M1027: Community - Game Thread

[Jamiet99uk]

What do you think of my 'pair system' variation of bozo's system?

I think it is not helpful to come up with more and more variant systems at this point. We already lack a clear consensus. Adding additional options does not assist.

I think the double alignment outcome is the most important thing. Who the two targets are is less important.

Yes, but we need a consensus view on how to have all the VTs on one target, regardless of who it is.

[Jamiet99uk]

Oh but I don't like this from sweet.

You liked his other insincere posts pushing me. What changed here?

It feels rhetorical.

OK that seems reasonable.

[Hamilton Brian]

Naked voting frowned upon

Mostly re:
- Dings the conversation re: investigator power for not being optimal play despite there being two pretty distinct strategies discussed. Don't love the blanket opposition to both
- Kak vote feels contrived without further context

Did drag also support using no system? Like I said, I'm bad at reading, too impatient. I think advocating using no system is strange. We have this unique set up that gives us more power than meets the eye and we should use it

Make sure we tag dargoryel in here; don't need a spelling error causing something to be missed when ISOing with the bot.

[Hamilton Brian]

I townread Kak and kinda Chaqa and maaybe worcej. I'd like to kill in Monarch/sweet/darg/Jamie.

Seems like I am kind of in-line with some of your thoughts. Monarch I could get behind as a kill today. I would NOT be opposed to a sweet death either. Why darg and jamie?

[BK3K]

##vote damo

I don't really have any strong scum reads and damo has posted the least

[Jamiet99uk]

My opening posts were not scummy. Anyone who says they were scummy is being either stupid or insincere.

My reaction to Sweet's opening post was not scummy, and, moreover, it was consistent with the approach I had strongly advocated just prior to his posting it.

My further pushing of Sweet was reasonable in the face of his evasive behaviour.

People who are pushing a wagon on me are either:

- Naive scum who think I'm low-hanging fruit,

- Naive town who can't read the game,

- Ghug.

This may be the nicest thing you've ever said about me.

You're certainly not naive, Ghug. You're an experienced man of the world, competent in a variety of physical techniques. A man's man. A man's man's man. Oh yes.

[Jamiet99uk]

These wagons are becoming interesting.

[rdrivera2005]

I am some pages behind Aamd not sure if I will be able to read it at all.

I need to cast a vote and I don't really like Kak and Damo's wagon. Kak I just can't read and Damo looks like a coin flip considering his few posts.

I will ##vote Darg because I can't see a town reasoning on his posts it looks like he is just sensing the game and how it develops and this is usually a scum approach.

[Jamiet99uk]

##vote damo

I don't really have any strong scum reads and damo has posted the least

A compelling barometer.

[Jamiet99uk]

I will ##vote Darg because I can't see a town reasoning on his posts it looks like he is just sensing the game and how it develops and this is usually a scum approach.

That makes it 3 v 3 v 3.

Really interesting.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Damo: Please detail why my play has been suboptimal?

I think I'm doing just fine.

I retract this question: I mis-read Damo's post.

[Chaqa]

Is there benefit to continually voting no kill knowing we have a semi-guaranteed-ish scan mechanism?

[Chaqa]

This line of thought came after I noticed two no kills and started wondering why that may be

[bozotheclown]

also, I guess I should vote, nearly forgot about that.

don't want to vote for rd, chaqa, bozo, ghug today. Also not jamie.

heartthrob feels fine in vibe. BK3K a bit behind. Would like to see more though. Sweet was strange, went a little better. A big maybe.

MM's vote for me felt not good, but not enough to vote her back, I think. Darg on the other hand, maybe.

I'd like to see more from worcej, but so far it's probably fine. Damo and Brian need to do more.

Yeah, I don't have any big suspect of mafia. Four of you do a great job blending in, I guess. I don't think it's a team of sweet, darg, damo and Brian. That's too easy.

Hmm ... I guess I pull an Ezio now and ##vote no-kill until damo and Brian posted something of value or until I make my mind up.

Town: Jamie, Mad*, ghug, Chaqa, BK, Bozo, me

Vote pool because they might be scum and have guaranteed they won't be NKd and have played suboptimally if town: Sweet, Kak, heart, HamB, darg, rdr

Others (could be scum but rather vote from above pool): worcej, Just

##vote sweet

* who is this?

I am not going to be available at EOD.

Of the wagons currently leading, these reads posts by Kakarroto and damo seem reasonable enough to me that I prefer not to eliminate either of them today.

Based on what ghug said about reviewing the setup, dargorygel seems somewhat suspicious.

##VOTE dargorygel

[bozotheclown]

Is there benefit to continually voting no kill knowing we have a semi-guaranteed-ish scan mechanism?

I think reducing the player count increases the investigator power.

[bozotheclown]

regarding pair system I suggested, I think I would put them in one of three category (don't know if you agree, just my input):

people who get nk'ed early usually (when they are town) :

5) ghug
13) bozotheclown

mixed (sometimes early targets, sometimes not easy to read) :

2) Jamiet99uk
10) Chaqa
11) Dargorygel
14)rdrivera2005

reading them might be hard :

1) sweetandcool
3) TheMadMonarch
4) worcej
6) damo666
7) Kakarroto
8) heartthrob24909
9) Hamilton Brian
12) BK3K
15)JustAGuyNamedWill


well, this is more my opinion, I guess, and some don't fit too good into a category (like BK3K is just new to me and I don't know much about) (or worcej gets nk'ed often when he is PR) but I think I would pair people from group 1+2 with people from group 3. But yeah, that's just a suggestion and trying a little to visualize what I mean.

I think this makes sense in theory, but I don't think it matters too much who we select for the VTs, and we want it to be clear who the VTs should submit at the beginning of the night. Using the second vote count player works with any arbitrary way to break a tie.

[dargorygel]

##vote darg

Naked voting frowned upon

Mostly re:
- Dings the conversation re: investigator power for not being optimal play despite there being two pretty distinct strategies discussed. Don't love the blanket opposition to both
- Kak vote feels contrived without further context

Did you (or monarch) actually read my posts? I am not opposed. I am unsure,.

[dargorygel]

Dear Vanilla Town,

PLEASE make sure, tonight, before you message the GM, that you UNDERSTAND the town consensus approach for selecting a name.

Do NOT just send in your top scumread. Only the Investigator actually picks the scan target.

The Investigator is Town's only PR so we NEED to work as a team to avoid FUCKING THEM UP.

I don't care if I sound bossy. This is important and I care more about helping Town than I do about your personal opinions of me.

If you think this post is scummy, fuck you, go play with your cuddly toys.

I agree with the sentiment of this post

[Jamiet99uk]

Is there benefit to continually voting no kill knowing we have a semi-guaranteed-ish scan mechanism?

I think reducing the player count increases the investigator power.

I am inclined to agree.

(My own vote on No Kill was a placeholder).

[dargorygel]

I too would like to hear from WilAJustNamedGuy

Why particularly him? Am i missing something?