Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

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Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

#1241 Post by snowy801 » Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:21 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
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Please keep any GM feedback out of this thread. Send a DM. Thanks.
No. Players need to be keyed into important discussions like this as much as a GM, and to pretend otherwise for "civility" is admitting we don't want to play an honest game

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Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

#1242 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:22 pm

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Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:19 pm
Frankly, if I were scum I'm already considering subtle changes to my profile picture to signal to each other during the game, regardless of the intent of Will's changes
Please flesh out this theory about how scum might use their profile pictures to signal to each other. Why would you be considering that if you were scum?

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Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

#1243 Post by Chaqa » Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:22 pm

I did DM Jamie and was basically told was told to chill.

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Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

#1244 Post by Chaqa » Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:23 pm

I have no idea what happened to that sentence lol

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Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

#1245 Post by brainbomb » Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:24 pm

accusations of racism
people changing avatars
GMs injecting themselves into the game


oh and snowy looks very town in that.

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Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

#1246 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:25 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:24 pm
accusations of racism
people changing avatars
GMs injecting themselves into the game


oh and snowy looks very town in that.
Please explain why Snowy looks very town in that. I don't have that impression.

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Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

#1247 Post by snowy801 » Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:25 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:22 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:19 pm
Frankly, if I were scum I'm already considering subtle changes to my profile picture to signal to each other during the game, regardless of the intent of Will's changes
Please flesh out this theory about how scum might use their profile pictures to signal to each other. Why would you be considering that if you were scum?
Tonight, I list out a series of possibilities to changing my profile picture, if I had one. Small changes that involve pixel level details, or perhaps near-impossible to notice details that would fade into the background

Then the next day, at either a signalled time or comment based queue, I would seek out these changes to my teammates' profile picture to see what it is they desire to communicate to me

It's not a difficult schema to come up with

You may argue why you can't do the same thing with coded comments, but comments leave a history, while profile pictures do not. It would be dishonest gameplay, regardless of its effectiveness

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#1248 Post by brainbomb » Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:26 pm

now we just need chippeerock to sub in
worcej to call someone a bitch
and durga to show up and call me an incel

then we can feel like the old forum mafia games

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Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

#1249 Post by brainbomb » Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:27 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:19 pm


I have neither shouted nor insulted you. That a response is stupid does not mean that you are

Your solo-GMing this game has no merit in this discussion. You are the GM

There is no reason to believe this behavior has stopped, as you have explicitly allowed it to continue

Frankly, if I were scum I'm already considering subtle changes to my profile picture to signal to each other during the game, regardless of the intent of Will's changes
@balki
that looks sincere and not intended to game the system

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Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

#1250 Post by Chaqa » Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:27 pm

It has been clarified that Jamie only allowed changing of profile pictures, not explicitly telling him he could use mine.
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Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

#1251 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:28 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:25 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:22 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:19 pm
Frankly, if I were scum I'm already considering subtle changes to my profile picture to signal to each other during the game, regardless of the intent of Will's changes
Please flesh out this theory about how scum might use their profile pictures to signal to each other. Why would you be considering that if you were scum?
Tonight, I list out a series of possibilities to changing my profile picture, if I had one. Small changes that involve pixel level details, or perhaps near-impossible to notice details that would fade into the background

Then the next day, at either a signalled time or comment based queue, I would seek out these changes to my teammates' profile picture to see what it is they desire to communicate to me

It's not a difficult schema to come up with

You may argue why you can't do the same thing with coded comments, but comments leave a history, while profile pictures do not. It would be dishonest gameplay, regardless of its effectiveness
Would you really do that? Like, really Snowy?

It would be an efficient use of your time to create a code using "pixel level details" of changes in an avatar, when you could just say: "bros, if I start my third post with a 'T' it means let's implement Operation Crimson Sky"?

This is a sincere concern that you have?

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#1252 Post by snowy801 » Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:28 pm

Anyway I randomly got triggered side eyeing the thread while working, so I shall (try to) be off again
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#1253 Post by sweetandcool » Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:29 pm

Ain't no rule that says a dog can't play Mafia.

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Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

#1254 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:30 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:27 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:19 pm


I have neither shouted nor insulted you. That a response is stupid does not mean that you are

Your solo-GMing this game has no merit in this discussion. You are the GM

There is no reason to believe this behavior has stopped, as you have explicitly allowed it to continue

Frankly, if I were scum I'm already considering subtle changes to my profile picture to signal to each other during the game, regardless of the intent of Will's changes
@balki
that looks sincere and not intended to game the system
Why does that look sincere? It is a silly concern that seems unlikely to come from a sincere place to me. Why does it look sincere to you?

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#1255 Post by snowy801 » Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:30 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:28 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:25 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:22 pm

Please flesh out this theory about how scum might use their profile pictures to signal to each other. Why would you be considering that if you were scum?
Tonight, I list out a series of possibilities to changing my profile picture, if I had one. Small changes that involve pixel level details, or perhaps near-impossible to notice details that would fade into the background

Then the next day, at either a signalled time or comment based queue, I would seek out these changes to my teammates' profile picture to see what it is they desire to communicate to me

It's not a difficult schema to come up with

You may argue why you can't do the same thing with coded comments, but comments leave a history, while profile pictures do not. It would be dishonest gameplay, regardless of its effectiveness
Would you really do that? Like, really Snowy?

It would be an efficient use of your time to create a code using "pixel level details" of changes in an avatar, when you could just say: "bros, if I start my third post with a 'T' it means let's implement Operation Crimson Sky"?

This is a sincere concern that you have?
No. It is a sincere concern of mine that out of game mechanics that is untrackable and unenforceable to be injected into a game of forum mafia, where it is explicitly understood that we are playing "to win" not joke around and have fun with friends, which is certainly another valid way to playing deduction games

I do not particularly care how effective those methods are, simply that they have been explicitly green lit by the GM
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Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

#1256 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:33 pm

Okay, let's catch the bad guys.

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#1257 Post by Kakarroto » Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:33 pm

foodcoats wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 3:57 pm
Diplomacy&Warfare wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 11:41 am
Hi. I appear to have missed 10-20 pages. What evidence do we have against DrFidelis, sweet, and damo?
In other news I'm going to take my vote off Chaqa because my evidence turned out to be a joke.
##UNVOTE
##VOTE NOKILL
Scum playing too scummy to be scum?
I kinda liked that post, like it seems to me that d&w got more info about chaqa and reevaluated. What about it is so mafia-esque?

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#1258 Post by snowy801 » Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:34 pm

I would prefer to see a deeper impression anyone has on King, dip, and ND if anyone is particularly inclined

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#1259 Post by snowy801 » Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:35 pm

ND especially seems to be some continuation of some protest some last game, which makes it difficult for me to interpret beyond that he's being deliberately obtuse

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Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

#1260 Post by sweetandcool » Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:39 pm

Kakarroto wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:33 pm
foodcoats wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 3:57 pm
Diplomacy&Warfare wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 11:41 am
Hi. I appear to have missed 10-20 pages. What evidence do we have against DrFidelis, sweet, and damo?
In other news I'm going to take my vote off Chaqa because my evidence turned out to be a joke.
##UNVOTE
##VOTE NOKILL
Scum playing too scummy to be scum?
I kinda liked that post, like it seems to me that d&w got more info about chaqa and reevaluated. What about it is so mafia-esque?
Man, I was briefly tempted to actually go back and try to convince you why Dip is scum. But first, I can't ISO them and I also really don't want to waste more time on a lost cause of a game.

I think Dip is Mafia because their play so far aligns with how I've seen them play as Mafia previously. I think I've seen a couple of posts that were unhelpful sheeping, and a couple posts that look like a lot of "work" but are largely pointless.

What's so impressive about this post? They just acknowledge all the people telling them that Chaqa was joking. Pretty sure they could have just moved onto their next suspect, which I'm pretty sure they've already expressed a strong desire on one or maybe two people, instead of just moving to No-Kill.

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