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21 Jan 24 UTC	Spring, 4: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
15 Feb 24 UTC	Very well played Carthage!
15 Feb 24 UTC	@Greece - just wondering (for my own future reference) - what made you decide to focus your attention on preventing my expansion but keep destroying units on your West?
15 Feb 24 UTC	I don't think it necessarily ensured Carthage won the game (Carthage definitely played well) but it certainly slowed me down!
15 Feb 24 UTC	Well played Carthage. Very clever in withholding your draw vote when it got down to the 3 of us and I was still leading... making your ally, Egypt, assume that I was the one holding up the draw & going for the solo instead of you. @Egypt - the answer to your question and the way Carthage won the game are probably one & the same: He took advantage of the inherent lack of communication in gunboat. At the moment that Persia/Rome were eliminated, I put in my draw vote (despite leading with something like 13 SCs) because I had a terrible defensive position against both of you guys and knew that I'd never get to 18 SCs. I figured I would be the last one to enter a draw vote... boy was I surprised & annoyed when I was proven wrong lol. So I had 2 choices to try to alert you (Egypt) that it was Carthage and not I that was refusing to draw and was the solo threat. 1. I could've backed away from you and given up my 6-7 of SCs in Asia Minor/Middle East. 2. I could back away from my borders with Carthage to attempt to send the message that I'd throw the game if Egypt didn't defend against Carthage and stop attacking me. I clearly made the wrong decision and apologize for that. After 1000+ mostly gunboat games, the various signals come naturally to me, but that's not universally true. I calculated that I could delay Carthage for about 5 years (but not indefinitely) from breaking through. I was hoping that Egypt would understand by then that since he was slowly growing while I was shrinking, the writing was on the wall. But it was only in the 6th or 7th year that Egypt turned west; and since you both attacked each other at the same time, it was too late to form the stalemate lines by then.
15 Feb 24 UTC	Very interesting analysis, thanks for sharing that Greece
15 Feb 24 UTC	Not sure if you noticed but there was one year I had 2 builds and decided to withhold one till I had more and had a better position against Carthage - I shouldn’t have withheld and gone up against him earlier on before it was too late
15 Feb 24 UTC	Indeed pretty much the order you’re talking about - maybe 2 years before Carthage and I turned on each other at the same time, I’d had that opportunity. That would have been a better time (but for all I know thrown the game to you @Greevce!)
15 Feb 24 UTC	Fun one for sure
15 Feb 24 UTC	Yup, agreed. If I were playing as Egypt in this game, I would've assumed the exact same thing as you did - "since Greece was (at the time) leading the game, he must be the one refusing to draw and trying to solo."
15 Feb 24 UTC	Yup I definitely had my draw vote in for a long time, pretty much solidly until I managed to make some gains against you and started feeling more confident...
16 Feb 24 UTC	Great game everyone! Greece you were in a tough spot having secured a strong early lead but no mid-game allies. Egypt - I had closely considered pushing off a draw but as things developed, the solo became visible and I decided to go for it
16 Feb 24 UTC	pushing for* a draw