Finished: 02 AM Tue 28 Jul 20 UTC
Gunboat Live!-78
5 minutes /phase
Pot: 70 D - Autumn, 1915, Finished
Classic, No messaging, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring, Hidden draw votes
0 excused missed turn
Game won by New England Fire Squad (3283 D (G))
27 Jul 20 UTC Spring, 1901: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
28 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
28 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1913: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
28 Jul 20 UTC GG's. Germany, you had the line secured. Why f around in France when I'm about to hit draw otherwise?
28 Jul 20 UTC Also, Austria, extremely well played.
28 Jul 20 UTC Idk
28 Jul 20 UTC Ty, busy rn will talk later
28 Jul 20 UTC That was F*'d up Germany. I just held. I was NOT going to let you eliminate me while I was holding the key to the stalemate.
28 Jul 20 UTC Italy! You ruined my fun in Portugal right at the end!

I want the record to reflect that the original France left the game before I was officially eliminated :P

Good win Turkey.
28 Jul 20 UTC I spazzed out. Sorry boys. Otherwise a good game.
Tip o the hat to Austria as well
28 Jul 20 UTC Yeah excellent game Austria.
28 Jul 20 UTC I'm sorry France. I realised it right as the clock ran out. Shame one me
28 Jul 20 UTC Italy I gotta say, your game really confused me as of 1910. The portgual move in 1913. And that dart to the mid Atlantic in autumn 1912. Those were unexpected
28 Jul 20 UTC I was attempting to acquire new territories from France when Turkey all of a sudden came after me which was unexpected to say the least.
28 Jul 20 UTC wait we lost? this wasnt a draw? lmao that's what i get for finishing this game on my phone, didnt see the ending just knew it was over so i figured we pulled it out

damn. now im sad
28 Jul 20 UTC Gonna write up some thoughts so I don't wallow in my sadness.

@Italy, you....I don't know what to say, other that it became clear in S03 that you were a new player so I kinda just ignored you and prayed you would do something. Your profile shows it's your second game, so hey, welcome to the site :) if you want to get better at gunboat and ally with Austria kill Turkey next time, wink wink, I bet anyone in this game would help you out.

But for god's sake, why not move ION to EAS in A06? It was wide open. Sigh.

@Turkey, always a pleasure to play with/against you. I think I messed up in A07, sending UKR to bounce SEV instead of sealing off GAL, but tbh that's a hard call in the moment. It would have forced that to disband which puts me in better position to context MOS/WAR, maybe? But anyway, excellent disband decisions in W07, really put me in a vice.

More realistically, I needed Germany to pop your army in LIV in S09. That not happening until S10 meant that I was resigned to being part of the stalemate line :) and hey @Germany, I won't dwell on you screwing up the draw, don't beat yourself up too much, and don't do it again. Or rather...stab in the fall next time.

I will say thank you for letting me rent Munich for a year. I was trying to let Russia back into WAR to help me fight Turkey so I took it to guarantee myself a build. But they just gave up instead :( @Russia, you gotta keep playing! You had a build and a chance if you moved to WAR or MOS, comrade.

@France, I'm not saying you were wrong to throw because of Germany's actions, but if you look at the board, I don't think Germany could kill you and still protect MAR in the following spring. Meaning that the correct play was actually to assume that Germany would retreat, and to still support hold MAR. Now, in the moment....I don't think I would have done that XD but hindsight is 20/20
28 Jul 20 UTC Because if Germany did anything to Burgundy, that would cut the support and lose MAR. Same with GAS. But if Germany *doesn't* take BUR or GAS in A15, then they have no way to defend MAR in the following spring like I said.

So actually there was no scenario where Germany could have eliminated you and not lost the game for everyone, unless Turkey didn't attack MAR with 3 power that turn for some reason. So technically the right play was to keep the faith and support hold MAR. Again, hindsight.
28 Jul 20 UTC @ Austria. I know he couldn't have taken Bur and Gas and retaken Mar. When I took over this anon game, I had no idea the level of play of any of the players. Needlessly antagonizing France with the Bre and Paris move was a noob move. Noobs don't always think rationally. Keeping the faith would have only prolonged the game by a year IF Germany had NOT backed out of Bre and Par. Why would Germany have gone for Bre and Par to begin with? Just know that I am a vindictive SOB. Send me the wrong message and I will throw the game. Just saying.
28 Jul 20 UTC It was a complete mental fart. And I thought italy was going to gibe marseille to turkey just like Naples and rome and Tunis and Venice...
Still I shouldn't have done it. If I had 10 more seconds to chance the orders I would have
28 Jul 20 UTC Next time we should have messaging, anonymous players, sum of squares scoring and no draw votes.
28 Jul 20 UTC .....XD

>Send me the wrong message
Totally fair *thumbs up*
28 Jul 20 UTC I can create a new live game either later on today or this evening.
28 Jul 20 UTC Feel free to join this new game: http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=314134

Start Backward Open large map Forward End

Turkey
Won. Bet: 10 D, won: 70 D
18 supply-centers, 17 units
Germany
Survived. Bet: 0 D
12 supply-centers, 12 units
France
The Czech (43126 D (S))
Survived. Bet: 0 D
2 supply-centers, 2 units
Austria
pyxxy (1013 D (G))
Survived. Bet: 10 D
2 supply-centers, 2 units
England
LuconousRex (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Italy
drfrazier (95 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Russia
yolo5 (69 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Civil Disorders
icyclaws (100 D)France (Autumn, 1913) with 3 centres.
paul1234 (100 D)Germany (Spring, 1901) with 3 centres.
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