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Re: fans stunned to learn that sport they dont watch has pay inequality to sport they do watch

by Pengwinja » Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:33 am

kingofthepirates wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:28 am
Diplomacy&Warfare wrote:
Sun Apr 21, 2024 12:01 pm
Pengwinja wrote:
Sun Apr 21, 2024 12:27 am

Abusing me with kitchen utensils doesn’t seem like the answer to my problem.
Exactly. That's why I'm going to use a stabbing knife, not a kitchen knife, and definitely not a fork.
murder, assault, and battery are all ILLEGAL. please refrain from participating in activities that are NOT sanctioned by the government :).
What government? I’m really hoping that it isn’t moon government, because there is no government.

Re: fans stunned to learn that sport they dont watch has pay inequality to sport they do watch

by kingofthepirates » Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:28 am

Diplomacy&Warfare wrote:
Sun Apr 21, 2024 12:01 pm
Pengwinja wrote:
Sun Apr 21, 2024 12:27 am
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:17 pm
That sounds a bit over the top. Perhaps try just jabbing him with a fork.
Abusing me with kitchen utensils doesn’t seem like the answer to my problem.
Exactly. That's why I'm going to use a stabbing knife, not a kitchen knife, and definitely not a fork.
murder, assault, and battery are all ILLEGAL. please refrain from participating in activities that are NOT sanctioned by the government :).

Re: fans stunned to learn that sport they dont watch has pay inequality to sport they do watch

by Pengwinja » Sun Apr 21, 2024 11:34 pm

Diplomacy&Warfare wrote:
Sun Apr 21, 2024 12:01 pm
Pengwinja wrote:
Sun Apr 21, 2024 12:27 am
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:17 pm


That sounds a bit over the top. Perhaps try just jabbing him with a fork.
Abusing me with kitchen utensils doesn’t seem like the answer to my problem.
Exactly. That's why I'm going to use a stabbing knife, not a kitchen knife, and definitely not a fork.
I would rather the fork. Please go back to the fork.

Re: fans stunned to learn that sport they dont watch has pay inequality to sport they do watch

by BrianBaru » Sun Apr 21, 2024 10:57 pm

Catlin Clark is in line for an eight-year deal with Nike that could end up being worth $28 million and a signature shoe. That is how the free enterprise system works. You are paid for value created. People like to watch her. And will buy her shoe.

Re: fans stunned to learn that sport they dont watch has pay inequality to sport they do watch

by DiplomacyandWarfare » Sun Apr 21, 2024 12:01 pm

Pengwinja wrote:
Sun Apr 21, 2024 12:27 am
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:17 pm
Diplomacy&Warfare wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:19 pm

That's rough. Would it make you feel better if I pulled a knife on you for something unrelated to sports?
That sounds a bit over the top. Perhaps try just jabbing him with a fork.
Abusing me with kitchen utensils doesn’t seem like the answer to my problem.
Exactly. That's why I'm going to use a stabbing knife, not a kitchen knife, and definitely not a fork.

Re: fans stunned to learn that sport they dont watch has pay inequality to sport they do watch

by Pengwinja » Sun Apr 21, 2024 12:27 am

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:17 pm
Diplomacy&Warfare wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:19 pm
Pengwinja wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2024 3:00 pm

As someone in America, I can confirm that many people have made sports their main religion. I got threatened with a knife after I said I didn’t watch sports as my main source of entertainment. Granted, the knife was plastic, but still, the emotional pain is still there. :cry:
That's rough. Would it make you feel better if I pulled a knife on you for something unrelated to sports?
That sounds a bit over the top. Perhaps try just jabbing him with a fork.
Abusing me with kitchen utensils doesn’t seem like the answer to my problem.

Re: fans stunned to learn that sport they dont watch has pay inequality to sport they do watch

by Jamiet99uk » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:17 pm

Diplomacy&Warfare wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:19 pm
Pengwinja wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2024 3:00 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:50 am
Another example is Livvy Dunne who attends LSU. Her net worth from Name Image Likeness is in the multi millions just from doing tik tok videos and reels of herself in a gymnastics outfit. It goes beyond even her sport as LSU is a top tier program for gymnastics but she isnt even the best competitor on their roster. Shes actually quite average. Her following is huge; so fanatic and so crazed that thousands of men will show up outside the classes she attends waiting to catch a glimpse of her. She has had to cease attending classes in person and do only remote classes to avoid dangerous incidents with fans. When she Attends events she has to have security with her just to even go to sit and watch a sporting event. There is something fanatical people feel about college athletes in America
As someone in America, I can confirm that many people have made sports their main religion. I got threatened with a knife after I said I didn’t watch sports as my main source of entertainment. Granted, the knife was plastic, but still, the emotional pain is still there. :cry:
That's rough. Would it make you feel better if I pulled a knife on you for something unrelated to sports?
That sounds a bit over the top. Perhaps try just jabbing him with a fork.

Re: fans stunned to learn that sport they dont watch has pay inequality to sport they do watch

by DiplomacyandWarfare » Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:19 pm

Pengwinja wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2024 3:00 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:50 am
Another example is Livvy Dunne who attends LSU. Her net worth from Name Image Likeness is in the multi millions just from doing tik tok videos and reels of herself in a gymnastics outfit. It goes beyond even her sport as LSU is a top tier program for gymnastics but she isnt even the best competitor on their roster. Shes actually quite average. Her following is huge; so fanatic and so crazed that thousands of men will show up outside the classes she attends waiting to catch a glimpse of her. She has had to cease attending classes in person and do only remote classes to avoid dangerous incidents with fans. When she Attends events she has to have security with her just to even go to sit and watch a sporting event. There is something fanatical people feel about college athletes in America
As someone in America, I can confirm that many people have made sports their main religion. I got threatened with a knife after I said I didn’t watch sports as my main source of entertainment. Granted, the knife was plastic, but still, the emotional pain is still there. :cry:
That's rough. Would it make you feel better if I pulled a knife on you for something unrelated to sports?

Re: fans stunned to learn that sport they dont watch has pay inequality to sport they do watch

by Pengwinja » Fri Apr 19, 2024 3:00 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:50 am
Another example is Livvy Dunne who attends LSU. Her net worth from Name Image Likeness is in the multi millions just from doing tik tok videos and reels of herself in a gymnastics outfit. It goes beyond even her sport as LSU is a top tier program for gymnastics but she isnt even the best competitor on their roster. Shes actually quite average. Her following is huge; so fanatic and so crazed that thousands of men will show up outside the classes she attends waiting to catch a glimpse of her. She has had to cease attending classes in person and do only remote classes to avoid dangerous incidents with fans. When she Attends events she has to have security with her just to even go to sit and watch a sporting event. There is something fanatical people feel about college athletes in America
As someone in America, I can confirm that many people have made sports their main religion. I got threatened with a knife after I said I didn’t watch sports as my main source of entertainment. Granted, the knife was plastic, but still, the emotional pain is still there. :cry:

Re: fans stunned to learn that sport they dont watch has pay inequality to sport they do watch

by brainbomb » Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:50 am

Another example is Livvy Dunne who attends LSU. Her net worth from Name Image Likeness is in the multi millions just from doing tik tok videos and reels of herself in a gymnastics outfit. It goes beyond even her sport as LSU is a top tier program for gymnastics but she isnt even the best competitor on their roster. Shes actually quite average. Her following is huge; so fanatic and so crazed that thousands of men will show up outside the classes she attends waiting to catch a glimpse of her. She has had to cease attending classes in person and do only remote classes to avoid dangerous incidents with fans. When she Attends events she has to have security with her just to even go to sit and watch a sporting event. There is something fanatical people feel about college athletes in America

Re: fans stunned to learn that sport they dont watch has pay inequality to sport they do watch

by Octavious » Fri Apr 19, 2024 6:29 am

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:05 am
Crazy Anglican wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:45 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:32 pm


Why is that exactly? Is there just a very strong sense of affiliation between people and the colleges they attended as young adults?
I think it's more of a regional thing than alumni. Two schools in an area develop a rivalry (or an interconference rivalry exists) and people jump on the bandwagon. If it were just about school spirit there wouldn't be near the number of people following them. We recently had a Senatorial candidate that was running mainly on his notoriety as a college athlete (he was a professional too, but not anywhere near our area). He came back here to run because he's still a household name 40 years later.
But why are college rivalries more intense than rivalries between pro sports teams? (And their supporters).

Where I live there is a huge rivalry between Newcastle United FC and Sunderland AFC. But that manifests itself in the form of an intense rivalry between those two professional sports teams. It absolutely does not manifest itself in huge crowds wanting to turn up to see the Newcastle University football team play the Sunderland University football team (even though both universities do have football teams, they do not draw a crowd).
Not strictly true, of course. The Oxford and Cambridge boat race draws insanely large crowds for what is in reality an extremely dull event, and the University Challenge Quiz regularly attracts a televised audience of millions.

I would say that the biggest difference between the UK and US is that anyone of university age in the UK who plays one of the major sports at elite levels is already a professional in that sport. If they want to go to uni they will do it when they retire.

Re: fans stunned to learn that sport they dont watch has pay inequality to sport they do watch

by DiplomacyandWarfare » Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:14 am

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:05 am
Crazy Anglican wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:45 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:32 pm


Why is that exactly? Is there just a very strong sense of affiliation between people and the colleges they attended as young adults?
I think it's more of a regional thing than alumni. Two schools in an area develop a rivalry (or an interconference rivalry exists) and people jump on the bandwagon. If it were just about school spirit there wouldn't be near the number of people following them. We recently had a Senatorial candidate that was running mainly on his notoriety as a college athlete (he was a professional too, but not anywhere near our area). He came back here to run because he's still a household name 40 years later.
But why are college rivalries more intense than rivalries between pro sports teams? (And their supporters).

Where I live there is a huge rivalry between Newcastle United FC and Sunderland AFC. But that manifests itself in the form of an intense rivalry between those two professional sports teams. It absolutely does not manifest itself in huge crowds wanting to turn up to see the Newcastle University football team play the Sunderland University football team (even though both universities do have football teams, they do not draw a crowd).
The phenomenon you are discussing, where people don't obsessively worship sports teams, is called 'sanity'.

Re: fans stunned to learn that sport they dont watch has pay inequality to sport they do watch

by Jamiet99uk » Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:05 am

Crazy Anglican wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:45 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:32 pm
JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:22 pm
College sports are HUGE in the US. Especially college football
Why is that exactly? Is there just a very strong sense of affiliation between people and the colleges they attended as young adults?
I think it's more of a regional thing than alumni. Two schools in an area develop a rivalry (or an interconference rivalry exists) and people jump on the bandwagon. If it were just about school spirit there wouldn't be near the number of people following them. We recently had a Senatorial candidate that was running mainly on his notoriety as a college athlete (he was a professional too, but not anywhere near our area). He came back here to run because he's still a household name 40 years later.
But why are college rivalries more intense than rivalries between pro sports teams? (And their supporters).

Where I live there is a huge rivalry between Newcastle United FC and Sunderland AFC. But that manifests itself in the form of an intense rivalry between those two professional sports teams. It absolutely does not manifest itself in huge crowds wanting to turn up to see the Newcastle University football team play the Sunderland University football team (even though both universities do have football teams, they do not draw a crowd).

Re: fans stunned to learn that sport they dont watch has pay inequality to sport they do watch

by Crazy Anglican » Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:45 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:32 pm
JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:22 pm
College sports are HUGE in the US. Especially college football
Why is that exactly? Is there just a very strong sense of affiliation between people and the colleges they attended as young adults?
I think it's more of a regional thing than alumni. Two schools in an area develop a rivalry (or an interconference rivalry exists) and people jump on the bandwagon. If it were just about school spirit there wouldn't be near the number of people following them. We recently had a Senatorial candidate that was running mainly on his notoriety as a college athlete (he was a professional too, but not anywhere near our area). He came back here to run because he's still a household name 40 years later.

Re: fans stunned to learn that sport they dont watch has pay inequality to sport they do watch

by DiplomacyandWarfare » Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:40 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:32 pm
JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:22 pm
College sports are HUGE in the US. Especially college football
Why is that exactly? Is there just a very strong sense of affiliation between people and the colleges they attended as young adults?
I, myself, don't care much for sports. They are rather boring and have low strategy compared to, for example, chess (there are a few exceptions, one of them the brackets pools for college basketball). The college sports obsessions probably involves Americans' intense desire to sort themselves into arbitrary teams and argue intensely about things that don't matter. I could give you examples, but this isn't the politics sub-forum so I'm not going to.

Re: fans stunned to learn that sport they dont watch has pay inequality to sport they do watch

by Jamiet99uk » Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:32 pm

JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:22 pm
College sports are HUGE in the US. Especially college football
Why is that exactly? Is there just a very strong sense of affiliation between people and the colleges they attended as young adults?

Re: fans stunned to learn that sport they dont watch has pay inequality to sport they do watch

by JustAGuyNamedWill » Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:22 pm

College sports are HUGE in the US. Especially college football

Re: fans stunned to learn that sport they dont watch has pay inequality to sport they do watch

by Jamiet99uk » Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:19 pm

Why is the main women's professional league less popular than watching young amateurs play at college?

Nobody in the UK watches University sports teams.

Re: fans stunned to learn that sport they dont watch has pay inequality to sport they do watch

by brainbomb » Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:29 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:24 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:42 pm
Shocked and disgusted fans of Iowas Caitlin Clark could not beleive her starting salary in the WNBA will be around 70k per season. It begs the question, if you are shocked and outraged why werent you watching the WNBA before?
Surely if they are "fans of Caitlin Clark" they must already be watching women's basketball, no?

I've never heard of her.
She is a college athlete from the University of Iowa. her estimated earnings as a college basketball player are in the millions from ads and endorsements. College players do not earn an official salary however. She was drafted to play in the WNBA now, one of the least watched professional sports leagues in America. Its salary for rookies is very low, she will be making roughly 70 k per year for about 3 years. People are suddenly angry and claiming mens basketball players make millions right out the gate. The problem is, as has been stated, the WNBA is extremely unpopular, it just doesnt get viewers attention. People dont watch the games and mostly have no idea who these athletes even are. The only one people even know is Brittany Griner for her imprisonment stint in Russia. the rest people maybe saw in the Olympics one time and thats about it. I couldnt tell you where the teams are located, or any of the players on the teams.

That being said this could be a huge moment for the WNBA and it could change its trajectory in a major way. Angel Reese, Caitlin Clark, Cardosa, and the other new rookie class had major followings as college players.

Re: fans stunned to learn that sport they dont watch has pay inequality to sport they do watch

by Jamiet99uk » Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:24 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:42 pm
Shocked and disgusted fans of Iowas Caitlin Clark could not beleive her starting salary in the WNBA will be around 70k per season. It begs the question, if you are shocked and outraged why werent you watching the WNBA before?
Surely if they are "fans of Caitlin Clark" they must already be watching women's basketball, no?

I've never heard of her.

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