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Finished: 01 PM Wed 26 Mar 08 UTC
1 day /phase
Pot: 71 D - Autumn, 1909, Finished
Classic, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by Cheleon (1153D)

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23 Mar 08 UTC Autumn, 1903: It's been a fun but quick game. Good luck everyone.
02 Apr 08 UTC Autumn, 1906: Aye, germany and france wanna be the last 2 armies, which is fair enough. Odd though - i'd have so betrayed one of you, since one of you has soooo many SC's open for attack, its quite sad really.

Good luck anyway - or rather, well done germany, you win ^_^
03 Apr 08 UTC Autumn, 1906: Okay..and now you both know 100% what each other is doing, that is just dumb ... not even good allies relay every part of information, i don't mind losing, but its like trying to fight the same person, your both using units against me in perfect co-ordination...its retarded.

why is france handing Germany the game anyway if you are seperate people..did he make u win a game so ur repaying the all bullshit.
04 Apr 08 UTC Autumn, 1906: "your both using units against me in perfect co-ordination...its retarded."
That gets my vote for quote of the week.

A complete transcript of private messages between Austria and France now follows....
04 Apr 08 UTC Autumn, 1906: Someone needs a chill pill... This isn't the end of the world. It's just a computer game. If you get upset about this, you may need a reality check... (maybe not reality check, but it sounded better than "you need a life")
Feckless, shame on you for having good diplomacy skills getting Germany to help you out... ;-]
04 Apr 08 UTC Autumn, 1906: And there speaks somebody whose country was IMMEDIATELY crushed by the alliance.... but who understands something of the nature of the game.
Of course, XiangYu will probably now conclude that reptar_69 is ALSO the same person as Feckless Clod and Cheleon. Whatever....
04 Apr 08 UTC Autumn, 1906: But I'm not. I'm probably not even in the same continent as you.
04 Apr 08 UTC Spring, 1907: i know how this game works, but i've never seen 2 countries or allies work so well with co-ordination on movements, putting so much trust in each other is something i've failed to see, i'm not accusing anyone or anything of cheating, and if i said i did then i apologise. I dont mind it really ^_^ i cant put that kinda trust in people, thats all.

And i have a life and stuff, and i'm only meh because i joined to make it a lil more fun, but germanys being handed the game, regardless if france knows it or not.
04 Apr 08 UTC Spring, 1907: Trust? Try it some time. The worst that can happen is you get your ass kicked. As things stand, I think you're going to get your ass kicked anyway, because you haven't adequately explored the alternatives. You haven't apparently persuaded the German to stab me (touch wood), and you haven't even approached me about stabbing the German.
And yes, I realised from the outset that there was a very good chance that Germany would win the game, which is not my preferred outcome, but in a PPSC game, it's a lot better than getting your ass kicked.
Diplomacy is a complex game. It is named as such for a reason. And there are objectives other than winning.
04 Apr 08 UTC Spring, 1907:
04 Apr 08 UTC Spring, 1907: heh, i'm involved in to many games to get diplomacy right in all of them, its a huge flaw - lack of attention. Still i'll read more about the goals of diplomacy, and probably set myself to play only a few games, and to look into the art of diplomacy accordingly. If you cannot win - then at least profit from a loss which you probably will do. No matter what i do it won't work now, if trust is already established, then what chance have i got to sever it ;)

still, thanks for the links, i havent been playing dip all to long, a few weeks maybe, i'll try and learn more for next time - though then we may all be at an average advantage, since i'm clearly on the losing side now :D
05 Apr 08 UTC Spring, 1907: For future reference, France assisting Germany into the North Sea in 1901 should start alarm bells ringing across the board. It's easy to miss, but if England can't break the attack diplomatically, it's basically screwed, and Russia, particularly, has a serious problem. At that point in the game, Russia was apparently more concerned with working with Austria and Italy to screw Turkey.... all to our advantage. When Germany rolled into Russia, and I wouldn't Russia, Russia went into civil disorder.... Italy too. That would have been a good time for Austria to try talking to me.... at one point, Germany was giving me a hard time over Sweden while I had armies in Munich and Warsaw, unopposed, by prior agreement! It was a tense moment. I might just have been persuaded to leave them there....
05 Apr 08 UTC Spring, 1907: I wouldn't Russia = I wouldn't help Russia
05 Apr 08 UTC Spring, 1907: I could have won from that position, I think.... but not without an ally....