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Re: Site certification expired

by gimix » Wed Apr 28, 2021 10:26 pm

The site issue is now solved. Depending on your device/browser you may need to clear cache and/or cookies before it works again for you.
Bots have another issue: they run on a different server, which is managed by the researchers who developed them, and they seem to have been stopped for a (hopefully) short period of time for maintenance/upgrade reasons.
Bots are computationally very expensive, so some downtime will happen once every few months

Re: Site certification expired

by DougJoe » Wed Apr 28, 2021 7:40 pm

I'm seeing the same issue with bot games now. It seemed ok earlier this afternoon, I got one turn in before it stopped working.

Re: Site certification expired

by Ogion » Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:22 pm

This is probably me, but my iPhone still registers the site as having an expired certification. Also, the bot games don't seem to advance for me. I'll poke around and see if I've got some strange error on my end.

Re: Site certification expired

by chluke » Wed Apr 28, 2021 2:04 pm

Thank you mods/admin/support team for all you do!

Re: Site certification expired

by A_Tin_Can » Wed Apr 28, 2021 1:08 pm

Yes, thanks mods + everyone who helped. Not me this time!

When I was a mod, I only felt the paycheck was too low on days where Jamiet made unfounded accusations and was generally belligerent in the forum. But now I don't have to write polite responses, so I got that going for me, which is nice.

Re: Site certification expired

by Bladerunners » Wed Apr 28, 2021 2:37 am

Thanks to all of you who run the show + fix problems. The paycheque probably feels too low some days hey? ;-)

Re: Site certification expired

by purevital » Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:54 pm

flash2015 wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:17 pm
With all the warmth and love being thrown around...I thought it may be important to make everyone aware that an important milestone is about to be reached.

As of today, I am only 3 short of 1000 +1s...

This could be the thread where history is made! +1 this post and be a part of this joyous event!
Felt like I just had to give him the last +1

Re: Site certification expired

by 0k0k0 » Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:49 pm

Thanks for all the legs paddling under the water to resolve the issue!
Let's make this 1001 night message
love you all

Re: Site certification expired

by flash2015 » Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:17 pm

With all the warmth and love being thrown around...I thought it may be important to make everyone aware that an important milestone is about to be reached.

As of today, I am only 3 short of 1000 +1s...

This could be the thread where history is made! +1 this post and be a part of this joyous event!

Re: Site certification expired

by jmo1121109 » Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:35 am

Octavious wrote:
Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:07 pm
I have no doubt that the webDip leadership are dealing with the issue like swans. Unseen beneath the water the legs are furiously working, whilst up above the membership either admire the serene beauty of it all or take potshots depending on their nature.

A bit of a heads up on what the problem is or at least guesstimate of when it might be resolved would go down well, though. It is far easier to be understanding when you are invited to understand what's going on.
Unfortunately you all do share our level of understanding currently. My hope is soon, but I don't know how to resolve this with the odd circumstances bo mentioned earlier, so I can't promise a time frame. The short version is the urls are different than normal to account for an upcoming server move, and due to that the way the cert was setup to renew doesn't work. So we're reaching out to our benevolent overlord and awaiting Kestas's reply.

Re: Site certification expired

by Peregrine Falcon » Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:18 am

pyxxy wrote:
Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:34 pm
Yes, sorry about that. I think I phrased my response too directly. Didn't want to cause a pile on in either direction, towards you (thatwasawkward) or towards the devs. But I think all I did was bring more attention to your post :/ I'm not trying to ignore site issues and sugarcoat problems. I just wanted productive questions instead of stuff like:
FWIW, I think your initial post was very well balanced, and I for one appreciate seeing contributors like that on the forum. :-)

Re: Site certification expired

by JECE » Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:39 pm

thatwasawkward wrote:
Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:27 pm
I'm terribly sorry I didn't notice there's already a forum thread about this -- Oddly enough having Chrome warn you the site is unsafe every single time you load a page kind of makes it difficult to navigate the site and find information. Who'd have thought?
Your really should check out that other thread:
viewtopic.php?f=2&p=237037

There are some good tips in that thread on how to avoid the browser security warnings.

Also, FYI, the easiest place to find recent forum posts is actually right on the Home tab, so you don't need to do much navigating if you know where to look

Re: Site certification expired

by Ogion » Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:59 pm

For what it's worth, I'm grateful that folks are working to get the site back up, whenever that happens.

Re: Site certification expired

by pyxxy » Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:34 pm

thatwasawkward wrote:
Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:27 pm
Don't try to make the issue about me.
Yes, sorry about that. I think I phrased my response too directly. Didn't want to cause a pile on in either direction, towards you (thatwasawkward) or towards the devs. But I think all I did was bring more attention to your post :/ I'm not trying to ignore site issues and sugarcoat problems. I just wanted productive questions instead of stuff like:
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:23 pm
Whatever.

Re: Site certification expired

by thatwasawkward » Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:27 pm

I'm terribly sorry I didn't notice there's already a forum thread about this -- Oddly enough having Chrome warn you the site is unsafe every single time you load a page kind of makes it difficult to navigate the site and find information. Who'd have thought?

Glad to see this place is still as full of drama as ever. Could I have phrased my post more generously/diplomatically? Could I have been more deferential to the great work the devs do out of their love for the project? Absolutely, that's on me. But also: Don't try to make the issue about me. It's not. The simple fact is an absence of constant browser security warnings is kind of an expectation for a site in production. I'm not sure why some people expect to have that sugar-coated.

Re: Site certification expired

by Octavious » Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:07 pm

I have no doubt that the webDip leadership are dealing with the issue like swans. Unseen beneath the water the legs are furiously working, whilst up above the membership either admire the serene beauty of it all or take potshots depending on their nature.

A bit of a heads up on what the problem is or at least guesstimate of when it might be resolved would go down well, though. It is far easier to be understanding when you are invited to understand what's going on.

Re: Site certification expired

by TooCoolSunday » Mon Apr 26, 2021 3:55 pm

Do we know how long the fix will take?

Re: Site certification expired

by Strauss » Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:00 pm

Go ahead, we have trust in you.

Re: Site certification expired

by bo_sox48 » Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:30 am

It's good to see that the same love and warmth I felt from day to day back in 2015 still exists.

I'm sorry that the certificates are expired and I'm sorry that the site is down. Renewing certificates is an extremely easy (and automated) task, but we are mired down by a set of extenuating circumstances that I'm not going to discuss other than to say that they have us stopped in our tracks right now. We're working on getting that resolved. It's frustrating to everyone, moderators and developers included, that this has become such a headache now culminating with the site being largely at a standstill for the last few hours. Nonetheless, our hands are tied for the moment until we resolve that ongoing issue. If it were as simple as renewing certificates we'd have taken care of it in minutes.

There is nothing okay with this and we not only recognize but understand and share your frustration. Just be patient for now please.

Re: Site certification expired

by Jamiet99uk » Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:23 pm

A_Tin_Can wrote:
Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:03 pm
Jamiet, it’s good to see that you haven’t become any less ungrateful in the six years since I stopped moderating the site. If you’re still unhappy, I’m sure you’re entitled to a refund on your monthly subscription. Well, I’m sure you’re entitled, at least.
Whatever.

You run a website, any website, you'd think you'd be able to keep the security certificates up to date, no?

This seems to be something the rest of the internet thinks is a basic requirement, hence the warnings a lot of us are getting when trying to access the site.

I'm totally ungrateful for your efforts personally because you always made it clear you didn't care about the views of actual site users.

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