20 Questions Game 340 - 7-way Multiball Edition!

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Re: 20 Questions Game 340 - 7-way Multiball Edition!

by Hominidae » Fri Jul 12, 2024 12:40 am

I'm sorry I missed the excitement, but great round!

Re: 20 Questions Game 340 - 7-way Multiball Edition!

by Spartaculous » Thu Jul 11, 2024 10:59 pm

DreamTrawler wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 11, 2024 7:27 pm
 The Robert the Bruce thing is amusing, was it a mistake or an intentional joke?
Intentional joke. See the last page of Round #2, plus Round #42 (along with many rounds in between). (There's a lot of interesting 20Q history in the days before I started playing.)

Re: 20 Questions Game 340 - 7-way Multiball Edition!

by MythosOfMen » Thu Jul 11, 2024 10:02 pm

Well constructed! Work got too busy for me to really participate (it was this or my gunboat games) but I enjoyed following along! nice theme and excellent puzzle! Thanks Dream :)

Re: 20 Questions Game 340 - 7-way Multiball Edition!

by DreamTrawler » Thu Jul 11, 2024 7:29 pm

DreamTrawler wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 11, 2024 7:27 pm
 There should be animals named after the other sins, at any rate.

The Robert the Bruce thing is amusing, was it a mistake or an intentional joke?

Also, as pointed out in a previous round, there is another way to play coy with the “no repeats” rule…
Actually, I just remembered wolverines were also called “gluttons”.

Re: 20 Questions Game 340 - 7-way Multiball Edition!

by DreamTrawler » Thu Jul 11, 2024 7:27 pm

There should be animals named after the other sins, at any rate.

The Robert the Bruce thing is amusing, was it a mistake or an intentional joke?

Also, as pointed out in a previous round, there is another way to play coy with the “no repeats” rule…

Re: 20 Questions Game 340 - 7-way Multiball Edition!

by Spartaculous » Thu Jul 11, 2024 7:03 pm

han-shahanshah wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:04 pm
 E is Sid the sloth (?)
I love the fact that sloths are named, well, sloths. Like, Europeans had this word to describe extreme laziness, and then went over to the Americas, found this animal, and were like, yep, the name "sloth" fits them *perfectly*.
Aristocrat wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:51 pm
 According to the rules it is actually you (longest without being qm) but if you want to pass it to Sparty I am ok with that too (I will pass given that I just ninja'd a few answers here at the end).
I definitely feel like I was doing ninja work as well - in terms of chronological order, I got the 5th and 7th correct answers after everyone else figured out the theme.
DreamTrawler wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 11, 2024 6:04 pm
 No pressure! You can always defer if you want. But am excited to see a new round either way - I feel bad for monopolizing the 20 questions forum for a week.
Check out Round #128 (the first one I ever participated in) - it took a full two weeks to run.
DreamTrawler wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 11, 2024 6:18 pm
 Some behind-the-scenes info:

I had originally come up with a different set of 7 with a different theme but they were almost impossible to guess without figuring out the theme. I might use one of the more recognizable ones as a target later. I also considered a planets theme, but Freddie Mercury was already done.
See rounds 195 and 204. (I've also considered doing something akin to round 95 and surreptitiously deleting the "no repeats" rule and seeing if anyone notices.)

Re: 20 Questions Game 340 - 7-way Multiball Edition!

by DreamTrawler » Thu Jul 11, 2024 6:18 pm

Some behind-the-scenes info:

I had originally come up with a different set of 7 with a different theme but they were almost impossible to guess without figuring out the theme. I might use one of the more recognizable ones as a target later. I also considered a planets theme, but Freddie Mercury was already done.

Then I decided on the 7 deadly sins as a famous set of 7. I had previously wanted to pick Gilbert Baker during Pride Month, so he was in. I was going to pick people whose actions were in same way related to the "sin" i.e. a sex symbol for lust, a billionaire or maybe Scrooge McDuck for greed, a competitive eater or Kirby for gluttony, Rip van Winkle or Snorlax for sloth, etc.

But I got worried that people wouldn't be able to figure out the theme easily, so instead I changed it to targets whose names were the names of the "sins" themselves. Sid the sloth, Greedo, and Envy Adams came to mind immediately. The others were found by Wikipedia searching (though I had very vaguely heard of them before). I kept Gilbert Baker as Pride even though he didn't exactly fit the new theme, and only later remembered Kitty Pryde from X-Men as a great alternative choice.

I hope this was an enjoyable round despite how long it was up, and that the picks were not too out there. I would be down to host a smaller multi-target round in the future - I have ideas for 3-answer and 5-answer ones that should hopefully be easier.

Re: 20 Questions Game 340 - 7-way Multiball Edition!

by JECE » Thu Jul 11, 2024 6:17 pm

DreamTrawler wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 11, 2024 6:04 pm
DougJoe wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 11, 2024 6:02 pm
 I forgot about the "longest drought" rule. Ok, I'll go ahead and run one! Game 341 to come later today.
No pressure! You can always defer if you want. But am excited to see a new round either way - I feel bad for monopolizing the 20 questions forum for a week.
A welcome respite from the rapid-fire, to be honest (though I missed this round)

Re: 20 Questions Game 340 - 7-way Multiball Edition!

by DreamTrawler » Thu Jul 11, 2024 6:04 pm

DougJoe wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 11, 2024 6:02 pm
 I forgot about the "longest drought" rule. Ok, I'll go ahead and run one! Game 341 to come later today.
No pressure! You can always defer if you want. But am excited to see a new round either way - I feel bad for monopolizing the 20 questions forum for a week.

Re: 20 Questions Game 340 - 7-way Multiball Edition!

by DougJoe » Thu Jul 11, 2024 6:02 pm

I forgot about the "longest drought" rule. Ok, I'll go ahead and run one! Game 341 to come later today.

Re: 20 Questions Game 340 - 7-way Multiball Edition!

by DreamTrawler » Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:52 pm

So in summary, the theme was the 7 deadly sins.

We have:

Person A - Gilbert Baker, creator of the Gay Pride flag. Went by the drag name Busty Ross, a play on Betsy Ross. (guessed by Spartaculous)
Person B - Erika Lust, Swedish director/writer/producer of feminist pornography. (guessed by Aristocrat)
Person C - Ernst vom (w)Rath, Nazi German diplomat who was assassinated by Polish-Jewish teenager Herschel Grynszpan in 1938. Unfortunately, this was used a pretext for Kristallnacht, "the night of broken glass". (guessed by Spartaculous)
Person D - Glutonny, French Super Smash Bros player and Wario main, considered the best in Europe. (guessed by Aristocrat)
Person E - Sid the Sloth, from the movie Ice Age. (guessed by han-shahanshah)
Person F - Greedo, alien bounty hunter from Star Wars. (guessed by DougJoe)
Person G - Envy Adams, fictional pop star and ex-girlfriend from Scott Pilgrim vs the World. (guessed by DougJoe).

We have a 3 way tie, but by the "longest drought" rule I think DougJoe is the winner? Or should we have a tiebreaker?

Re: 20 Questions Game 340 - 7-way Multiball Edition!

by Aristocrat » Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:51 pm

DougJoe wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:49 pm
 It looks like Aristocrat got 2, Spartaculous got 2, and I got 2. Not sure how who does the next round is determined, but I'm happy to defer to either Aristo or Sparty.
According to the rules it is actually you (longest without being qm) but if you want to pass it to Sparty I am ok with that too (I will pass given that I just ninja'd a few answers here at the end).

Re: 20 Questions Game 340 - 7-way Multiball Edition!

by DougJoe » Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:49 pm

It looks like Aristocrat got 2, Spartaculous got 2, I got 2, and Han got 1. Not sure how who does the next round is determined, but I'm happy to defer - don't have time to run a round right now.

Re: 20 Questions Game 340 - 7-way Multiball Edition!

by Spartaculous » Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:44 pm

DreamTrawler wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:42 pm
Spartaculous wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:32 pm
 Oh wait, I figured this out the other day. Gilbert Baker is pride.
Gilbert Baker, creator of the Gay Pride flag, is correct!

As mentioned, he does not fit the theme exactly by not having the "sin" in his name, and I later thought of a better subject that would have fit that criteria. I also feel bad about picking a gay rights activist in a round about "sin", but I had wanted to pick him during Pride Month which is what inspired the round in the first place.
As I said, I came up with him the other day, but you could see how I would be confused as to what the theme would be, just given him. I couldn't come up with any candlestick makers.

Re: 20 Questions Game 340 - 7-way Multiball Edition!

by DougJoe » Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:44 pm

DreamTrawler wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:42 pm
DougJoe wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:32 pm
Spartaculous wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:31 pm

I don't have time to research, but I bet someone has initials N. V..
I was thinking for G, Natalie V. "Envy" Adams from Scott Pilgrim?

Pride, Wrath, Envy are left.
Envy Adams from Scott Pilgrim is correct!
Hello again, friend of a friend, I knew you when...

Cool idea for a theme!

Re: 20 Questions Game 340 - 7-way Multiball Edition!

by DreamTrawler » Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:42 pm

Spartaculous wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:38 pm
 And C is Ernst vom Rath.
And finally, Ernst vom Rath, the Nazi diplomat whose assassination unfortunately sparked the Kristallnacht, is correct.

Re: 20 Questions Game 340 - 7-way Multiball Edition!

by DreamTrawler » Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:42 pm

DougJoe wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:32 pm
Spartaculous wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:31 pm
DreamTrawler wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:19 pm
 4 correct guesses in a row, great job all. 3 left. One of them breaks the pattern a little bit.
I don't have time to research, but I bet someone has initials N. V..
I was thinking for G, Natalie V. "Envy" Adams from Scott Pilgrim?

Pride, Wrath, Envy are left.
Envy Adams from Scott Pilgrim is correct!

Re: 20 Questions Game 340 - 7-way Multiball Edition!

by DreamTrawler » Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:42 pm

Spartaculous wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:32 pm
 Oh wait, I figured this out the other day. Gilbert Baker is pride.
Gilbert Baker, creator of the Gay Pride flag, is correct!

As mentioned, he does not fit the theme exactly by not having the "sin" in his name, and I later thought of a better subject that would have fit that criteria. I also feel bad about picking a gay rights activist in a round about "sin", but I had wanted to pick him during Pride Month which is what inspired the round in the first place.

Re: 20 Questions Game 340 - 7-way Multiball Edition!

by Spartaculous » Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:38 pm

And C is Ernst vom Rath.

Re: 20 Questions Game 340 - 7-way Multiball Edition!

by Spartaculous » Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:37 pm

DougJoe wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:32 pm
Spartaculous wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:31 pm
DreamTrawler wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:19 pm
 4 correct guesses in a row, great job all. 3 left. One of them breaks the pattern a little bit.
I don't have time to research, but I bet someone has initials N. V..
I was thinking for G, Natalie V. "Envy" Adams from Scott Pilgrim?

Pride, Wrath, Envy are left.
That must be it.

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