Finished: 03 AM Fri 01 Apr 11 UTC
Private 2011 Masters R1G4
1 day, 12 hours /phase
Pot: 35 D - Spring, 1915, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
15 Feb 11 UTC Spring, 1905: Another Italian NMR?
15 Feb 11 UTC Spring, 1905: not on my watch :)
17 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1905: Sorry everyone - my first ever NMR - it won't happen again.
17 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1905: I'll see what happens this time: Another Turkish NMR?
19 Feb 11 UTC Spring, 1906: you sure it can't happen again? cause that would be super convenient ;)
19 Feb 11 UTC Spring, 1906: Well, except for Russia and Germany.
19 Feb 11 UTC Spring, 1906: yup, I was speaking of russia, but turkey nmring would also help
20 Feb 11 UTC Spring, 1906: No it really won't happen again
22 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1906: For an incompetent or inexperienced player, England's move to Denmark might look like a stab. There is not an iota of doubt in my mind that England told France the plan to attack Denmark with Sweden support, and that's why France attacked North Sea with Belgium support to counter it.

If France really wanted North Sea, Mid Atlantic Ocean fleet would have moved to English channel to cover it, since France already have more than enough fleets in the south if he was planning on defending Ionian sea like he wants Italy to believe.
22 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1906: Oh, you mean this could also have been titled "Note to self"?
23 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1906: so am I the "incompetent or inexperienced player" in this hypothetical?
23 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1906: England, wise up.

Unless France agrees to give Holland, Kiel and Denmark to England, the game will be a French solo.
23 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1906: nah, I'm just kidding. England and Italy, you're doing great. France is your best friend. haha
23 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1906: dude, honestly germany, chill out. If you have an option for me that guarantees security from the 9 units of juggernaut aimed at me, and the french fleets, please do be my guest and share.
23 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1906: there's really no reason to be a jerk when the whole board didn't end up as you so pleased.
23 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1906: I think that I am the inexperienced or Incompetent player, and after my NMR here I am not inclined to disagree. The reality is that England was very annoyed when I moved to Nwy and, not surprisingly, doesn't trust me.

Germany is right about one thing. France is already past the stalemate line in the south and the center and the solo is looking likely. England is our only hope and we will just have to see whether past animosities can be put aside to stop someone winning.
23 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1906: so, you know what all of you need to do.
Please me.
:-)
23 Feb 11 UTC Spring, 1907: My fleet Sweden will move how you want it to.
28 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: I am not going to say I told you so, Italy. But frankly, I am amused by the fact that I have more supply centres than you do at this stage of the game.
28 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: Not that that matters anyway since we both probably won't survive or even be part of a draw since France has moved beyond the stalemate lines.
28 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: Russia and Turkey, 5-way draw or France wins. Your choice.
03 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1908: Germany, you must be great at making friends ;)
03 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: :P
03 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: ahah +1 for that response.
07 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1909: good game everyone haha
08 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1909: omg france you just created a 4 way draw.
08 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1909: Or lost the game (unless that's what you meant).

I admit it - greed got the better of me.
08 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1909: We are men of action. Lies do not become us.
08 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1909: Or women.
09 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1909: Don't blame me, it's a quote.
15 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1911: Sooo, what now? You've got an awful lot of boats.
15 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1911: That was for England, if you hadn't realized.
15 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1911: I'm just ensuring my place in the final draw.
If I wanted to attack you, I would have built armies.
17 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1911: (TrustMe): I am replacing the player playing Italy in the tournament. Please send me an email if you need someone for this game, otherwise I will just let Italy remain in CD here. webdipmasters@gmail.com. Thanks.
17 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1911: I don't think a replacement is needed. Italy is dead anyway.
17 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1911: While I understand why Russia attacked me, I don't get why did Russia stab Turkey. A 4 way draw was your best outcome.
17 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1911: I can actually see a rationale for Russia's stab, but I think the logic is flawed and France will win. But I might be wrong.
17 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1911: I don't. Russia doesn't have his home Supply Centres so he can't build. France is the one to gain most not Russia.
Btw my army move to Sev was intended to bounce Russia's fleet, so you can keep the SC against France.
17 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1911: Anyway I think I have survived longer than I had expected against English, French, Italian and Russian offensive. So, goodbye, good game and good luck all.
17 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1911: I attacked Turkey because it was clear that once Turkey got his builds, I would be squeezed out of the draw. I am going to push you out of Sev because I want to be to build there, but you can go to Rum. I'm hoping you will continue to use your army to help us.
18 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1911: No need for so much talk.
Things are simple.
Russia, if you keep on attacking Turkey, Turkey will disband units that will help France solo, so that he remains alive.
So attacking Turkey means that you in fact help France to solo.
I guess your goal is not to help France solo but a 4 way draw?
Or am I wrong.
Don't screw up the game.
I didn't give the fight north against France just to see you screw the game.
18 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1911: In a nutshell, NOONE is threatening your place in the final draw.
But trying to take out Turkey YOU are threatening the DRAW itself.
29 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1914: Haha, Russia does seem to be threatening the draw, indeed! :-)
29 Mar 11 UTC I'm ordering all holds. It's up to you two what happens.
29 Mar 11 UTC my vote draw is in too.
Russia you can only take stp and that's it.
France, I will retreat from mao immediately. pls move some fleets towards ion to make sure russia won't go for gains there.
gas moves to bur and bre moves back to england.
no need for private talks at this point.
lets all go public!
30 Mar 11 UTC Good game everyone - I agree that I can't get to 18
30 Mar 11 UTC Haha! I was sooo wrong about Germany. :-)
30 Mar 11 UTC yeah gg all :)
thanks
30 Mar 11 UTC Efcharisto!
30 Mar 11 UTC lol

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Russia
martinck1 (4464 D (S))
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 12 D
14 supply-centers, 13 units
England
hellalt (113 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 12 D
11 supply-centers, 11 units
France
gjdip (634 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 12 D
9 supply-centers, 9 units
Italy
P-man (494 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Germany
jc (2766 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Austria
Bilbo (433 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Turkey
pastoralan (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Civil Disorders
P-man (494 D)Italy (Spring, 1911) with 1 centres.
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