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Re: XX Questions, Game LXII

by Octavious » Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:47 pm

Bonatogether wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:28 pm
maybe the english education system should spend less time on king james and more time on american indians...
I think spending less time on King James would take some doing. Outside of enthusiastic historians he is known for being "the Bible one" or not known at all.

What you have to consider is that the war of 1812 is a pretty minor war in the grand scheme of things, and one of a great many wars over the centuries. Most Brits haven't heard of it, and virtually none will be aware of the players. There's a vague notion that we might have burned down the White House at some point, but what the war was about and who won is very much minority knowledge.

Re: XX Questions, Game LXII

by Bonatogether » Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:28 pm

maybe the english education system should spend less time on king james and more time on american indians...

Re: XX Questions, Game LXII

by Jamiet99uk » Wed Dec 14, 2022 4:08 pm

The Damo on the Clapham omnibus, for the legally-inclined amongst us.

Re: XX Questions, Game LXII

by Jamiet99uk » Wed Dec 14, 2022 4:07 pm

Damo, the British Everyman, the Joe Bloggs of Britannia.

Re: XX Questions, Game LXII

by damo666 » Mon Dec 12, 2022 5:14 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Mon Dec 12, 2022 3:55 pm
DougJoe wrote:
Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:26 pm
Hamish wrote:
Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:01 am
Just shows that you tend to overestimate people's celebrity when they are closer to you. I mean, to me Sergey Bubka is infinitely better known than this dude. But I am Dutch and have an interest in sports. I guess pole-vault is a lot closer to me than the American civil war.
I think this is the case. One of the people I was previously thinking about using in this game was the Native American Tecumseh, who played a large part in the (US/UK) War of 1812 in the Great Lakes area in the US and Canada - he united several tribes into a confederacy that fought on the side of the UK in that war, among other things. Now, it's pretty hard to grow up in SE Michigan/NW Ohio without being exposed to Tecumseh at some point in school, but I'd guess if you were studying the War of 1812 in, say, a school system in most of the other US states, exposure to that part of the war might have been minimal - maybe a line or two in a book and maybe one question on a test - and certainly anyone outside the US (not sure about the UK) would probably have never heard of him.
I have heard about Tecumseh, but only because I wondered why the even-more-famous American Civil War General, Sherman, had such an unusual middle name, so I looked it up a few years ago. I don't think a normal, reasonably well-educated British person would know about Chief Tecumseh.
I hadn't and am probably a good litmus test.

Re: XX Questions, Game LXII

by Jamiet99uk » Mon Dec 12, 2022 3:55 pm

DougJoe wrote:
Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:26 pm
Hamish wrote:
Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:01 am
Just shows that you tend to overestimate people's celebrity when they are closer to you. I mean, to me Sergey Bubka is infinitely better known than this dude. But I am Dutch and have an interest in sports. I guess pole-vault is a lot closer to me than the American civil war.
I think this is the case. One of the people I was previously thinking about using in this game was the Native American Tecumseh, who played a large part in the (US/UK) War of 1812 in the Great Lakes area in the US and Canada - he united several tribes into a confederacy that fought on the side of the UK in that war, among other things. Now, it's pretty hard to grow up in SE Michigan/NW Ohio without being exposed to Tecumseh at some point in school, but I'd guess if you were studying the War of 1812 in, say, a school system in most of the other US states, exposure to that part of the war might have been minimal - maybe a line or two in a book and maybe one question on a test - and certainly anyone outside the US (not sure about the UK) would probably have never heard of him.
I have heard about Tecumseh, but only because I wondered why the even-more-famous American Civil War General, Sherman, had such an unusual middle name, so I looked it up a few years ago. I don't think a normal, reasonably well-educated British person would know about Chief Tecumseh.

Re: XX Questions, Game LXII

by dargorygel » Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:38 pm

JECE wrote:
Sat Dec 10, 2022 10:23 pm
Can you imagine vaulting with chopsticks over raw fish? Epic
Ah the joy of typos... :-)

Re: XX Questions, Game LXII

by DougJoe » Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:26 pm

Hamish wrote:
Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:01 am
Just shows that you tend to overestimate people's celebrity when they are closer to you. I mean, to me Sergey Bubka is infinitely better known than this dude. But I am Dutch and have an interest in sports. I guess pole-vault is a lot closer to me than the American civil war.
I think this is the case. One of the people I was previously thinking about using in this game was the Native American Tecumseh, who played a large part in the (US/UK) War of 1812 in the Great Lakes area in the US and Canada - he united several tribes into a confederacy that fought on the side of the UK in that war, among other things. Now, it's pretty hard to grow up in SE Michigan/NW Ohio without being exposed to Tecumseh at some point in school, but I'd guess if you were studying the War of 1812 in, say, a school system in most of the other US states, exposure to that part of the war might have been minimal - maybe a line or two in a book and maybe one question on a test - and certainly anyone outside the US (not sure about the UK) would probably have never heard of him.

Re: XX Questions, Game LXII

by JECE » Sat Dec 10, 2022 10:23 pm

Can you imagine vaulting with chopsticks over raw fish? Epic

Re: XX Questions, Game LXII

by dargorygel » Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:22 pm

I once heard an unconfirmed story that Johann Straus invented the sport of poke vaulting.

Re: XX Questions, Game LXII

by Hamish » Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:01 am

Just shows that you tend to overestimate people's celebrity when they are closer to you. I mean, to me Sergey Bubka is infinitely better known than this dude. But I am Dutch and have an interest in sports. I guess pole-vault is a lot closer to me than the American civil war.

Re: XX Questions, Game LXII

by Bonatogether » Sat Dec 10, 2022 4:14 am

JECE wrote:
Sat Dec 10, 2022 1:09 am
Is Douglas Southall Freeman really that well known in the South?

Sheesh, and people *cough*Jamiet99uk*cough* thought my pick was out there . . .
he's not exactly common dinnertime conversation, but many people would recognize the name, and any civil war buff would know his work. someone like @eden might better be able to attest to this.

suspect that his impact outside the US would be minimal - no surprise to me that jaime hadn't heard of him

Re: XX Questions, Game LXII

by Jamiet99uk » Sat Dec 10, 2022 1:40 am

JECE wrote:
Sat Dec 10, 2022 1:09 am
Is Douglas Southall Freeman really that well known in the South?

Sheesh, and people *cough*Jamiet99uk*cough* thought my pick was out there . . .
Hey, I've never heard of the guy until now. I only found him via a process of elimination.

Re: XX Questions, Game LXII

by JECE » Sat Dec 10, 2022 1:09 am

Is Douglas Southall Freeman really that well known in the South?

Sheesh, and people *cough*Jamiet99uk*cough* thought my pick was out there . . .

Re: XX Questions, Game LXII

by Jamiet99uk » Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:40 pm

It was a tough one.

I think we fixated on "job" because each time you said "no" it did nonetheless feel like we were narrowing it down.

New game is up:

https://www.webdiplomacy.net/contrib/ph ... f=4&t=4434

Re: XX Questions, Game LXII

by Bonatogether » Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:36 pm

i think the large amount of questions that were sunk into job stuff made it exceedingly difficult to solve, although i think eventually someone would have gotten through the TIME magazine covers from the 1940s

Re: XX Questions, Game LXII

by Jamiet99uk » Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:22 pm

Bonatogether wrote:
Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:20 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:17 pm
Guess:

Is it Douglas Southall Freeman?

He appears to fit all of the criteria. He was born in 1886 in Virginia (which I believe is classed as being in the south), he was a native English speaking US citizen who was not known for any of the listed professions, and he won the Pulitzer Prize for Biography, for writing about Robert E. Lee. He appeared on the cover of Time Magazine for the October 1948 edition.
bingo
WOOO HOOOO

I would not have gotten it without the Pulitzer Prize clue, so thank you for that.

This was a challenge for sure. I feel like I have done about a month's worth of research. :razz:

Re: XX Questions, Game LXII

by Hamish » Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:20 pm

Bonatogether wrote:
Sat Dec 03, 2022 3:04 pm
damo666 wrote:
Sat Dec 03, 2022 11:33 am
So yet again 'real dead male' would have saved 2 questions.

Alive during 20th century?
yes
It's not even the decade....

Re: XX Questions, Game LXII

by Bonatogether » Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:20 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:17 pm
Guess:

Is it Douglas Southall Freeman?

He appears to fit all of the criteria. He was born in 1886 in Virginia (which I believe is classed as being in the south), he was a native English speaking US citizen who was not known for any of the listed professions, and he won the Pulitzer Prize for Biography, for writing about Robert E. Lee. He appeared on the cover of Time Magazine for the October 1948 edition.
bingo

Re: XX Questions, Game LXII

by Jamiet99uk » Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:17 pm

Guess:

Is it Douglas Southall Freeman?

He appears to fit all of the criteria. He was born in 1886 in Virginia (which I believe is classed as being in the south), he was a native English speaking US citizen who was not known for any of the listed professions, and he won the Pulitzer Prize for Biography, for writing about Robert E. Lee. He appeared on the cover of Time Magazine for the October 1948 edition.

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