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Finished: 01 AM Tue 15 Nov 11 UTC
Private Big Mouth
1 day /phase
Pot: 707 D - Autumn, 1908, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
03 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1906: You are the last eligible person to talk about sportsmanship.
1. You threatened to not uncancel a game to force a draw or cancel.
2. You are now trying to get included in a draw by .... whining??
Obviously you are hellalt.
03 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1906: Lol. I am not hellalt. And, I'm surprised you would be so rude to the person who set up this invitational game - a game that you joined voluntarily to.
03 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1906: I don't see myself as whining - I am putting forward my opinion, just because it clashes with yours does not mean it is whining.

Look, this whole game has been pathetic. If you want to take me out, I can't stop you. Just get on with it either way. All we have done in this game is discuss the patheticness of this game.
03 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1906: Yes Italy but somehow you managed to make this EVEN MORE pathetic...
03 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1906: Ok.
03 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1906: For the record I don't really believe the game should be cancelled due to the CD.
When a CD happens the cancellation of the game has to happen immediately after it not years later.
I'm voting to cancel the game only because I'm bored of it.
03 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1906: I'm going away for the weekend.
Could we have a 2 day pause pls?
03 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1906: /pause
03 Nov 11 UTC Spring, 1906: I ll vote last, when I m about to leave.
03 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1906: italy please pause, i will be away this weekend as well
03 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1906: I want to - because despite what Russia and Turkey say, I am a player who places much importance on class and sportsmanship. But the complete lack of sportsmanship and class that Russia and Turkey have shown me makes me question why I should bother.
04 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1906: thanks for the pause Italy.
04 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1906: I don't understand you, Turkey.
04 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1906: I don't understand myself.
04 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1906: thank you all.
pls vote unpause so that I be the last to enter unpause when I return after roughly 48 hrs.
04 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1906: Unpause voted.
06 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1906: thanks !
08 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: that wasn't really clever France...
You think you can solo with just 11scs??
I'm voting draw now (aus and ita included).
Oh and this is the end of our diplomatic relationships so don't bother msging me.
08 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: you ll get ven rom kie (14 scs) and that's the end of the journey.
08 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: copying the private msg France sent me:
"i'm not going for a solo, well ok maybe i might try that (lol) but my real intention is forcing you to do a 3 way & eliminate russia with austria and italy.
i knew you and russia would be too powerful if you got the sc's this turn, and with england and austria's offers to help eliminate russia , i thought it would be the right choice to make
so this game has taken a sharp turn now. you have a choice to make as well. either join the 3 way and help eliminate russia or watch us do it for you, and risk me going solo anyway"
08 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: wow what an ass, lol
08 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: England, even if the crazy French plans could work (eliminate Russia????) next thing you know he would try to convince both of us to attack one another to supposedly go for a 2 way so that he in fact grabs a solo.
You are a terrorist France!
I suggest everyone enters draw votes now.
08 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: unless of course England you want to be remembered as the amateurish puppet that helped France get a solo...
08 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: don't mess with the anglo-french-italiano-austrian alliance, we will kick your butt back to the stone-age!!
08 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: yes master of puppets.
08 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: 2ways are a utopia, but 3ways are not - as long as the other two players are big enough to kick back a solo-move, I am trusting France. Grab what you can, or hold France back while I take out russia, either is fine by me, at least you are getting a split of the pot.
08 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: How exactly do you think you can kill Russia without my help?
Illusions...
This will be fun.
08 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: and what exactly do you have against me England? It was France who betrayed you once already in this game and if it wasn't for my NMR because of the late pause he would had killed you already
08 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: It is quite obvious that he is going for the solo and not for any three way draw and that can be seen by looking at the position he is creating for himself. One in which he has already two easy to grab SCs behind so that you don't realize how big he is. If he takes over the Balkans he has enough for the solo
08 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: you are the weakest player now russia, albeit your nmr cost you so did your weak tactical moves. this game is going towards a legitimate ending, and if this includes italy's and austria's ruin, it should includes yours as well
08 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: You are just creating a 5 way draw situation for yourselves, as there is an easy stalemate line to be had unless you and england start killing each other. Austria will see that as well and join us, especially when he realize that both me and Turkey said we would draw as soon as Italy was out and include Austria while you and England were the ones pushing for his elimination.
08 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: Russia, I think that's really unfair that you demand me out. I paused both when you wanted to and when Turkey wanted to.
08 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: wow russia, first france is going for a solo, and now its just going to be a 5 way draw... which one is it? what else does the cyrstal ball say? is my date this weekend going to be a bomb or will we hit it off?
08 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: You know I was enjoying working with you earlier, I wanted you out because you did not want to unpause just cause you were losing which was very childish, but other than that I had no hard feelings.
08 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: And England if you haven't realized yet, the Moscow-Warsaw stalemate line is very easy to defend from you, so you can realistically take Berlin which you can have for all I care, but then you will have a very hard time advancing while France will easily take the solo. So it just does not make sense to risk a France solo just to eliminate me beause I did not want you to have Norway in the first year...
08 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: Hey russia your smoooth lines aren't going to save you here, you don't deserve to be part of a draw and the map will speak for that purpose eventually
08 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: I have seen one country nations deserving a draw, so who are you to say who deserves one and who does not? And to say that my position is worthy of a draw or not? Talk about cocky assholes...
08 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: Russia: "And to say that my position is worthy of a draw or not? Talk about cocky assholes..."

You only a few hours ago demanded that I was not a worthy part of a draw. Again, you are a complete hypocrite.
08 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: What is the point of having principles if you can't stand up to them yourself?
08 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: lets get things straight.
1. Russia deserves the draw. besides that he is necessary so that France wont solo
2. Italy and Austria: No, You DONT deserve the draw. Your play sucked during the entire game. Now you are just lucky that France is so fucking stupid and we need you so that he doesn't solo.
3. France: a. you are a fucking prick due to not granting my pause request b. tactically strategically and diplomatically you are a mediocre player. thanks to you this game will end in a 6 way draw
4. England: You retard, give your head a good shake and open your fucking eyes. Unless you build fleets to protect your sorry ass against France he is going to be in London for some tea with your whore mother in no time. So stop being so gay and fight him.
I guess you don't need me to tell you who I am now, DO YOU?
:-)
09 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: err when did i not give u ur fking pause request? huh bitch? making up false excuses isn't going to delay your ass beating ya know
09 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: ah sorry I confused it with another game where I play a 13sc Turkey...
09 Nov 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: "L'angleterre est une nation de boutiquiers."
13 Nov 11 UTC How about that 4'way draw now?
13 Nov 11 UTC yep!
13 Nov 11 UTC I also prefer drawing now...
13 Nov 11 UTC France?
13 Nov 11 UTC crazy game...let's draw
13 Nov 11 UTC nice playing with you guys and especially nice working with you guak!
13 Nov 11 UTC this outcome is better than I hoped after 1902...

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France
Drawn. Bet: 101 D, won: 177 D
10 supply-centers, 11 units
Turkey
hellalt (113 D)
Drawn. Bet: 101 D, won: 177 D
9 supply-centers, 6 units
England
Per Olander (1651 D (B))
Drawn. Bet: 101 D, won: 177 D
8 supply-centers, 8 units
Russia
guak (3381 D)
Drawn. Bet: 101 D, won: 177 D
7 supply-centers, 5 units
Italy
Sargmacher (0 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 101 D
Germany
Riphen (198 D)
Defeated. Bet: 101 D
Austria
Perry6006 (5409 D)
Defeated. Bet: 101 D
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