M81: A Night To Remember [GAME THREAD]

[Chaqa]

I'm aware you weren't voting me. I never said you WERE voting me.

I said you WANT to vote me. You've said so a lot. With flimsy excuses that I find scummy

You're just mad you're getting caught under fire for a weird reason as scum, probably, when you know for a fact if both of us were alive tomorrow you'd be voting me.

[Ezio]

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@Jamiet
@Bunny
am I taking crazy pills here? Is Chaqa's defense for voting me something you expect to see from him as town?

[Chaqa]

OK, so then if you're currently voting me, then you are ABSOLUTELY sure I am scum, and when I flip town, you must therefore not have any other suspicions, since there's ONLY one scum left.

Sheesh. Do you hear yourself

[Chaqa]

Yeah there's only one scum left.

That doesn't mean we only get to have suspicion on one person.

When I voted Hamilton out he wasn't even my strongest scumread. But I thought he was a high information kill and it was also a self preservation move that also protected Vecna.

I don't play the game by scum hunting. I play the game by keeping my townreads alive and killing everyone else.

[Ezio]

OK, so then if you're currently voting me, then you are ABSOLUTELY sure I am scum, and when I flip town, you must therefore not have any other suspicions, since there's ONLY one scum left.

Sheesh. Do you hear yourself

Ofc I'm not absolutely sure you're scum. If I was, I would have been voting you sooner and I wouldn't have flipped off.

I'm just never going to vote somebody out because I'm worried that person might vote me later when I'm town. I will vote the person that I think is most likely scum.

[Ezio]

Yeah there's only one scum left.

That doesn't mean we only get to have suspicion on one person.

When I voted Hamilton out he wasn't even my strongest scumread. But I thought he was a high information kill and it was also a self preservation move that also protected Vecna.

I don't play the game by scum hunting. I play the game by keeping my townreads alive and killing everyone else.

What? Your HB case is a little weird there. You were the first person onto HB. It was D1. What did you mean it was a "high information Kill"? There was only one vote onto HB before then and it was BB, who had already switched off by the time you started the wagon again.

[Chaqa]

Yeah there's only one scum left.

That doesn't mean we only get to have suspicion on one person.

When I voted Hamilton out he wasn't even my strongest scumread. But I thought he was a high information kill and it was also a self preservation move that also protected Vecna.

I don't play the game by scum hunting. I play the game by keeping my townreads alive and killing everyone else.

What? Your HB case is a little weird there. You were the first person onto HB. It was D1. What did you mean it was a "high information Kill"? There was only one vote onto HB before then and it was BB, who had already switched off by the time you started the wagon again.

Go read why I voted HB. It was to test brain

[Chaqa]

Basically I believe brain makes good cases but has trouble sticking with them.

I figured brains HB case was solid so if I push it and he flipped scum, it cleared brain.

[Chaqa]

##Vote worcej
##end

at least this way I can go yell at the ghosts

[Jamiet99uk]

For me, it's purely pragmatic. I don't particularly scum read you, but you *could* be scum, whereas I cannot, and if we vote out worcej today, you'll vote for me tomorrow, which is not a good kill.

How do you figure that?

Basic logic of his scumreads and his posting.

No, you doofus, why are you sure you'll be tomorrow's vote, other than due to shitty smooth brained posts like the one above?

[Jamiet99uk]

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@Jamiet
@Bunny
am I taking crazy pills here? Is Chaqa's defense for voting me something you expect to see from him as town?

Chaqa is currently behaving like an idiot.

This is NAI for Chaqa.

[Ezio]

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@Jamiet
@Bunny
am I taking crazy pills here? Is Chaqa's defense for voting me something you expect to see from him as town?

Chaqa is currently behaving like an idiot.

This is NAI for Chaqa.

Ok. Whatever. If Chaqa does this *normally* I'll go back to ##vote Worcej.

At this point he's gonna feel like a genius b/c it's gonna take a really strong case to get me to vote RDR over him tomorrow lol.

[BunnyGo]

Since a bunch of you like math, I'm gonna make a probability argument about me bussing my teammate so hard.

Yes, it is within my range to bus my teammate like that. As a result, we can't reduce the probability of me being scum to 0%. We can say that it's still significantly less likely to come from my scum game than my town game.

Worth noting: I have never survived to the end as scum in any of the main games on Webdip. I am the absolute *worst* deep threat and I understand that. I *always* get hard scumread and eventually caught. If I was to do a bussing scheme with my teammates, I would be the one falling on the sword to clear my teammates, not the other way around.

Talk to me about cases! Assume I have the memory of a bunny!

Idk man. Here are my cases:
Worcej: He's managed to avoid voting scum so far. Kinda impressive considering everyone else in the game managed to get onto either HB or Damo.

Chaqa: read the post he made defending his vote on me like wtf.

Ok. Those are impressively su**tastic cases.

Tell me about your town reads and reasons. I hung better by POE anyways

[Chaqa]

How do you figure that?

Basic logic of his scumreads and his posting.

No, you doofus, why are you sure you'll be tomorrow's vote, other than due to shitty smooth brained posts like the one above?

The fact that despite killing scum on D1 I've been suspected all game?

[Chaqa]

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@Jamiet
@Bunny
am I taking crazy pills here? Is Chaqa's defense for voting me something you expect to see from him as town?

Chaqa is currently behaving like an idiot.

This is NAI for Chaqa.

Ok. Whatever. If Chaqa does this *normally* I'll go back to ##vote Worcej.

At this point he's gonna feel like a genius b/c it's gonna take a really strong case to get me to vote RDR over him tomorrow lol.

##Vote Ezio

See?

[Chaqa]

"you're going to do this thing"
"no i won't! you're scummy! but now I AM going to do the thing"

[BunnyGo]

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@Jamiet
@Bunny
am I taking crazy pills here? Is Chaqa's defense for voting me something you expect to see from him as town?

Yeah…chaqa be crazy. I don’t particularly understand him as any alignment. And I’ve been on scum team with him where I think no scum were caught (or very few).

[BunnyGo]

Yeah there's only one scum left.

That doesn't mean we only get to have suspicion on one person.

When I voted Hamilton out he wasn't even my strongest scumread. But I thought he was a high information kill and it was also a self preservation move that also protected Vecna.

I don't play the game by scum hunting. I play the game by keeping my townreads alive and killing everyone else.

What? Your HB case is a little weird there. You were the first person onto HB. It was D1. What did you mean it was a "high information Kill"? There was only one vote onto HB before then and it was BB, who had already switched off by the time you started the wagon again.

Go read why I voted HB. It was to test brain

Reference please. On phone.

Actually I’m putting everyone on notice: I’m going traveling with no computer starting Saturday (and traveling much of Friday). Also will be international and with family. Sooooooo….let’s get scum today, yeah? This is why I originally didn’t join. But if we don’t, making things easy to follow will be nice.

[Ezio]

Ok one extra thing that I can't let go:

##vote Chaqa has said his strategy is to "townread some people and kill the rest".

After Damo flipped, I was strongly one of his townreads.


"Took some time, looked at the votes, I think I'm still pretty sure ghug is town.

Sweet looks good too.

I think Ezio and RHK also look good for the D2 Damo push.

Worcej avoided voting Damo D2.

I think my new PoE is:
worcej
Rivera
Jamie
brain

IDk order but worcej is definitely first"
"
↑Ezio: "@jamet
@Chaqa are y'all townreading me for that damo wagon yet?"
Well if I follow normal webdip logic you must be the final scum!
"

"↑brainbomb: "ghug could you provide a list of your townreads with explanations for why they are town

chaqa same request"
DemonRHK: Originally because of viewtopic.php?p=352246#p352246 (this post), but he was also pretty instrumental in voting our Damo.

Ezio: His role in pushing Damo.

Jamiet99uk: Decisive votes on scum

sweetandcool: Decisive votes on scum
------------------- (line of relative sureness)
brain: seems towny
rdrivera2005: Vibes and voting HB
"

"Vote me out, vote ghug out, whatever

Don’t vote out the obv towns like sweet, demon, and ezio
"

All of these are quotes from Chaqa.

What changed between last night and now, that moved his read from his literal second strongest townread "obv town" to
"For me, it's purely pragmatic. I don't particularly scum read you, but you *could* be scum, whereas I cannot, and if we vote out worcej today, you'll vote for me tomorrow, which is not a good kill.
"
"I don't particularly scumread you".

I would have expected him to stick to his line of "no, we're not killing Ezio today. We're going after Worcej instead" like he's posted above.

[BunnyGo]

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@Jamiet
@Bunny
am I taking crazy pills here? Is Chaqa's defense for voting me something you expect to see from him as town?

Chaqa is currently behaving like an idiot.

This is NAI for Chaqa.

Ok. Whatever. If Chaqa does this *normally* I'll go back to ##vote Worcej.

At this point he's gonna feel like a genius b/c it's gonna take a really strong case to get me to vote RDR over him tomorrow lol.

It’s why chaqa dies at kilo. Who can trust him?