Finished: 12 PM Thu 17 Dec 20 UTC
Private August GR Challenge G1 - NEW
2 days /phase
Pot: 35 D - Spring, 1910, Finished
Classic, Draw-Size Scoring, Hidden draw votes
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
02 Dec 20 UTC Autumn, 1908: Oh hi Mark
02 Dec 20 UTC Autumn, 1908: Everybody betray me...
02 Dec 20 UTC Autumn, 1908: If there were likes for the comments here, Russia would be on top for sure. :)
02 Dec 20 UTC Autumn, 1908: To be fair, he has more time to devote to it...
05 Dec 20 UTC Autumn, 1908: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
05 Dec 20 UTC Autumn, 1908: Need a short pause France? My vote is up just in case.
05 Dec 20 UTC Autumn, 1908: Sorry about that. Busy days. Should be OK, thank you.
09 Dec 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: The 112 pages in the chat archive might be the tops I've seen in a game...
09 Dec 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: I think it's 20 messages a page so over 2000 sent and received is pretty fun for game. You guys going to drag it out to 3000 or are you going to let me get some sleep?
10 Dec 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: First I hear other players are getting more massages than me, and now more messages? That cuts deep
10 Dec 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
10 Dec 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: Well, that's unfortunate.

Could we just ready up and I'll eliminate him?
10 Dec 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: Maybe that’s how he qualified for this game?
10 Dec 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: Haha, maybe. First CD though.
10 Dec 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: Im sorry. I hit ready.
10 Dec 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: Welcome back!
10 Dec 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: Better late than never :-)
11 Dec 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: Good game France
11 Dec 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: Thanks for the game
11 Dec 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: Gg
12 Dec 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: GG France
14 Dec 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: Sorry guys, I'm here and will catch up on press shortly.
15 Dec 20 UTC For what it's worth, my draw vote is up.
15 Dec 20 UTC I am with Italy on this one.
15 Dec 20 UTC Your turn, Edi.
16 Dec 20 UTC Bold of you to assume I've got my draw vote up, Yonni. I'm obviously waiting until we cut MM and Dejan and 2wd this.
16 Dec 20 UTC Good to know that I am second in your kill list :)
17 Dec 20 UTC No respect. Good thing I’m used to it.
17 Dec 20 UTC Good game everyone
17 Dec 20 UTC Huzzah. Good game everyone.
17 Dec 20 UTC Really was a pleasure. Thanks to everyone for playing.
17 Dec 20 UTC Lol! You're all mad. Thanks for playing.
17 Dec 20 UTC Well it was certainly a challenge! It was great to share the board with this group. Thanks for setting it up Yonni, and thanks everyone for the game.
17 Dec 20 UTC Good game and have a many more good games. :)
17 Dec 20 UTC Definitely don't need to do EOGs or anything but what were you playing at in the end there, MM? Did you want a 3WD? Seemed to be playing with fire a bit.
17 Dec 20 UTC I'm still confused about why no one soloed.
17 Dec 20 UTC I was going to but forgot to take my draw vote down.
17 Dec 20 UTC Is that like how you were "going to" wintergreen? ;)
17 Dec 20 UTC Precisely.

I'm rooting for you in G4 at least.
17 Dec 20 UTC The entire point was to play with the fire. I don’t make it to 1910 in every game, seemed like a golden opportunity to learn a few things, and sometimes we can learn the most by getting burnt. It isn’t whether you win or lose but how you play the game, I merely wanted to continue to play the game.

I once heard Edi Birsan say that he would “always” accept a draw if everyone else at the table wanted to draw, since this is a gentleman’s game, which is the situation I was facing. I’ve also shared a board with my buddy Babak where he was at 17 SCs, we had formed a grand alliance to stalemate him and everyone except Babak had visibly voted draw. Babak then posted on the global tab, “This game isn’t over until I say it’s over!” Clearly I’m on Edi’s half of that spectrum.
17 Dec 20 UTC I'm cool with either approach and definitely wouldn't have sent some pissy message after the game if you kept it going. It's your prerogative when to draw. I was legit getting nervous about you maybe pushing your luck and then Germany convoying Austria to Sweden or me doing something dumb in the south.
17 Dec 20 UTC If Dejan hadn't asked for a draw, what was your plan? Try for the 2WD?
17 Dec 20 UTC That’s hard to believe, you had already sent multiple pissy messages to me during the game! ;-)

A 2WD was never a goal or an option, from my perspective, if it had been mentioned it was only as a punchline. My plan was to attempt to figure something out, if you wanted to know more beyond that you should have kept playing. :-P

PS - Nobody’s ever called me a cockroach before, think I prefer the profanity-laced tirades, but I’m sort of on the fence about it...
17 Dec 20 UTC >That’s hard to believe, you had already sent multiple pissy messages to me during the game!

I mean, it was in the game. That's why I brought it up here post game when there's no ulterior motive.
17 Dec 20 UTC >I’ve also shared a board with my buddy Babak where he was at 17 SCs, we had formed a grand alliance to stalemate him and everyone except Babak had visibly voted draw. Babak then posted on the global tab, “This game isn’t over until I say it’s over!”<

I played with Babak and I still remember that game like it was yesterday. Babak is one of a kind.
18 Dec 20 UTC Ben, I thought you were going to stop debating it ; )
18 Dec 20 UTC LoL :)
18 Dec 20 UTC Dejan wrote a bunch so i had to >.>
18 Dec 20 UTC Haha, so what you meant was "stop debating so I can have the last word"? Gonna go far in your profession!
18 Dec 20 UTC I said I didnt want to debate you, Yonni, because I believed it would be mean-spirited and pointless.

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Austria
Dejan0707 (1608 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 9 D
12 supply-centers, 12 units
England
MadMarx (36299 D (G))
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 9 D
9 supply-centers, 9 units
Italy
Yonni (135 D (S))
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 9 D
7 supply-centers, 7 units
Germany
kgray (615 D Mod)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 9 D
6 supply-centers, 6 units
Turkey
swordsman3003 (13071 D (G))
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Russia
A_Tin_Can (2244 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
France
ben9990 (1333 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
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