Twenty Questions: Round 324

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Re: Twenty Questions: Round 324

by Aristocrat » Wed Jun 26, 2024 4:13 pm

I will say I deserve any and all verbal abuse about interpreting words that CDN can send my way ;)

Re: Twenty Questions: Round 324

by DreamTrawler » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:12 pm

Sounds good. Next thread will be up momentarily

Re: Twenty Questions: Round 324

by cdngooner » Wed Jun 26, 2024 10:53 am

Naah, its all good. Its just a game. You go for it DreamTrawler. We can all have objections to how a QM answers a question, but at the end of the day its the QM's prerogative and we have to adapt. Congrats on not getting caught up in the semantic weeds like I did.

Re: Twenty Questions: Round 324

by DreamTrawler » Wed Jun 26, 2024 6:07 am

Aristocrat wrote: ↑
Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:28 am
DreamTrawler wrote: ↑
Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:23 am
cdngooner wrote: ↑
Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:19 am
I swear, if that's it, after I mentioned him ...

The question was how this person "attained" fame, not how he's known today. Michael Jackson attained more fame than most people in the world as part of a group. That he later extended his fame doesn't change how he attained it.
Yeah, I was hoping if it was Michael Jackson the answer would be Pass. But the hint made me wonder
It is Michael Jackson (died 15 years ago today; the pick was not random). Though if you feel bad about the win you don't need to be QM and can pass the baton off to cdngooner.

As to the controversy: the question asked if the person attained fame "primarily" as a member of a band or musical group. Jackson as a solo artist was orders of magnitude bigger than the Jackson 5 (particularly in the 95% of the world outside the US, most of which did not care about Motown). Given that fame is not something that can actually be measured and apportioned, I made the judgment call that a more significant portion of his fame was attained during his solo career than his group career.

I did not answer this intending to deceive people, so like I said if you really feel like it was answered incorrectly you are welcome to transfer the win.
Hmm… I’ll see what cdngooner has to say. For what it’s worth I didn’t just directly crib the answer, I had MJ in mind after guessing Prince and was going to guess him during the 5 guesses anyway. But like cdngooner I was influenced by my “primarily attained fame in a group” question and your hint is what made me more certain.

Re: Twenty Questions: Round 324

by Aristocrat » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:28 am

DreamTrawler wrote: ↑
Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:23 am
cdngooner wrote: ↑
Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:19 am
Michael Jackson?
I swear, if that's it, after I mentioned him ...

The question was how this person "attained" fame, not how he's known today. Michael Jackson attained more fame than most people in the world as part of a group. That he later extended his fame doesn't change how he attained it.
Yeah, I was hoping if it was Michael Jackson the answer would be Pass. But the hint made me wonder
It is Michael Jackson (died 15 years ago today; the pick was not random). Though if you feel bad about the win you don't need to be QM and can pass the baton off to cdngooner.

As to the controversy: the question asked if the person attained fame "primarily" as a member of a band or musical group. Jackson as a solo artist was orders of magnitude bigger than the Jackson 5 (particularly in the 95% of the world outside the US, most of which did not care about Motown). Given that fame is not something that can actually be measured and apportioned, I made the judgment call that a more significant portion of his fame was attained during his solo career than his group career.

I did not answer this intending to deceive people, so like I said if you really feel like it was answered incorrectly you are welcome to transfer the win.

Re: Twenty Questions: Round 324

by DreamTrawler » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:23 am

cdngooner wrote: ↑
Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:19 am
Michael Jackson?
I swear, if that's it, after I mentioned him ...

The question was how this person "attained" fame, not how he's known today. Michael Jackson attained more fame than most people in the world as part of a group. That he later extended his fame doesn't change how he attained it.
Yeah, I was hoping if it was Michael Jackson the answer would be Pass. But the hint made me wonder

Re: Twenty Questions: Round 324

by cdngooner » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:19 am

Michael Jackson?
I swear, if that's it, after I mentioned him ...

The question was how this person "attained" fame, not how he's known today. Michael Jackson attained more fame than most people in the world as part of a group. That he later extended his fame doesn't change how he attained it.

Re: Twenty Questions: Round 324

by DreamTrawler » Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:19 am

Michael Jackson?

Re: Twenty Questions: Round 324

by Aristocrat » Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:01 am

cdngooner wrote: ↑
Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:33 am
 I'll just throw a dart and guess James Taylor.
No
Hominidae wrote: ↑
Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:36 am
 Born in 1948 or later?
Yes
miminena wrote: ↑
Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:40 am
Hominidae wrote: ↑
Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:36 am
 Born in 1948 or later?
If yes, John Mellencamp?
No

A final hint on fame, by way of analogy. Given her stratospheric success over the last 10 years as a pure pop musician, I would not say Taylor Swift has primarily attained fame by being a country musician, although that is how she initially attained it.

Re: Twenty Questions: Round 324

by miminena » Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:40 am

Hominidae wrote: ↑
Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:36 am
 Born in 1948 or later?
If yes, John Mellencamp?

Re: Twenty Questions: Round 324

by Hominidae » Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:36 am

Born in 1948 or later?

Re: Twenty Questions: Round 324

by cdngooner » Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:33 am

There are so damn many possibilities. With the link to TV, I wanted it to be Ricky Nelson, but he died before 1999. Then I thought the most famous, Michael Jackson, but he achieved fame as part of the Jackson 5. I'll just throw a dart and guess James Taylor.

Re: Twenty Questions: Round 324

by Aristocrat » Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:26 am

Spartaculous wrote: ↑
Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:00 am
 New free guess, if allowed: Billy Joel.
Not Billy Joel

Re: Twenty Questions: Round 324

by Hominidae » Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:05 am

Spartaculous wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:56 pm
 Per Rule 10, I humbly apologize to the QM, and beg for forgiveness.
Apparently Jamie put that in for Round 271 (Olivia Newton-John). How did I not notice that until now?

Re: Twenty Questions: Round 324

by Spartaculous » Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:00 am

New free guess, if allowed: Billy Joel.

Re: Twenty Questions: Round 324

by Spartaculous » Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:56 pm

Per Rule 10, I humbly apologize to the QM, and beg for forgiveness.

Re: Twenty Questions: Round 324

by Spartaculous » Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:54 pm

Free guess: Bob Dylan.

Edit: scratch (won Oscar)

Re: Twenty Questions: Round 324

by Hominidae » Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:47 pm

Aristocrat wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:46 pm
Hominidae wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:43 pm
 1,2,7. Real human born in the Northern Hemisphere, in what is now the United States or Canada.
3,4,6,13,17. Born 1938-1958.
5. Male.
8,9. Primarily known for visual or performing arts.
10. Has been in a movie or TV show after 1999.
11. Not primarily known for acting in movies.
12. Has not won an Emmy Award for acting.
14. Known for film direction or music.
15. Has not ever won or been nominated for a Golden Globe.
16. Rock star or other popular musician who had a cameo appearance in a movie or TV show (and may or may not have had other acting roles).
17. Inducted to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (as an individual or member of a group).
18. Did not attain fame primarily as a member of a musical group.

Free additional information: Has not ever won an Oscar or BAFTA for acting.

NOT
Prince (DreamTrawler)
Paul Simon (Hominidae)
It's actually at 19 I think (17 is double counted in the above) so free guessers are on the clock.
Whoops, sorry about that.

Re: Twenty Questions: Round 324

by Aristocrat » Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:46 pm

Hominidae wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:43 pm
 1,2,7. Real human born in the Northern Hemisphere, in what is now the United States or Canada.
3,4,6,13,17. Born 1938-1958.
5. Male.
8,9. Primarily known for visual or performing arts.
10. Has been in a movie or TV show after 1999.
11. Not primarily known for acting in movies.
12. Has not won an Emmy Award for acting.
14. Known for film direction or music.
15. Has not ever won or been nominated for a Golden Globe.
16. Rock star or other popular musician who had a cameo appearance in a movie or TV show (and may or may not have had other acting roles).
17. Inducted to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (as an individual or member of a group).
18. Did not attain fame primarily as a member of a musical group.

Free additional information: Has not ever won an Oscar or BAFTA for acting.

NOT
Prince (DreamTrawler)
Paul Simon (Hominidae)
It's actually at 19 I think (17 is double counted in the above) so free guessers are on the clock.

Re: Twenty Questions: Round 324

by Hominidae » Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:43 pm

1,2,7. Real human born in the Northern Hemisphere, in what is now the United States or Canada.
3,4,6,13,17. Born 1938-1958.
5. Male.
8,9. Primarily known for visual or performing arts.
10. Has been in a movie or TV show after 1999.
11. Not primarily known for acting in movies.
12. Has not won an Emmy Award for acting.
14. Known for film direction or music.
15. Has not ever won or been nominated for a Golden Globe.
16. Rock star or other popular musician who had a cameo appearance in a movie or TV show (and may or may not have had other acting roles).
17. Inducted to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (as an individual or member of a group).
18. Did not attain fame primarily as a member of a musical group.

Free additional information: Has not ever won an Oscar or BAFTA for acting.

NOT
Prince (DreamTrawler)
Paul Simon (Hominidae)

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