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Finished: 11 AM Wed 19 Nov 08 UTC
Uncle Pukey Hut Himself
1 day, 6 hours /phase
Pot: 148 D - Autumn, 1912, Finished
Classic, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by jk1974 (100D)
01 Nov 08 UTC Spring, 1901: so everyone knows its supposed to be hurt himself
16 Nov 08 UTC Autumn, 1904: GameMaster: Tank7 has taken over England.
20 Nov 08 UTC Spring, 1906: GameMaster: DiplomatAI23 has taken over Turkey.
21 Nov 08 UTC Autumn, 1906: /draw
21 Nov 08 UTC Autumn, 1906: GameMaster: Anshikuu has voted for a draw.
Voted: Anshikuu Remaining: NewNHot,jk1974,DiplomatAI23,_Beau_.
21 Nov 08 UTC Autumn, 1906: I feel that there is little point in continuing this game. Germany is expanding quickly, but even he should know that it is very tiring to be trying to attack over and over again. I have grown weary of defending myself. It is nearly impossible to penetrate my defenses now, if I continue to hold. Please express your views on this, and if you decline an offer for peace, I will stop defending and begin attacking.
21 Nov 08 UTC Autumn, 1906: draw
21 Nov 08 UTC Autumn, 1906: I think it's a bit to early for a draw. Your defenses are strong, but there is no real stalemate (yet).
23 Nov 08 UTC Autumn, 1906: So be it. We will wage war to the last man.
24 Nov 08 UTC Autumn, 1907: There are too many red Xs on the map. Are you sure this cannot be considered a stalemate?
24 Nov 08 UTC Autumn, 1907: stop chit-chatting and see what it's happening in the game...i have 14 units, italy and you 15 ...and russia ???? we just have to coordinate our attacks
24 Nov 08 UTC Autumn, 1907: I'm afraid that no matter how you coordinate your attacks, it will not be possible to gain much more ground.
25 Nov 08 UTC Autumn, 1907: We now have a stalemate
25 Nov 08 UTC Autumn, 1907: I agree with Italy. Please either fight with each other or call a draw, or else we will get nowhere.
26 Nov 08 UTC Autumn, 1907: we'll see...give us a couple of more turns :)
26 Nov 08 UTC Spring, 1908: Portugal or N Africa hit Mid atlantic every time, breaking support for any attacks W Med supports Spain, Spain supports Mar, and Pie and Ven support Tyrolia. Unstoppable. Bulgaria, Con, Black Sea Support Rumania, Triest supports Budapest, unstoppable.
STALEMATE. Unless you are going to attack Russia? Then why did you build an army in Kiel and not Berlin??
26 Nov 08 UTC Spring, 1908: Correction Con is not needed to defend Rumania
27 Nov 08 UTC Spring, 1908: Russia, you have made your point clear in saying that it is not a stalemate. I still have some room for some expansion into your territory.
27 Nov 08 UTC Spring, 1908: Also, after Germany discovers that you are of no use to him as an ally once I've invaded, I'm sure he'll find a way to deal with you too. Seeing as you won't be able to defend yourself, he'd have to find a way to defend you himself, if you know what I mean. I must thank you for declining an offer for a draw; I had not realize that I could still destroy you.
27 Nov 08 UTC Spring, 1908: stalemate ???? i don't really think so !!!
27 Nov 08 UTC Spring, 1908: it seems like i just broke your "unstoppable" defence ! you lost a SC and a unit ... and much more i think ;)
28 Nov 08 UTC Spring, 1908: I called the game a stalemate when you had already broken through the lines and could not advance any further, not during the invasion. I have even gained more ground this turn, so I think that it would be reasonable to consider it a stalemate. Why not call it a draw? Also, when I refer to "I had not realized that I could still destroy you", I was referring to Russia. Currently, I would see it that we are at a time of finish. I still wonder why you do not attack Russia and choose to attack me instead; Russia is weaker by so much, if you attacked him, I would support you (we've been at war since the beginning), and you probably would win the game much faster. Even now, Warsaw has been left wide open for you to take, but you did not take it, giving you another build and weakening Russia on the way. I also find it strange why you have persisted in attacking me. Please explain your reasons. I can understand if you had thought that I was at a weak point, but by then, you should have at least tried to mend relations with me, even if you still occupied part of my territory.

Also, you have nearly won the game. Calling a draw would not be much worse than winning the game, because, after all, it is a points-per-supply-center game. I have offered to form a pact with you to crush Russia, which at the time, would have been an easy task, but you ignored it. You will now feel a little pain from that; I am going to take Sevastopol very soon. I hope you do understand when I decide not to share the territory with you. Italy may be a little lacking in planning his defense, but even just taking Southern Europe would not be enough. Why not attack Russia too? Believe me, I will reach him before you do, if you ever choose to. It is time to put aside our differences, and allow the destruction of Russia to take place.
28 Nov 08 UTC Spring, 1908: because i don't usually backstabb friends .... he helped me a lot during the game, and we can win the game
28 Nov 08 UTC Autumn, 1908: I cannot deny that you don't usually backstab friends; you've demonstrated it in this game. Even so, this game is not about the morality of stabbing others; in fact, it is based entirely on that. The reason you attack others is not because they stab you or is likely to; that only contributes to your decision. The reason you attack others is working towards your victory. The point of any game is to win. If you don't do that, then there is virtually no point in playing. If you want to win, you would have invaded Russia already. Why not take the opportunity? If you do not want to, you are only being stubborn and wasting time. It would be wiser to attack Russia; believe me, it would be the fastest route to your victory, rather than spending all your time on attacking me.
29 Nov 08 UTC Autumn, 1908: right now i'm not attacking you ! russia missed many movs to enter into your territory and now it's hard...i'm attacking italy and remember that i also play for fun, not only to win... taking russia was very easy , but winning against a stronger nation is more exciting :)
29 Nov 08 UTC Autumn, 1908: anyWAY i'm taking 2 or 3 more turns to win the game
01 Dec 08 UTC Spring, 1909: If moving into Galicia isn't attacking me, I don't know what is.
01 Dec 08 UTC Spring, 1909: If you truly do not wish to attack me, withdraw from Vienna. I think that you have proven that you are acting in a hostile manner. I had told you that you should have attacked them faster; you will learn that it is not wise to doubt my logic.
04 Dec 08 UTC Autumn, 1909: I see that you have decided to take Russia. Too late.
05 Dec 08 UTC Autumn, 1909: too late ? uhmmmm...i guess it's too late for you ! ;)

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Germany
jk1974 (100D)
Won. Bet: 20D, won: 703D
19 supply-centers, 17 units
Russia
_Beau_ (212D)
Survived. Bet: 20D, won: 222D
6 supply-centers, 5 units
Italy
NewNHot (100D)
Survived. Bet: 20D, won: 185D
5 supply-centers, 6 units
Austria
Anshikuu (100D)
Survived. Bet: 20D, won: 148D
4 supply-centers, 4 units
France
Dan the Man (100D)
Defeated. Bet: 20D
Turkey
DiplomatAI23 (100D)
Defeated. Bet: 4D
England
Tank7 (100D)
Defeated. Bet: 4D
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