A player can have as many as they earn in the game, and as many can happen as the GM decides.

Re: wD Mafia Master Post

by dargorygel » Mon Apr 15, 2024 1:35 am

ghug wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 15, 2024 1:26 am
dargorygel wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 15, 2024 1:25 am
Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 15, 2024 1:05 am
 I want to propose a game; do I just send a PM to the Kouncil? What info do they need?
Yes... our present pattern is to set up a discord channel/room, that we have invited others to purview. Write to ghug and/or me. My name is dargorygel. Ghug's name is ghug.
What the fuck did you just call me?
I redacted the real name I called you. Children might be present.

Re: wD Mafia Master Post

by sweetandcool » Mon Apr 15, 2024 1:33 am

I think on the whole the proposals are good.

However, I'm only going to comment on the MVP proposal because I feel strongly about it.

I don't think it's a good idea to formally make a system for MVP. As others have said it has the potential to breed resentment or feelings of being left out. And it can be frustrating because it would make it competitive while still being a subjective award.

Personally, I like to try to point out my favorite moments of the game, and praise as many players I can think of, in recognition of their high moments from the game. I think it's a nice way of breeding comradery in the community.

If that all sounded contradictory, the main take away here is that formalizing MVP awards would focus the community on a competition that due to its subjective nature would be likely to breed bad feelings. Whereas just informally talking about highlights of a game and making an effort to praise players is much more likely to breed feelings of comradery and positivity.

Re: wD Mafia Master Post

by Diplomacy&Warfare » Mon Apr 15, 2024 1:32 am

##VOTE GHUG

Re: wD Mafia Master Post

by ghug » Mon Apr 15, 2024 1:26 am

dargorygel wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 15, 2024 1:25 am
Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 15, 2024 1:05 am
 I want to propose a game; do I just send a PM to the Kouncil? What info do they need?
Yes... our present pattern is to set up a discord channel/room, that we have invited others to purview. Write to ghug and/or me. My name is dargorygel. Ghug's name is ghug.
What the fuck did you just call me?

Re: wD Mafia Master Post

by dargorygel » Mon Apr 15, 2024 1:25 am

Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 15, 2024 1:05 am
 I want to propose a game; do I just send a PM to the Kouncil? What info do they need?
Yes... our present pattern is to set up a discord channel/room, that we have invited others to purview. Write to ghug and/or me. My name is dargorygel. Ghug's name is ghug.

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