[quote=han-shahanshah post_id=330633 time=1676870434 user_id=24100]
You got it, Jamie! Congratulations.
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A good one, thank you!

The "was she democratically elected" question was the one that crystallised it.

You got it, Jamie! Congratulations.

I think this must be a good contender. Unelected political figure, from one of the counties in scope, went to university there, was alive in the correct time period, and was also an actress but is not mostly known for that.

Yeah.

Free guess:

Jiang Qing

[quote=dargorygel post_id=330492 time=1676834416 user_id=132]
I keep thinking (incorrectly I know) of the Dont Cry For Me Argentina lady
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No, it isn't Madonna.

free guess: Shams Pahlavi?

I keep thinking (incorrectly I know) of the Dont Cry For Me Argentina lady

[quote=Kakarroto post_id=330468 time=1676813972 user_id=7593]
In hindsight, I know, but I had a hunch she lived/died earlier and no one gave me any input in my questions to the room so I went with it.

But yeah, with Jamie now we had all the questions, lets wait for the answer and get in our guesses, I guess.
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My question was the 19th question, there's one left.

[quote=Jamiet99uk post_id=330466 time=1676811186 user_id=137]
Was she ever democratically elected?
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Haha, no. ;)

[quote=Kakarroto post_id=330461 time=1676803285 user_id=7593]
A stateswoman that worked as an entertainer (but didn't get famous for it) and went into a university in her home country (which was never occupied while she was alive).

Does for anyone ring that a bell?
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^^ This sums it up well.

In hindsight, I know, but I had a hunch she lived/died earlier and no one gave me any input in my questions to the room so I went with it.

But yeah, with Jamie now we had all the questions, lets wait for the answer and get in our guesses, I guess.

[quote=Jamiet99uk post_id=330324 time=1676772434 user_id=137]
This obsession with geography is not actually helpful at all. We have almost no idea [u]why[/u] this woman is famous, yet with only a few questions left, you are desperate to work out exactly which street she was born in.
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Not sure who this was aimed at, but most on-line lists of famous people are oriented around geography. I fail to see why a stateswoman would be an exception to that tendency. In any case, in case this was directed at me, analysis of when military occupations occured is vital so that we ask useful future questions (e. g., 1970 was too soon after World War II to be very helpful) or waste a guess on otherwise strong candidates like Corazon Aquino.

Was she ever democratically elected?

A stateswoman that worked as an entertainer (but didn't get famous for it) and went into a university in her home country (which was never occupied while she was alive).

Does for anyone ring that a bell?

[quote=Hamish post_id=330119 time=1676750998 user_id=13847]
[quote=JECE post_id=329954 time=1676659714 user_id=256]
If Indonesian, Japanese, Filipina, Vietnamese or Iranian, it is my understanding that she would have to had been born after World War II ended.

If Chinese or Russian, she may be older.
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Not sure about Japanese. It was never fully occupied was it?
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The military occupation of Japan by the Allied Powers lasted from 1945 to 1952, though it was primarily carried out by US forces.

I suppose it counts as fully occupied since Japan surrendered unconditionally, but by some argument of definition (like there wasn't enough american soldiers to stand on every meter/yard on japanese earth) someone could say it wasn't. But I think we don't deal with a definition like that.


With her death after 01.01.1970 and her max life span of 79 (plus min life of 41), lets see how that work out:

lets say she died 2022 and lived 41 years, then she lived from 1981-2022
if she died 2022 and lived 71 years, then she lived from 1951-2022
lets say she died 1971 and lived 41 years, then she lived from 1930-1971
and if she died 1971 and lived 71 years, then she lived from 1900-1971

well, these are the four extremes (latest year, max life length, earliest year, min life length), but we see it's possible she lived through both world wars, only one, or none. (note to self, I should've asked about a later date)


[u]I'm not sure which question gives us the most information, but for the last question before our free guesses go away, I suggest one of these topics:[/u]
-) more detail what kind of stateswoman
-) decreasing the possible range of her lifespan
-) it would help knowing what made her famous, but I think, less than a GM hint, we will not get it (except if we are godly lucky) if we ask about it
-) getting to know which country exactly should help us in the end too, but I'm not sure if we can achieve that with only one question left.
-) we could try to find out more about that university in her homecountry?


1. Real and dead.
2. Not male.
3. Does not have a Hollywood star.
4. Born after December 31st 1889.
5. Not born in a dominantly anglophone country.
6. Not born in the Americas.
7. Never won a Nobel or Pulitzer.
8. Not famous for her career in entertainment
9. Not born in Europe
10. Definitely a stateswoman
11. Not born in a country that was ever fully occupied by another nation during her lifetime (including the formation of a country, example Estonia)*
12. Asian
13. Died between ages 40 and 80
14. Not born in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh or Sri Lanka
15. Not Thai
16. Educated in a university in her home country
17. From China, Indonesia, Russia, Japan, the Philippines, Vietnam, or Iran.
18. Died after 01.01.1970

*it was partially occupied, if you need the hint.

NOT Bandaranaike (damo666)
NOT Benazir Bhutto (Octavious) REFUNDED

hints given:
[color=red]She was educated in a university in her home country (probably the answer most useful to you).[/color]

..She was a stateswoman/politician as stated in question ten.

This obsession with geography is not actually helpful at all. We have almost no idea [u]why[/u] this woman is famous, yet with only a few questions left, you are desperate to work out exactly which street she was born in.

[quote=JECE post_id=329954 time=1676659714 user_id=256]
If Indonesian, Japanese, Filipina, Vietnamese or Iranian, it is my understanding that she would have to had been born after World War II ended.

If Chinese or Russian, she may be older.
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Not sure about Japanese. It was never fully occupied was it?

Dead after.

If Indonesian, Japanese, Filipina, Vietnamese or Iranian, it is my understanding that she would have to had been born after World War II ended.

If Chinese or Russian, she may be older.

Did she die before 01.01.1970?