Mafia 88: Murder at the Meadery - GAME THREAD

[sweetandcool]

Don’t want worcej.

##vote sweet if those are my choices.

And for the record: I hate these choices. Do better, town.

Might not be back. Have kids and company.

How about Bozo? I'd go Bozo if I had some company.

Agreed. I'm mostly just concerned with consolidation. Bozo is about as good as worcej.

[sweetandcool]

Don’t want worcej.

##vote sweet if those are my choices.

And for the record: I hate these choices. Do better, town.

Might not be back. Have kids and company.

How about Bozo? I'd go Bozo if I had some company.

Agreed. I'm mostly just concerned with consolidation. Bozo is about as good as worcej.

Actually no, I don't like flipping Bozo.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Don’t want worcej.

##vote sweet if those are my choices.

And for the record: I hate these choices. Do better, town.

Might not be back. Have kids and company.

How about Bozo? I'd go Bozo if I had some company.

Why, though?

Because you're in the POE mainly, and because I find you hard to read generally, and because your arguments do not strike me as particularly sincere. But I will admit that this last reason is iffy. I have never been very good at reading you.

[worcej]

I was completely off your case for a bit there, but those posts actually made me feel its much more likely you did in fact bus Will.

You trying to pass it off like its completely unrealistic that you'd feel its your turn now to get a good game as scum by getting some early bus cred after Will did it twice to you, because of some emotional argument simply does not fly as evidence, because thats just your words which we have no way of checking.

Moreso, you acting like the decision of whether to bus or not was some decision in a vacuum that was only based on your dislike from it happened to you in the past is also completely dishonest, because Will was getting deathtunneled by certain people and it was obvious that Bona was gonna crusade for that wagon to the death.

Also, even without reading today at all, that final thought has been stated at least a few times already in different words.

I think it's disingenuous to imply I am arguing that I didn't bus because I've outright indicated in prior analysis by me (notably N1) that my slot can bus.

What I have been pointing out is apparent hypocrisy in the analysis and poor framing (notably by Balki) about how my vote happened without acknowledgement of the fact I could've easily saved my teammate in those regards.

[Chaqa]

## Call GM: do we learn the Miller's true role when they die?

Yes.

[worcej]

##vote hamilton
##end

I am sure it feels cool to write out "end" like it's a giant and menacing exclamation point. But you know we're not going to join you on that. You know it is bad for town to end the phase now. I'd like you to please stop doing it.

Firmly agree with Balki's take here.

Ya'll need to stop being scared of an end vote.

[Chaqa]

M88 Day 4 Vote Count 6
worcej (6): Hamilton Brian, kingofthepirates, sweetandcool, Jamiet99uk, Balki Bartokomous, BunnyGo
sweetandcool (3): DiplomacyandWarfare, Vecna, Bonatogether
Bonatogether (2): Spartaculous, bozotheclown
Hamilton Brian (1): worcej [END]

Currently WORCEJ is set to be killed.

~45 minutes remain

[Hamilton Brian]

I am basically caught up now.

Sorry again to BunnyGo for shouting at him because I didn't realise he was joking around. I had been drinking. I am a flawed individual.

Hamilton Brian, I have some questions for you:

Why did you repeatedly state you were going to do a re-read on Worcej, but then not actually do so? It was my goal and my intent but with work and home life consuming most of my 16 non-sleeping hours, it couldn't happen

Second, talk us through your immediate recollection of how people reacted to both (a) your Cop claim, and (b) your retraction? I think I remember some surprise but then ghug really seemed irate. Damo and ghug were pushing for scans so I tried to give them something that was ambiguous.

See the bold responses.

[worcej]

The ham wagon is terrible. Vecna seems to know exactly what is going on, but rarely posts, which is a scumlean to me. Balki is actively engaging and being very levelheaded compared to the rest of this nonsense. Sweet continues to play very well. Bunny has been posting a lot but doesn't seem to be doing much, and requires further analysis.

The ham wagon doesn’t feel terrible if what I have read is true…

Lol at Worcej feeling the need to say this while he was endvoting Hamilton.

Explain the joke for me Peter

[Spartaculous]

M88 Day 4 Vote Count 6
worcej (6): Hamilton Brian, kingofthepirates, sweetandcool, Jamiet99uk, Balki Bartokomous, BunnyGo
sweetandcool (3): DiplomacyandWarfare, Vecna, Bonatogether
Bonatogether (2): Spartaculous, bozotheclown
Hamilton Brian (1): worcej [END]

Currently WORCEJ is set to be killed.

~45 minutes remain

##CALL GM

I thought Bunny moved to sweet?

Don’t want worcej.

##vote sweet if those are my choices.

And for the record: I hate these choices. Do better, town.

Might not be back. Have kids and company.

Is this Bunny's most recent vote?

[BunnyGo]

M88 Day 4 Vote Count 6
worcej (6): Hamilton Brian, kingofthepirates, sweetandcool, Jamiet99uk, Balki Bartokomous, BunnyGo
sweetandcool (3): DiplomacyandWarfare, Vecna, Bonatogether
Bonatogether (2): Spartaculous, bozotheclown
Hamilton Brian (1): worcej [END]

Currently WORCEJ is set to be killed.

~45 minutes remain

I’m voting sweet

[BunnyGo]

M88 Day 4 Vote Count 6
worcej (6): Hamilton Brian, kingofthepirates, sweetandcool, Jamiet99uk, Balki Bartokomous, BunnyGo
sweetandcool (3): DiplomacyandWarfare, Vecna, Bonatogether
Bonatogether (2): Spartaculous, bozotheclown
Hamilton Brian (1): worcej [END]

Currently WORCEJ is set to be killed.

~45 minutes remain

I’m voting sweet

Under protest

[worcej]

I am up to Page 128 and now I need to go and get something to eat.

I will be back before EoD hopefully, but just in case I am not, my scans were:

N1: Balki (innocent)
N2: Damo (innocent)
N3: Worcej (guilty)

Oh boy will my flip disappoint you greatly if you're telling the truth...

[BunnyGo]

M88 Day 4 Vote Count 6
worcej (6): Hamilton Brian, kingofthepirates, sweetandcool, Jamiet99uk, Balki Bartokomous, BunnyGo
sweetandcool (3): DiplomacyandWarfare, Vecna, Bonatogether
Bonatogether (2): Spartaculous, bozotheclown
Hamilton Brian (1): worcej [END]

Currently WORCEJ is set to be killed.

~45 minutes remain

I’m voting sweet

Under protest

Really don’t like that all 3 leading wagons are Just voters

[worcej]

Hamilton Brian, will you join Balki and myself and yeet Worcej?

So because I am low energy (how do you measure energy btw?) you now think I am scum? Because “low energy” me is scum me, right?

Do I have your case against me nailed?

It's a fairly strong indicator.

I can't wait for your indicator to be replaced.

[worcej]

I’m voting sweet

Under protest

Really don’t like that all 3 leading wagons are Just voters

I actually do like it personally, as the D1 VC with known flips is very blatantly indicative of bussing of some sort

[Chaqa]

Good catch all. Not sure how I missed that.

M88 Day 4 Vote Count 6.1
worcej (5): Hamilton Brian, kingofthepirates, sweetandcool, Jamiet99uk, Balki Bartokomous
sweetandcool (4): DiplomacyandWarfare, Vecna, Bonatogether, BunnyGo
Bonatogether (2): Spartaculous, bozotheclown
Hamilton Brian (1): worcej [END]

Currently WORCEJ is set to be killed.

~35 minutes remain

[BunnyGo]

Under protest

Really don’t like that all 3 leading wagons are Just voters

I actually do like it personally, as the D1 VC with known flips is very blatantly indicative of bussing of some sort

Well…then it’s 5-putative 5 as I expect you to tie it again…

[worcej]

M88 Day 3 Final Vote Count
Lord of Words (6): Spartaculous, damo666, Hamilton Brian, sweetandcool, Diplomacy&Warfare, BunnyGo
Hamilton Brian (4): worcej, Bonatogether, Lord of Words, kingofthepirates
Bozotheclown (2): Balki Bartokomous, Jamiet99uk
worcej (2): Vecna, bozotheclown

PM me shortly if anything looks wrong.

Unfortunately the votes here don't tell us much, I don't think.

I pushed LoW strongly on D2 so I have to take some of the blame for him being flipped.

Hamilton as the second wagon is not surprising given the way some of us responded to his claim. If Hamilton is scum with Worcej, Worcej bussing him is unsurprising. If Hamilton is town, idk.

Hmmm. Perhaps Hamilton does need to flip at some point.

I will have a question for Hamilton in due course; but he may have addressed it himself so I will catch up first.

I am wondering if there's a world where mafia wouldn't be on Hamilton Brian. I mean, if it's a town slot that looks dubious at best, and there's angry town, would mafia sit back and let angry town run it? We know LoW was town.

If it's a ludicrous suggestion, then worcej, bona, or king would make decent flips today. Seems that bona is big in people's townleans.

If it's not ludicours, then those 3 wouldn't be flipped other than the fact that I don't read them as very town.

I read this post and get confused...

If angry town are leading it, why do you want to kill the angry town?

[worcej]

I feel like a tie vote 30 minutes away from change isn't last minute

##vote sweet