Finished: 01 PM Sat 12 Jun 21 UTC
WW1 Diplomacy #2
1 day /phase
Pot: 35 D - Autumn, 1909, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by biggerarmydiplomacy (130 D)
10 May 21 UTC Spring, 1901: Hello everyone
10 May 21 UTC Spring, 1901: Good luck everyone!
11 May 21 UTC Spring, 1901: Good luck
22 May 21 UTC Spring, 1904: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
31 May 21 UTC Spring, 1906: You all going to let France solo?
31 May 21 UTC Spring, 1906: You gonna do anything to stop him?
31 May 21 UTC Spring, 1906: All by myself?
31 May 21 UTC Spring, 1906: You're right. I'll make sure to get right on it with my two units
31 May 21 UTC Spring, 1906: Sarcasm won't help anything
31 May 21 UTC Spring, 1906: I find it helps me feel better all the time
03 Jun 21 UTC Autumn, 1906: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
03 Jun 21 UTC Autumn, 1906: Sorry I have been in hospital
03 Jun 21 UTC Autumn, 1906: No worries, hope you feel better
03 Jun 21 UTC Autumn, 1906: yeah, wish you all the best
05 Jun 21 UTC Autumn, 1906: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
05 Jun 21 UTC Autumn, 1906: Hi, New Itally, plz dont bite me
05 Jun 21 UTC Autumn, 1906: rawr
08 Jun 21 UTC Autumn, 1907: Italy, you pooor fool, you really think you are in a position to get into a draw?
France and I agreed to split the map a long time ago, buddy. The game is rigged and all that is left for you to do is to witness the foregone conclusion materialising.
08 Jun 21 UTC Spring, 1908: Let me dream pal
08 Jun 21 UTC Spring, 1908: besides, you seem to be moving west some good fleets in the Mediterranean, if draw we France was the case, why do you need those?
08 Jun 21 UTC Spring, 1908: It is better to have overkill potential. I wanna make this quick. France only needs one more province, me two.
08 Jun 21 UTC Spring, 1908: It is better to have overkill potential. I wanna make this quick. France only needs one more province, me two.
08 Jun 21 UTC Spring, 1908: It is better to have overkill potential. I wanna make this quick. France only needs one more province, me two.
08 Jun 21 UTC Spring, 1908: So, there is no "agreement". Besides, You need two, yet the only one who can take my two SCs, is you, France is very badly positioned. Even Russia, you are closer
08 Jun 21 UTC Spring, 1908: wow sorry, my webconnection lagged a bit
08 Jun 21 UTC Spring, 1908: what do you mean there is no agreement
08 Jun 21 UTC Spring, 1908: just because we dont trust each other doesnt mean we dont have an agreement
08 Jun 21 UTC Spring, 1908: the most stable agreements in diplomacy are based on a power equilibrium, not trust
08 Jun 21 UTC Spring, 1908: Beg to differ. They might be the most common, but if you can trust someone, your both all but guaranteed a victory
08 Jun 21 UTC Autumn, 1908: So this is the situation now:
-Turkey has enough units to take St Pete. France Doesn't
-Turkey has enough units to take Berlin and/or Munich if France plays wrong
-Turkey Can definitely take Venice and Rome and there is very little France or I can do about it.
-France on the other hand is so badly positioned, he cant take ANY SCs this autumn.
France needs 2 SCs to win (which France can't take this autumn)
Turkey needs 3 SCs to win, which he most definitely will get by destroying me, and taking either Russia or one of France's SCs.
08 Jun 21 UTC Autumn, 1908: If what you Turkey said is right. and this game is about power, not trust. Then this is the best and only moment to Draw. Because you have the power to win solo.
Trust would have given France a chance for next year. But you said it yourself, this is about power
08 Jun 21 UTC Autumn, 1908: I vote for Draw because I appeal to France's reason that if France doesn't Draw now, he will lose.
08 Jun 21 UTC Autumn, 1908: France cant lose. His position is strong enough to defend Munich and Berlin indefinitely. And I cant take St Petersburg with just one unit. So there is no reason for France or Russia to go for a draw this turn if they can just wait for me to knock out Italy, which I will this turn and then get into a 3-way draw. And for France, there really isnt a reason to accept that either, he can just support hold Russia until he has enough forces to take StP for himself and get a 2-way draw.
08 Jun 21 UTC Autumn, 1908: And no, you cant trust people in this game. There may be a couple care-bears amongst them, but in anon, you dont know about the character of any of them. So its better to just build a defensible position, like France has done.
10 Jun 21 UTC You tried to get StP for your 18th sc and a solo victory ... I have to say I'm very disappointed
10 Jun 21 UTC Why?
10 Jun 21 UTC Are you not trying to get the best outcome for yourself aswell?
10 Jun 21 UTC Alright, lets get this over with.
10 Jun 21 UTC I was trying to secure our 17/17 draw that you agreed to
10 Jun 21 UTC Damn, Russia really simping for you tho
10 Jun 21 UTC Oh c'mon
you are the only ones playing, and no one voted draw, of course you are going solo
10 Jun 21 UTC Alright, Ill let you in then this turn
11 Jun 21 UTC Well, you just proved what an unreliable liar you really are
11 Jun 21 UTC yes
11 Jun 21 UTC and I won
11 Jun 21 UTC Very pleased France did not win
11 Jun 21 UTC What a whiney bitch. Good victory Turkey
12 Jun 21 UTC yeah this was very deserved

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Turkey
Won. Bet: 5 D, won: 35 D
18 supply-centers, 17 units
France
Telboy203 (61 D)
Survived. Bet: 5 D
16 supply-centers, 16 units
Russia
Survived. Bet: 5 D
0 supply-centers, 1 units
England
BASantamaria (96 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Italy
Enzzoth (112 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Germany
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Austria
Pterry (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Civil Disorders
The Maxadonian (100 D)Italy (Autumn, 1906) with 3 centres.
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