Finished: 03 AM Mon 17 Sep 12 UTC
Europe Totalwar rmk
1 day /phase
Pot: 70 D - Autumn, 1908, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
20 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1901: If russia and/or england don't show up, should we vote cancel?
20 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1901: Can we remove them from the game, then vote to pause, and see if somebody can come and fill the spots?
20 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1901: If they don't show up, that is.
20 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1901: I don't think that we can do anything like that. I say we give them till the end of this turn to show up, if not, we cancel and try again.
23 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1902: This is less-fun with Russia not actually playing :(
23 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1902: no fun without russia.
24 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1902: I'm surprised he gave up. I thought he had an interesting position.
24 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1902: me too..
24 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1902: i guess i was too much of a bully.
24 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1902: I would've worked with him if he had come to me. I had a few plans that would've worked had he come back.
24 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1902: The happiest opening for Italy ever! A trusting Austrian neighbor!!! Argh! Why do the good times have to be over so soon... Should we cancel and attempt to start a new game?
24 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1902: I think we sould
24 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1902: I'd rather not cancel, but it's up to you guys.
24 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1902: It seems a little unfair for England and France, was my thought.
24 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1902: I mean, I have no complaint with my positioning. I'm sick of people not participating--Russia wasn't even doing poorly! Just tell me what majority says and I'll do it.
24 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1902: Me neither, and I think it was turning into a very intriguing game. I agree 100% on the participation issue, especially after people have invested a lot of diplomatic effort.
24 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1902: Well, here's my argument in favour of not cancelling: 1). it's a small pot game, the points aren't a big enough deal to warrant cancelling over. 2). I don't think russia's thrown the game too far off balance. Sure, he's made it easier for the people attacking him, but just the same, with three people coming after his lands, he wasn't going to last much longer anyhow, and the competition within his lands is still fierce.. 3). we don't know that he's leaving for certain just yet. He missed a turn. that could mean anything. 4). if every game that had a missed turn in it was cancelled, no game on this site would ever be completed.
24 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1902: Sorry guys. I haven't played this for a few years and it just slipped my mind. Looks like im totally screwed now anyway, so only myself to blame. But I'm still happy to make orders and play on for as long as I can!
24 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1902: No worries Madre Orso Russo! Welcome back, we're glad to have you.
26 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1903: I lost...
no builds
27 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1903: And you had four! Bad luck, sorry dude.
27 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1903: You'll probably only lose two, though. maybe 3.
27 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1903: Don't count yourself out yet!
28 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1903: I've never played Diplomacy on this site before. Are most games this jilted/accelerated? When people miss orders (movement or builds) it immediately compresses the time in which certain areas of the map would play out, ruins whatever diplomatic inroads were being made, and really makes some bad situations much worse in a very short time for a couple of players, while making good situations a lot better in just as short a time for other players. It's only 1903 and so many choices have been removed.
28 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1903: I agree dear Italy.
its rare that no one gives up or misses a turn.
I am sorry i did it.
28 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1903: And I certainly do not mean to imply blame or anything like that, and moreover do not mean anybody should feel bad. Stuff happens. I just wonder if it isn't a result of this particular online interface, and if that is the case, whether it's a place I'd like to play again in the future? Have most of you been playing a long time on here?
28 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1903: I've only been playing a couple months and was very pleased with my first five or so games--no missed moves whatsoever. Lately, though, I've had a couple games with more missing moves/someone not even starting the game. Usually it's minor or something is going on, but that's sort of part of playing Diplomacy online. For the most part, I've really enjoyed playing, so I'll keep doing so. I'd suggest you give a few more games a try and then decide.
01 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1904: Hi everybody! As the player controlling Austria has decided to turn to belittlement and antagonistic personal messages in response to my moves on the game board, I've decided to leave the game. This is exactly the type of online atmosphere I was hoping might not pervade Diplomacy at this site.

I'm writing a public message to apologize for creating a vacuum and upsetting the current state of the board, but there's no reason people can't communicate in a conscientious manner, and I won't waste a second of my time trying to enjoy a game under those conditions.

Thanks very much to Russia, Germany, France, Turkey, and England for being good sports. I wish you the very best. Ciao bellos!
01 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1904: So thin-skinned. You're playing a game of betrayal and wits, but you can't handle a little bit of mockery? a little bit of anger? You have no business playing diplomacy if you can't handle an insult or two.
01 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1904: Dear Italy, I am sorry I didn't impersonate my country as you did.
Normally i do, but I am on my exams period (I study engineering) and personally I dislike England.
Don't leave the game and try playing another webdiplomacy game.
I have never been victim of antagonistic and personal messages by anyone in this site and never had heard of it before now.
Everybody here seems to be like you dear Italy, a person that loves diplomacy and is polite.
Your first experience isn't a good one we had leavers I missed a turn and you had other problems.
Try another game!
I am sorry for my bad English, I study English on my own as i am Brazilian.
01 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1904: I would like to declare that the free people of Scotland finally overcome English tyranny and is now free and the ruler of all former English territory.
I am new Emperor of the Scotch, drinker of whiskey and sailor of the seas.
01 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1904: I feel that I should explain myself. Diplomacy is a humanistic game. Human emotions are going to come into play. I did not take the stab well, but I also didn't say anything particularly nasty (in my opinion), definitely not enough to warrant leaving a game over. I maintain that I didn't do anything wrong, but I do apologise for causing offence. That was not my intention. My intention was venting rage, which is, by no means right or correct.
01 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 1904: My apologies to all. I see it is possible that I simply mute a player if I feel I do not want to receive their communications, and I can do this instead of leaving a game. I am perhaps overly sensitive, that is true, though I appreciate Austria's apology/explanation nonetheless. I look forward to finishing the game, wherever it goes.
07 Sep 12 UTC Spring, 1906: I'm very confused. Could somebody please tell me why my army in Venice did not take Trieste? How was my support from F(Adr) broken? Thanks!
07 Sep 12 UTC Spring, 1906: Hmm... Ok, i see the support was not cut, but how did the order of events shake out such that I did not have enough to take the territory? This is just for my own edification/future knowledge. Clearly I miscalculated something very badly?
07 Sep 12 UTC Spring, 1906: And scratch the last bit, too... support WAS cut, I see from the larger map. I did not understand that a dislodged unit makes it's move/resolves that affect simultaneously. Ok, I'm learning! Sorry for all the extra chatter to those of you who think I'm completely nuts by now... ciao!

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nniewold (464 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 12 D
9 supply-centers, 9 units
Luigi (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 12 D
7 supply-centers, 6 units
Utom (910 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 12 D
5 supply-centers, 6 units
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 12 D
5 supply-centers, 5 units
Onar (131 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 12 D
5 supply-centers, 4 units
Salazar (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 12 D
3 supply-centers, 3 units
Submariner (111 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
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