Is it okay for adults to play videogames?

by **Fluminator** » Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:20 am

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 01, 2024 12:10 am
Please just go away for another 9 months, troll.

I'll see you in December 2024

by **A.Severus** » Mon Apr 01, 2024 12:20 am

I think the better question is, can we stop adults from playing videogames?

by **Jamiet99uk** » Mon Apr 01, 2024 12:10 am

Please just go away for another 9 months, troll.

by **Jamiet99uk** » Mon Apr 01, 2024 12:09 am

Fluminator wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:11 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑
Tue May 16, 2023 6:27 pm
Why don't you let people do whatever they want and drop this navel-gazing fake moralising?

Fucking hell.
While I've been adequately convinced videogames are okay, I think as a society we need to bring back societal shame. (So to be clear, I think there are contexts where videogame players don't need to be shamed).

I think we all agree bullying is bad, but in the societal push to remove it, we also removed all shaming, and we need the happy medium again so people are guided towards living their best life without going overboard in correction. It's actually due to my empathy for people that I want to see them thrive.

I know you'd agree with me that shaming in some contexts is okay (like you probably shamed people who didn't get boosted).

Or another example, Bill Gates probably happened because he wasn't bullied enough in high school, and again I'm not saying he should have been bullied, but if he had a little more shame he wouldn't have become the person he did.

Did someone hurt you when you were a child?

Is that why you are like this?

by **JustAGuyNamedWill** » Sun Mar 31, 2024 10:48 pm

Fluminator wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:43 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑
Tue May 16, 2023 6:26 pm

Fluminator wrote: ↑
Mon May 15, 2023 5:17 pm
I think I lean towards no, but I'm open to arguments to change my mind. There comes a point where you need to live in the real world, and video games are just a form of escapism that is unhealthy.

Society would be better if people spent more time leveling up real skills and getting experience in practical stuff (instead of learning how to stomp on koopas)
What do you call your participation on this website?

Webdiplomacy is an online game.
Webdiplomacy is more a simulator than a game, isn't it? Maybe that's a good point, but I don't know if I consider this a videogame.

Dang you’re a really slow typer! Took ya 10 months to type this out!

by **Fluminator** » Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:11 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑
Tue May 16, 2023 6:27 pm
Why don't you let people do whatever they want and drop this navel-gazing fake moralising?

Fucking hell.

While I've been adequately convinced videogames are okay, I think as a society we need to bring back societal shame. (So to be clear, I think there are contexts where videogame players don't need to be shamed).

I think we all agree bullying is bad, but in the societal push to remove it, we also removed all shaming, and we need the happy medium again so people are guided towards living their best life without going overboard in correction. It's actually due to my empathy for people that I want to see them thrive.

I know you'd agree with me that shaming in some contexts is okay (like you probably shamed people who didn't get boosted).

Or another example, Bill Gates probably happened because he wasn't bullied enough in high school, and again I'm not saying he should have been bullied, but if he had a little more shame he wouldn't have become the person he did.

by **Diplomacy&Warfare** » Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:01 pm

I agree with CaptainFritz. Videogames, especially social ones or versions of strategic games like Diplomacy, can be helpful and even healthy to play. On the other hand, spending 5 hours a day playing online first-person shooters and being extremely toxic to everyone isn't going to do you any good.

by **Jamiet99uk** » Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:58 pm

Sorry, I meant this question:

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑
Tue May 16, 2023 6:27 pm
Why don't you let people do whatever they want and drop this navel-gazing fake moralising?

Fucking hell.

Why?

by **CaptainFritz28** » Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:57 pm

I think people forgot that there can be more than two options here.
The idea that one must abstain entirely from videogames or else waste their life entirely on them is a false dichotomy. As Jamie pointed out, you can still enjoy socializing and play videogames.

Some games, like Diplomacy, are useful for growing logical and interpersonal skills, as well as tactical analysis.

In moderation, videogames can be a useful tool for aiding society, and it's really only when they become obsessive or addictive that I find an issue.

(This is all from someone who mostly only plays webDip as a videogame, with maybe one or two other games that I'll play once or twice a week.)

by **Fluminator** » Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:51 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:40 pm

Fluminator wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:43 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑
Tue May 16, 2023 6:26 pm

What do you call your participation on this website?

Webdiplomacy is an online game.
Webdiplomacy is more a simulator than a game, isn't it? Maybe that's a good point, but I don't know if I consider this a videogame.
Why are you replying now to comments from 9 months ago?

I also put my first question to you again.

Life is busy but I had some free time today because its easter and I'm sick so not chilling with the famjam.

The first question, "what do you call your participation on this website"?
I call it engaging in dialogue on a forum.

by **Jamiet99uk** » Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:40 pm

Fluminator wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:43 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑
Tue May 16, 2023 6:26 pm

Fluminator wrote: ↑
Mon May 15, 2023 5:17 pm
I think I lean towards no, but I'm open to arguments to change my mind. There comes a point where you need to live in the real world, and video games are just a form of escapism that is unhealthy.

Society would be better if people spent more time leveling up real skills and getting experience in practical stuff (instead of learning how to stomp on koopas)
What do you call your participation on this website?

Webdiplomacy is an online game.
Webdiplomacy is more a simulator than a game, isn't it? Maybe that's a good point, but I don't know if I consider this a videogame.

Why are you replying now to comments from 9 months ago?

I also put my first question to you again.

by **Fluminator** » Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:26 pm

cdngooner wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:58 pm
Why are we engaging with someone who has Canada's worst prime minister as his avatar, and doesn't know that Germany and Austria were allied in WW1.

You can't backstab someone you're not allied with.
You think Harper is worse than Diefenbaker?

by **cdngooner** » Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:58 pm

Why are we engaging with someone who has Canada's worst prime minister as his avatar, and doesn't know that Germany and Austria were allied in WW1.

by **Fluminator** » Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:43 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑
Tue May 16, 2023 6:26 pm

Fluminator wrote: ↑
Mon May 15, 2023 5:17 pm
I think I lean towards no, but I'm open to arguments to change my mind. There comes a point where you need to live in the real world, and video games are just a form of escapism that is unhealthy.

Society would be better if people spent more time leveling up real skills and getting experience in practical stuff (instead of learning how to stomp on koopas)
What do you call your participation on this website?

Webdiplomacy is an online game.

Webdiplomacy is more a simulator than a game, isn't it? Maybe that's a good point, but I don't know if I consider this a videogame.

by **Jamiet99uk** » Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:06 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 21, 2023 3:32 pm

jozoe wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 20, 2023 9:52 pm

Fluminator wrote: ↑
Mon May 15, 2023 5:17 pm
Society would be better if people spent more time leveling up real skills and getting experience in practical stuff (instead of learning how to stomp on koopas)
Society is so spoiled that if I spend 100 hours a week on a new Diablo instead of communicating with people, I will lose nothing... I will get pleasant emotions from the game instead of spending my resources on other people, adapting to them, their character, their mood... no, please spare me.
I love communicating with people. Spending quality social time with people I like is my favourite thing.

Having said that I have also spent the past two hours playing videogames.

by **Jamiet99uk** » Fri Jul 21, 2023 3:32 pm

jozoe wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 20, 2023 9:52 pm

Fluminator wrote: ↑
Mon May 15, 2023 5:17 pm
Society would be better if people spent more time leveling up real skills and getting experience in practical stuff (instead of learning how to stomp on koopas)
Society is so spoiled that if I spend 100 hours a week on a new Diablo instead of communicating with people, I will lose nothing... I will get pleasant emotions from the game instead of spending my resources on other people, adapting to them, their character, their mood... no, please spare me.

I love communicating with people. Spending quality social time with people I like is my favourite thing.

by **jozoe** » Thu Jul 20, 2023 9:52 pm

Fluminator wrote: ↑
Mon May 15, 2023 5:17 pm
Society would be better if people spent more time leveling up real skills and getting experience in practical stuff (instead of learning how to stomp on koopas)

Society is so spoiled that if I spend 100 hours a week on a new Diablo instead of communicating with people, I will lose nothing... I will get pleasant emotions from the game instead of spending my resources on other people, adapting to them, their character, their mood... no, please spare me.

by **Jamiet99uk** » Tue May 16, 2023 6:27 pm

Why don't you let people do whatever they want and drop this navel-gazing fake moralising?

Fucking hell.

by **Jamiet99uk** » Tue May 16, 2023 6:26 pm

Fluminator wrote: ↑
Mon May 15, 2023 5:17 pm
I think I lean towards no, but I'm open to arguments to change my mind. There comes a point where you need to live in the real world, and video games are just a form of escapism that is unhealthy.

Society would be better if people spent more time leveling up real skills and getting experience in practical stuff (instead of learning how to stomp on koopas)

What do you call your participation on this website?

Webdiplomacy is an online game.

by **Doom427** » Tue May 16, 2023 2:28 pm

Looks like I just time traveled to 2003, which is the last time troll bait like this would be believable

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